Re: Blackend ligatures in mensural notation

2019-11-06 Thread karl
Hans Åberg:
> Typo: “accent” in Swedish is spelt the same. :-)

Ok, fixed.

Regards,
/Karl Hammar





Re: Blackend ligatures in mensural notation

2019-11-06 Thread Hans Åberg


> On 6 Nov 2019, at 21:20, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> 
> Christian:
>> I was wondering if it is possible to blacken single notes in ligatures in
>> white mensural notation - having the meaning of shorten the note length to
>> 3/4 of its value. I need this for an incipit in the following example:
> 
> Here is an old example:
> http://aspodata.se/noter/victoria/o_quam_gloriosum/motet/all.pdf

Typo: “accent” in Swedish is spelt the same. :-)





Re: Blackend ligatures in mensural notation

2019-11-06 Thread Christian Masser
Thank you, Karl!
I kind of like this workaround... feels a little bit like good old
handwriting.

Best regards
Christian

Am Mi., 6. Nov. 2019 um 21:21 Uhr schrieb :

> Christian:
> > I was wondering if it is possible to blacken single notes in ligatures in
> > white mensural notation - having the meaning of shorten the note length
> to
> > 3/4 of its value. I need this for an incipit in the following example:
>
>  Here is an old example:
> http://aspodata.se/noter/victoria/o_quam_gloriosum/motet/all.pdf
> http://aspodata.se/git/musik/TomasLuisdeVictoria/o_quam_gloriosum/motet/
>
> See page 7, mid second system, bassus, at "agnum", in the pdf.
> Line 61-63 in a.ly
>
> Hopefully there is better ways to do it today.
>
> Regards,
> /Karl Hammar
>
>
>


Re: Blackend ligatures in mensural notation

2019-11-06 Thread karl
Christian:
> I was wondering if it is possible to blacken single notes in ligatures in
> white mensural notation - having the meaning of shorten the note length to
> 3/4 of its value. I need this for an incipit in the following example:

 Here is an old example:
http://aspodata.se/noter/victoria/o_quam_gloriosum/motet/all.pdf
http://aspodata.se/git/musik/TomasLuisdeVictoria/o_quam_gloriosum/motet/

See page 7, mid second system, bassus, at "agnum", in the pdf.
Line 61-63 in a.ly

Hopefully there is better ways to do it today.

Regards,
/Karl Hammar




Re: MMR/Measure counter stencil

2019-11-06 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Ok, I got it:

\once\override Staff.MultiMeasureRestNumber.stencil = #(lambda (grob)
(grob-interpret-markup grob
  #{ \markup\concat\numberItalic { 2 7 }   #}))
\compressFullBarRests
  R8*12*27

Sorry for the noise.

Le mer. 6 nov. 2019 à 20:54, Pierre Perol-Schneider <
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> ... forgoten file enclosed.
> Cheers,
> Pierre
>
> Le mer. 6 nov. 2019 à 19:22, Pierre Perol-Schneider <
> pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Hi All,
>> I'm looking for a way to change the MMR counter stencil.
>> Precisely, I need to get those numbers in italic.
>> Herewith are pseudo italic numbers (italic-number.ily) and the tests:
>>
>> \version "2.19.83"
>>
>> \include "italicNumber.ily"
>>
>> %Test:
>> \layout { indent = 0 }
>>
>> \markuplist {
>>   \number "0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9"
>>   \vspace #.5
>>   \line \numberItalic { 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9}
>>   \vspace #.5
>>   \finger "0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9"
>>   \vspace #.5
>>   \line \fingerItalic { 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9}
>> }
>>
>> % In situ:
>> %% !! (since it's not a font, it sometimes required some alignment
>> adjustment) !!
>>
>> {
>>   \override Staff.ClefModifier.stencil =
>> #(lambda (grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob
>>   (markup #:scale (cons 0.5 0.5) (#:fing-it-eight
>>   \clef "G_8"
>>
>>   \once\override Staff.TimeSignature.stencil =
>> #(lambda (grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob
>>   #{
>> \markup {
>> \override #'(baseline-skip . 0)
>>   \column {
>> \concat { \numberItalic { 1 \hspace #-.2 2 }
>> }
>> \concat { \hspace #.3 \numberItalic "8" }
>>   }
>> } #}))
>>   \time 12/8
>>
>>   \override TupletNumber.stencil =
>> #(lambda (grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob
>>   (markup #:scale (cons 0.7 0.7)
>>(#:translate (cons -1 -1) (#:fing-it-three)
>>   \tuplet 3/2 { d8[ e f] }
>>
>>   a2.^\markup\fingerItalic "5" s2
>>
>>   %% Bad hack:
>>   \compressFullBarRests
>>   \tweak extra-offset #'(4.1 . -.4)
>>   \tweak layer #2
>>   \tempo\markup\concat { \whiteout\numberItalic { 2 7 } }
>>   R8*12*27
>> }
>>
>> Any idiea for a workaround for the last hack?
>> TIA, cheers,
>> Pierre
>>
>


