Re: is this a slashed grace?

[Kenneth Wolcott]

Hi David;

  It is amazingly sad that I read right past that warning.

Thanks,
Ken

On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 10:07 PM David Wright  wrote:
>
> Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> > >   I asked this question regarding a different piece that I was engraving. 
> > >  It looks like the slashed grace as shown in the Lilypond documentation 
> > > is not the same as what I have engraved (there is no slash).
> > >   Now another piece has come up with the same question.
> > >   Maybe these aren't slashed grace notes?  Maybe (as usual) I'm doing 
> > > something wrong?
> > >   My input, my engraving and the origin I'm reading from are attached.
>
> Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
> > > Are you referring to the ornaments is measures 3, 11, and 25?
>
> Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> > That's correct.
>
> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/special-rhythmic-concerns
>
> Scroll down to:
>
>   Known issues and warnings
>
>   A multi-note beamed acciaccatura is printed without a slash,
>   and looks exactly the same as a multi-note beamed appoggiatura.
>
> Cheers,
> David.

Re: is this a slashed grace?

[Werner LEMBERG]

>   A multi-note beamed acciaccatura is printed without a slash,
>   and looks exactly the same as a multi-note beamed appoggiatura.

And if you want to overcome this, look at

  https://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=721


 Werner

Re: is this a slashed grace?

[David Wright]

Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> >   I asked this question regarding a different piece that I was engraving.  
> > It looks like the slashed grace as shown in the Lilypond documentation is 
> > not the same as what I have engraved (there is no slash).
> >   Now another piece has come up with the same question.
> >   Maybe these aren't slashed grace notes?  Maybe (as usual) I'm doing 
> > something wrong?
> >   My input, my engraving and the origin I'm reading from are attached.

Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
> > Are you referring to the ornaments is measures 3, 11, and 25?

Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> That's correct.

https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/special-rhythmic-concerns

Scroll down to:

  Known issues and warnings

  A multi-note beamed acciaccatura is printed without a slash,
  and looks exactly the same as a multi-note beamed appoggiatura.

Cheers,
David.

Re: is this a slashed grace?

[Kenneth Wolcott]

That's correct.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 8:56 PM Mark Stephen Mrotek
 wrote:
>
> Kenneth,
>
> Are you referring to the ornaments is measures 3, 11, and 25?
>
>
>
> MArk
>
>
>
> From: lilypond-user 
> [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of 
> Kenneth Wolcott
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 7:58 PM
> To: Andrew Bernard 
> Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: is this a slashed grace?
>
>
>
> Hi Andrew;
>
>
>
>   I asked this question regarding a different piece that I was engraving.  It 
> looks like the slashed grace as shown in the Lilypond documentation is not 
> the same as what I have engraved (there is no slash).
>
>
>
>   Now another piece has come up with the same question.
>
>
>
>   Maybe these aren't slashed grace notes?  Maybe (as usual) I'm doing 
> something wrong?
>
>
>
>   My input, my engraving and the origin I'm reading from are attached.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ken Wolcott
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 8:44 PM Kenneth Wolcott  
> wrote:
>
> That's all I want to know, thanks!
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 8:36 PM Andrew Bernard  
> wrote:
>
> Yes.
>
> What is the problem?
>
> On 25/08/2022 12:35 pm, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> > Is this a slashed grace? See attached screenshot.
> >

RE: is this a slashed grace?

[Mark Stephen Mrotek]

Kenneth,

Are you referring to the ornaments is measures 3, 11, and 25?

 

MArk

 

From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] 
On Behalf Of Kenneth Wolcott
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 7:58 PM
To: Andrew Bernard 
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: is this a slashed grace?

 

Hi Andrew;

 

  I asked this question regarding a different piece that I was engraving.  It 
looks like the slashed grace as shown in the Lilypond documentation is not the 
same as what I have engraved (there is no slash).

 

  Now another piece has come up with the same question.

 

  Maybe these aren't slashed grace notes?  Maybe (as usual) I'm doing something 
wrong?

 

  My input, my engraving and the origin I'm reading from are attached.

 

Thanks,

Ken Wolcott

  

 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 8:44 PM Kenneth Wolcott mailto:kennethwolc...@gmail.com> > wrote:

That's all I want to know, thanks!

 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 8:36 PM Andrew Bernard mailto:andrew.bern...@mailbox.org> > wrote:

Yes.

What is the problem?

On 25/08/2022 12:35 pm, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> Is this a slashed grace? See attached screenshot.
>

Re: How to enlarge the entire Lilypond output (pdf)

[David Wright]

On Thu 15 Sep 2022 at 16:50:30 (-0700), Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> 
>   Perhaps I'm not searching the Lilypond documentation wisely, but I do not
> see a way to enlarge the entire Lilypond output in scale (staff, notes,
> text, everything).

Everything? including the paper?

>   Perhaps I have to modify the pdf itself?  If so, does that decrease the
> clarity/precision of the presentation?

