get anything to happen.
So what did you try? And what manual did you consult? What did the
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CSA: EUR 3 million
Call:
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line (the
kind that would not have been tied at all in Renessaince music), maybe.
If a choir or orchestra is given instructions "start from measure x",
and measure x starts with a long tied note in one voice, that voice will
usually be expected to join the harmony.
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> /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/ly/articulate.ly:446:13:
> Wrong number of arguments to #
> Exited with return code 1.
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nceivable that the "proper" incantation would use Timing instead
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Martin Tarenskeen writes:
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2013, David Kastrup wrote:
>
>> wjm writes:
>>> +++
>>> I found the program DiceWaltz interesting and amusing. Many thanks!
>>> However, when I open the generated file in Frescobaldi and run it, to
>>
pyleft should extend
> so far as the .ly files of scores created by users, but as things
> stand I'm concerned that this may be the strict letter of the
> licensing.
I don't see that, short of _actual_ inclusion of english.ly etc.
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middle of the "unshifted" octave.
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I guess) has a rather more tricky convert-ly rule which
changes almost everything to the new \relative { ... } form. I'll try
to give a way to use optional convert-ly rules (so that users may call
this converter on their own if they want to), but that is likely going
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rived work (whether linking
statically or dynamically), potentially via contributory infringement,
thus forming a fundamental difference between LGPL and GPL. I find that
somewhat audacious, but short of actually decisive court precedents,
most people (and corporations) prefer not putting this theory to the
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A separate process is a pretty solid boundary unless you actually use
some debug interface for meddling with the internals, or if you have
something like a Scheme interpreter which you severely redefine via an
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Joseph Rushton Wakeling writes:
> On 04/02/2013 08:53 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
>> LilyPond is a GNU program and so follows the licensing policies of the
>> GNU project.
>
> Sure, but I don't see that this prevents you from making a permissive
> licensing choice fo
footnote spacing as well, and
the user has no control over which footnote on a page will be the
topmost one: pagebreaking makes that decision.
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Joseph Rushton Wakeling writes:
> Anyway, I would really appreciate your input on whether (and what) to
> write to the Software Freedom Law Center.
Since I can't share your concerns, I can't give you any advice what to
ask the SFLC in order to address them. That's quite
uently.
> ought to be a warning sign.
Are you sure you are not getting carried away with a self-made view of
the situation?
Feel free to ask the SFLC, but I don't see the point in trying to spin
this out of proportion before even doing so.
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Better get someone with GPL experience. The concept of a _license_
_granting_ permissions rather than a _contract_ _restricting_ normal
rights associated with a media purchase is pretty alien to most
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Anthonys Lists writes:
> On 02/04/2013 22:31, David Kastrup wrote:
>> Anthonys Lists writes:
>>
>>> Indeed, this legal claim (that using functions creates a derivative
>>> work) is exactly the claim that Oracle tried with Android and Java,
>>> and they
e (such asthe GPL), the burden of proof that he had license
to do as he did lies with the user of software.
That's quite a different playing ground.
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Anthonys Lists writes:
> On 02/04/2013 23:46, David Kastrup wrote:
>> That wasn't what the lawsuit was about. It was not even what Oracle
>> claimed the lawsuit to be about. The issue was the reimplementation of
>> Java classes, not the_use_ of Java classes.
> Yes
de to ##t because merely \revert-ing did
> not cause time signatures to reappear after that point.)
You can try \temporary\override ... \revert instead for versions of
2.17.6 or greater.
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David Kastrup writes:
> James Harkins writes:
>
>> It seems that if I write:
>>
>> \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
>>
>> ... there's no problem. But this:
>>
>> \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##t
>
ge.
>
> that's fabulous!
> don't know why I always thought you can only produce one line/system with
> \markup \score …
Regarding the "you can't have LilyPond figure out page breaking" angle:
maybe http://cod
ing a score using \markup \score.
Use baseline-skip to set space between systems.
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#(define-event-function (parser location) () #{
> ^"rit." \pp
> #})
> { \tempo 4=50 c'4 e'4 \rit g'2 }
>
> event.ly:3:10: error: syntax error, unexpected EVENT_IDENTIFIER,
> expecting $end ^"rit."
>
Thomas Morley writes:
> 2013/4/4 David Kastrup :
>
>>
>> Regarding the "you can't have LilyPond figure out page breaking" angle:
>> maybe http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1334> is a
>> suitable building block for that.