Re: flats and sharps as symbols in a lyric text

2019-11-06 Thread David Wright
On Wed 06 Nov 2019 at 09:22:28 (+0100), Karsten Reincke wrote:
> Thanks for your comments and discussion. Very helpful!
> @saul: Sorry, for this silly additional question: How do I insert a unicode
> character (for example U+266D) in a lyric text, if I do not have a 
> corresponding
> font etc? Do you have eny example?

This depends on what system you're on and which editor you're typing
into. For example, in emacs you could type ^X 8 Return 266d Return
for ♭ (or you could type ^X 8 Return *flat Tab and it would open a
window with all the Unicode characters with 'flat' anywhere in
their name). Long-winded, but works for any character.

Alternatively, for those you use more frequently, you could define
Compose characters that work in X servers (~/.XCompose containing lines
like: "©"   copyright # COPYRIGHT SIGN), or ones
that work everywhere in Debian linux (/etc/console-setup/remap.inc
containing, for example, compose '#' 'b' to U+266d # '♭').

Or you could cut and paste from a screen containing a more well-endowed
font, or even from a systematic table of characters where the chars
are present but not displayed (if your cut/paste will work that way).

Other OSes and editors will have equivalent functions.

Cheers,
David.



Re: MMR/Measure counter stencil

2019-11-06 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
... forgoten file enclosed.
Cheers,
Pierre

Le mer. 6 nov. 2019 à 19:22, Pierre Perol-Schneider <
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Hi All,
> I'm looking for a way to change the MMR counter stencil.
> Precisely, I need to get those numbers in italic.
> Herewith are pseudo italic numbers (italic-number.ily) and the tests:
>
> \version "2.19.83"
>
> \include "italicNumber.ily"
>
> %Test:
> \layout { indent = 0 }
>
> \markuplist {
>   \number "0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9"
>   \vspace #.5
>   \line \numberItalic { 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9}
>   \vspace #.5
>   \finger "0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9"
>   \vspace #.5
>   \line \fingerItalic { 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9}
> }
>
> % In situ:
> %% !! (since it's not a font, it sometimes required some alignment
> adjustment) !!
>
> {
>   \override Staff.ClefModifier.stencil =
> #(lambda (grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob
>   (markup #:scale (cons 0.5 0.5) (#:fing-it-eight
>   \clef "G_8"
>
>   \once\override Staff.TimeSignature.stencil =
> #(lambda (grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob
>   #{
> \markup {
> \override #'(baseline-skip . 0)
>   \column {
> \concat { \numberItalic { 1 \hspace #-.2 2 } }
> \concat { \hspace #.3 \numberItalic "8" }
>   }
> } #}))
>   \time 12/8
>
>   \override TupletNumber.stencil =
> #(lambda (grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob
>   (markup #:scale (cons 0.7 0.7)
>(#:translate (cons -1 -1) (#:fing-it-three)
>   \tuplet 3/2 { d8[ e f] }
>
>   a2.^\markup\fingerItalic "5" s2
>
>   %% Bad hack:
>   \compressFullBarRests
>   \tweak extra-offset #'(4.1 . -.4)
>   \tweak layer #2
>   \tempo\markup\concat { \whiteout\numberItalic { 2 7 } }
>   R8*12*27
> }
>
> Any idiea for a workaround for the last hack?
> TIA, cheers,
> Pierre
>


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Re: flats and sharps as symbols in a lyric text

2019-11-06 Thread Saul Tobin
I haven't run into font limitations with Unicode accidentals. I use Compose
Key to make it easy to type them.

Saul

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 12:22 AM Karsten Reincke  wrote:

> Thanks for your comments and discussion. Very helpful!
> @saul: Sorry, for this silly additional question: How do I insert a unicode
> character (for example U+266D) in a lyric text, if I do not have a
> corresponding
> font etc? Do you have eny example?
>
> many thanks, again
> Karsten
>
> On Tue, 2019-11-05 at 15:53 -0800, Saul Tobin wrote:
> > I usually just type the accidental signs as Unicode characters. I find
> the
> > sizing and alignment works better than with the Lilypond markup commands.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2019, 3:32 PM Karsten Reincke 
> wrote:
> > > Dear friends;
> > >
> > > does anyone know how I could insert a (double) flat or a (double)
> sharp in a
> > > lyric
> > > text (or stanza or anywhe else) to comment a chord representation?
> > >
> > > Many thanks for your help
> > > Karsten
> > >
> > >
> --
>   Karsten Reincke/\/\   (+49|0) 170 / 927 78 57
>  Im Braungeröll 31   >oo<  mailto:k.rein...@fodina.de
> 60431 Frankfurt a.M.  \/http://www.fodina.de/kr/
>
>
>