Yes, if you want to make the music larger on each page, with
fewer measures/line and lines/page, and using more pages.

#(set-global-staff-size 20.0)   is the default. Increase or
decrease accordingly.

>   I'd like to control this globally, and, preferably, externally.

Oh, scratch the previous paragraph. Just find a viewer that's
able to increase and decrease the magnification. (Don't they all?)

>   My wife is trying to use the Lilypond pdf that I generate on her iPad and
> sometimes she tries to resize (enlarge) it and that fails.

That suggests that it's not obvious how you should be controlling
your viewer. Tyically, you'd put your fingers on the screen and
slide them apart to expand the display, or you'd select
magnification factors from a menu (or, as I do, have predefined
keystrokes, 0–9, z, h, w, that set preferred magnifications,
100–2000%, fit to page, height, or width).

So it depends on which you and your wife want.

Cheers,
David.

Re: How to enlarge the entire Lilypond output (pdf)

[Kenneth Wolcott]

Hi Knute;

  Thank you. It may seem obvious but I wasn't sure if that would also
change the notes and other aspects as well.

  I will experiment with this and see if she likes the new output better.

Thanks,
Ken

On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 5:03 PM Knute Snortum  wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 4:50 PM Kenneth Wolcott
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hi;
> >
> >   Perhaps I'm not searching the Lilypond documentation wisely, but I do
> not see a way to enlarge the entire Lilypond output in scale (staff, notes,
> text, everything).
> >
> >   Perhaps I have to modify the pdf itself?  If so, does that decrease
> the clarity/precision of the presentation?
> >
> >   I'd like to control this globally, and, preferably, externally.
> >
> >   My wife is trying to use the Lilypond pdf that I generate on her iPad
> and sometimes she tries to resize (enlarge) it and that fails.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ken
>
> I think you can do this by manipulating the staff size:
>
>
> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/notation/setting-the-staff-size
>

Re: How to enlarge the entire Lilypond output (pdf)

[Knute Snortum]

On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 4:50 PM Kenneth Wolcott
 wrote:
>
> Hi;
>
>   Perhaps I'm not searching the Lilypond documentation wisely, but I do not 
> see a way to enlarge the entire Lilypond output in scale (staff, notes, text, 
> everything).
>
>   Perhaps I have to modify the pdf itself?  If so, does that decrease the 
> clarity/precision of the presentation?
>
>   I'd like to control this globally, and, preferably, externally.
>
>   My wife is trying to use the Lilypond pdf that I generate on her iPad and 
> sometimes she tries to resize (enlarge) it and that fails.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken

I think you can do this by manipulating the staff size:

https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/notation/setting-the-staff-size

How to enlarge the entire Lilypond output (pdf)

[Kenneth Wolcott]

Hi;

  Perhaps I'm not searching the Lilypond documentation wisely, but I do not
see a way to enlarge the entire Lilypond output in scale (staff, notes,
text, everything).

  Perhaps I have to modify the pdf itself?  If so, does that decrease the
clarity/precision of the presentation?

  I'd like to control this globally, and, preferably, externally.

  My wife is trying to use the Lilypond pdf that I generate on her iPad and
sometimes she tries to resize (enlarge) it and that fails.

Thanks,
Ken

Re: convert.ly errors

[David Kastrup]

Jean Abou Samra  writes:

> Le 14/09/2022 à 19:47, Jean Louis Thiry a écrit :
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> When using convert.ly  (\version “2.23.12”)
>> everything is fine as I do not work on complex scores.
>> But if I compile a 2.19.81 file, for example, converted into 2.23.12
>> everything goes well except for a few errors (always the same) which
>> seem to have been overlooked by convert-ly during the conversion.
>> In the case of my old files which compile well with 2.18.2 or 2.19.81,
>> \override ChordName #'font-series = #’bold
>
> Well, the new syntax has been around for a long time (2012).
> convert-ly did have a conversion rule, but in the version where
> the change was done, not in the version where the old syntax was
> made to actively emit a deprecation warning. It will change
> your override syntax if you run it as
>
> convert-ly --from=2.17.5 --to=2.17.6 ...
>
> David, do you think it would be reasonable to put the same
> convert-ly rule again for 2.23.11?

If I remember correctly, the rule was somewhat icky.  Also I think the
rule was (re-)added on a more permanent basis to convert-ly quite after
the actual conversion.

Given how long it took to put in the deprecation warning and how long
older code may have get dragged along, there might be a point in adding
the conversion again in the corresponding version where the warning got
added.  However, one should check how conservative the rule is before
adding it again: we don't want accidents to happen to working code.

-- 
David Kastrup

Re: convert.ly errors

[Jean Louis Thiry]

Thank you, when needed I’ll simply change the version number to 2.17.5 before 
using convert.ly  and it woks fine. 
I must say that I was mostly curious to understand how things are done.
JLouis