MMR/Measure counter stencil

2019-11-06 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi All,
I'm looking for a way to change the MMR counter stencil.
Precisely, I need to get those numbers in italic.
Herewith are pseudo italic numbers (italic-number.ily) and the tests:

\version "2.19.83"

\include "italicNumber.ily"

%Test:
\layout { indent = 0 }

\markuplist {
  \number "0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9"
  \vspace #.5
  \line \numberItalic { 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9}
  \vspace #.5
  \finger "0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9"
  \vspace #.5
  \line \fingerItalic { 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9}
}

% In situ:
%% !! (since it's not a font, it sometimes required some alignment
adjustment) !!

{
  \override Staff.ClefModifier.stencil =
#(lambda (grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob
  (markup #:scale (cons 0.5 0.5) (#:fing-it-eight
  \clef "G_8"

  \once\override Staff.TimeSignature.stencil =
#(lambda (grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob
  #{
\markup {
\override #'(baseline-skip . 0)
  \column {
\concat { \numberItalic { 1 \hspace #-.2 2 } }
\concat { \hspace #.3 \numberItalic "8" }
  }
} #}))
  \time 12/8

  \override TupletNumber.stencil =
#(lambda (grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob
  (markup #:scale (cons 0.7 0.7)
   (#:translate (cons -1 -1) (#:fing-it-three)
  \tuplet 3/2 { d8[ e f] }

  a2.^\markup\fingerItalic "5" s2

  %% Bad hack:
  \compressFullBarRests
  \tweak extra-offset #'(4.1 . -.4)
  \tweak layer #2
  \tempo\markup\concat { \whiteout\numberItalic { 2 7 } }
  R8*12*27
}

Any idiea for a workaround for the last hack?
TIA, cheers,
Pierre


Blackend ligatures in mensural notation

2019-11-06 Thread Christian Masser
Hey folks!

I was wondering if it is possible to blacken single notes in ligatures in
white mensural notation - having the meaning of shorten the note length to
3/4 of its value. I need this for an incipit in the following example:

The g at the end of the ligature should be filled black, meaning as much as
stated in the second example.

\version "2.18.2"

\new MensuralVoice \relative c' {
\time 2/2
\[ e1 f g\breve a \] g4 f
}

\new Voice \relative c' {
\time 2/2
\hide Staff.BarLine
\[ e1 f g\breve a1. \] g4 f
}

Best regards
Christian


Re: 'Compressing' a 1 bar full bar rest

2019-11-06 Thread Jacques Menu
Thanks Malte and Jan-Peter!

JM


> Le 6 nov. 2019 à 09:47, Jan-Peter Voigt  a écrit :
> 
> Am 06.11.19 um 09:43 schrieb Malte Meyn:
>> 
>> 
>> Am 06.11.19 um 09:38 schrieb Jacques Menu:
>>> Hello folks,
>>> 
>>> I’d like to show that explicitly with a number, i.e. to have a ‘1’
>>> above measure 2 in this example:
>>> 
>>> \version "2.19.83"
>>> 
>>> {
>>>\time 4/4
>>>\compressFullBarRests
>>> 
>>>R1*2 |
>>>R1*1 |
>>>c' |
>>> }
>>> How can that be achieved?
>>> Thanks for your help!
>> 
>> \set restNumberThreshold = 0
>> 
> 
> I guess, this is not what you want, but for completeness:
> 
> \override MultiMeasureRest.expand-limit = 0
> 
> 
> 
> 




Re: Mark placement problem

2019-11-06 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello Pierre,

Thanks a lot, I hadn’t noticed the mark text was actually centered on the note 
head.

This users' list is great!

A nice day!

JM

> Le 6 nov. 2019 à 10:11, Pierre Perol-Schneider 
>  a écrit :
> 
> Hi Jacques,
> No it does not.
> Maybe:
> 
> {
>   \time 4/4
>   \compressFullBarRests
> 
>   R1*3 | 
> 
>   \tempo "Easy jazz Walz (Swing)"
>   \tweak self-alignment-X #LEFT
>   \mark "IV. SUN AND SNOW"
>   \numericTimeSignature \time 3/4
> 
>   R2.*10  \bar "||" |
> }
> 
> is what you're looking for?
> Cheers,
> Pierre
> 
> 
> Le mer. 6 nov. 2019 à 10:07, Jacques Menu  > a écrit :
> Hello folks,
> 
> Why does the mark appear upon the first measure instead of the fourth in this 
> example?
> 
> \version "2.19.83"
> 
> {
>   \time 4/4
>   \compressFullBarRests
> 
>   R1*3 | 
> 
>   \tempo "Easy jazz Walz (Swing)"
>   \mark "IV. SUN AND SNOW"
>   \numericTimeSignature \time 3/4
> 
>   R2.*10  \bar "||" |
> }
> 
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> 
> JM
> 



Re: Mark placement problem

2019-11-06 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Jacques,
No it does not.
Maybe:

{
  \time 4/4
  \compressFullBarRests

  R1*3 |

  \tempo "Easy jazz Walz (Swing)"
  \tweak self-alignment-X #LEFT
  \mark "IV. SUN AND SNOW"
  \numericTimeSignature \time 3/4

  R2.*10  \bar "||" |
}

is what you're looking for?
Cheers,
Pierre


Le mer. 6 nov. 2019 à 10:07, Jacques Menu  a écrit :

> Hello folks,
>
> Why does the mark appear upon the first measure instead of the fourth in
> this example?
>
> \version "2.19.83"
>
> {
>   \time 4/4
>   \compressFullBarRests
>
>   R1*3 |
>
>   \tempo "Easy jazz Walz (Swing)"
>   \mark "IV. SUN AND SNOW"
>   \numericTimeSignature \time 3/4
>
>   R2.*10  \bar "||" |
> }
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> JM
>
>


Mark placement problem

2019-11-06 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello folks,

Why does the mark appear upon the first measure instead of the fourth in this 
example?

\version "2.19.83"

{
  \time 4/4
  \compressFullBarRests

  R1*3 | 

  \tempo "Easy jazz Walz (Swing)"
  \mark "IV. SUN AND SNOW"
  \numericTimeSignature \time 3/4

  R2.*10  \bar "||" |
}


Thanks for your help!

JM



Re: 'Compressing' a 1 bar full bar rest

2019-11-06 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Am 06.11.19 um 09:43 schrieb Malte Meyn:
>
>
> Am 06.11.19 um 09:38 schrieb Jacques Menu:
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> I’d like to show that explicitly with a number, i.e. to have a ‘1’
>> above measure 2 in this example:
>>
>> \version "2.19.83"
>>
>> {
>>    \time 4/4
>>    \compressFullBarRests
>>
>>    R1*2 |
>>    R1*1 |
>>    c' |
>> }
>> How can that be achieved?
>> Thanks for your help!
>
> \set restNumberThreshold = 0
>

I guess, this is not what you want, but for completeness:

\override MultiMeasureRest.expand-limit = 0






Re: 'Compressing' a 1 bar full bar rest

2019-11-06 Thread Malte Meyn




Am 06.11.19 um 09:38 schrieb Jacques Menu:

Hello folks,

I’d like to show that explicitly with a number, i.e. to have a ‘1’ above 
measure 2 in this example:


\version "2.19.83"

{
   \time 4/4
   \compressFullBarRests

   R1*2 |
   R1*1 |
   c' |
}
How can that be achieved?
Thanks for your help!


\set restNumberThreshold = 0



'Compressing' a 1 bar full bar rest

2019-11-06 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello folks,

I’d like to show that explicitly with a number, i.e. to have a ‘1’ above 
measure 2 in this example:

\version "2.19.83"

{
  \time 4/4
  \compressFullBarRests
  
  R1*2 |
  R1*1 |
  c' |
}
  

How can that be achieved?
Thanks for your help!

JM



Re: flats and sharps as symbols in a lyric text

2019-11-06 Thread Karsten Reincke
Thanks for your comments and discussion. Very helpful!
@saul: Sorry, for this silly additional question: How do I insert a unicode
character (for example U+266D) in a lyric text, if I do not have a corresponding
font etc? Do you have eny example?

many thanks, again
Karsten

On Tue, 2019-11-05 at 15:53 -0800, Saul Tobin wrote:
> I usually just type the accidental signs as Unicode characters. I find the
> sizing and alignment works better than with the Lilypond markup commands.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2019, 3:32 PM Karsten Reincke  wrote:
> > Dear friends;
> > 
> > does anyone know how I could insert a (double) flat or a (double) sharp in a
> > lyric
> > text (or stanza or anywhe else) to comment a chord representation?
> > 
> > Many thanks for your help
> > Karsten
> > 
> > 
-- 
  Karsten Reincke/\/\   (+49|0) 170 / 927 78 57
 Im Braungeröll 31   >oo<  mailto:k.rein...@fodina.de
60431 Frankfurt a.M.  \/http://www.fodina.de/kr/