>>
Thomas Morley writes:
> 2013/4/5 David Kastrup :
>> Thomas Morley writes:
>>
>>> 2013/4/4 David Kastrup :
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the "you can't have LilyPond figure out page breaking" angle:
>>>> maybe http:/
Thomas Morley writes:
> 2013/4/5 Thomas Morley :
>> 2013/4/5 David Kastrup :
>>> Thomas Morley writes:
>>>
>>>> 2013/4/4 David Kastrup :
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding the "you can't have LilyPond figure out
:
\override #'(font-name . "Plantin MT Std") { John Goss (1800 - 1880) }
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ch _might_ work reasonably with some of git's packing
techniques.
Packing actual executables could possibly also work with reasonable
overhead.
There would be an advantage to a repository storing _complete_ compiled
versions of LilyPond: it wo
"completely broken") any more.
Something like
echo xpdf hold|sudo dpkg --set-selections
Yes, this is stupid. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
I think I also saw some recipe for getting evince to work with
point&click when doing a web search, but it involved meddling with the
gconf confi
Orm Finnendahl writes:
> Am Sonntag, den 07. April 2013 um 09:43:30 Uhr (+0200) schrieb David
> Kastrup:
>>
>> I think I also saw some recipe for getting evince to work with
>> point&click when doing a web search, but it involved meddling with the
>> gconf
le\tieUp ~
and similar in newer versions of 2.17, just using ^ and _ for individual
tie directions seems quite easier.
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Janek Warchoł writes:
> 2013/4/7 David Kastrup :
>> Joseph Rushton Wakeling writes:
>>
>>> On 04/06/2013 10:50 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote:
>>>> The things is, use git for tracking source files, not pdfs. If you
>>>> put \version statements in all yo
then you might as
> well just have a set of directories: build_2_16_0, build_2_17_10 etc.
It's not like you couldn't do diff on directories, too... That's not
the only use of a repo.
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\new Staff { $(skip-of-length mybass) }
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ce my
> question: is there work going on on musicxml2ly, and if so, can I
> contribute to it?
Wouldn't it be even more important to contribute to it if there was _no_
work going on on musicxml2ly?
Currently there is not much happening with it. The Philomelos guys have
their own fo
tive developers is mainly focused on their own projects. We have a
"bug squad" that tries to make sure that no contributions fall through
the cracks, but even if things are tracked in the issue tracker, at some
point of time somebody needs to pick them up.
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> @5 entries in all parts.
You lost me _way_ back.
> Of course I know that syntax changes shouldn't be taken lightly,
> though ...
There is nobody keeping you to put whatever editor-hinting comments into
your LilyPond source file using the existing comment
wer.
> Other rests might appear too low then, but I would like to know if I
> at least can try this out to see what’s best.
Version? Example file exhibiting the problem?
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Peter Crighton writes:
> 2013/4/9 David Kastrup
>>
>> Peter Crighton writes:
>>
>> > Hello there,
>> >
>> > would it be possible to attach rests in a TabVoice to a different
>> > line? At least whole and half rests look terribly vertical
"Phil Holmes" writes:
> From: "David Kastrup"
> To: "Peter Crighton"
> Cc: "LilyPond Mailing List"
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 3:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Rests in TabVoice
>
>>> Probably the ideal solution would be to have w
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Janek Warchoł writes:
> 2013/4/9 David Kastrup :
>> Urs Liska writes:
>>
>>> It seems this is Sibelius 7's default. See attached PNG.
>>
>> Huh? The perfectly rendered stafflines make it clear that this is not a
>> scanned image. But clef
a line than for
> rectangles.
>
> But it might just be that this SA thingie has to be set:
> <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2006-06/msg00275.html>
strokeadjust is useful when drawing lines which should show a give
the measurements as possible/practical. So if outputting a score at
> 72dpi for screen presentation, require that widths/positions/etc, be
> such so that they render cleanly.
>
> This is not as simple as it sounds, unfortunately.
So where is the p
ly
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have worked fine. convert-ly is _always_ the first thing to try
whenever something stops working in a newer version.
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Carl Peterson writes:
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:45 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
>
> Carl Peterson writes:
>
> > I'm not an expert on GhostScript, but in practice it is nearly
> always
> > best to rasterize vector graphics at the
to allow this, but the simplest fix is to
> change # to No.
Why aren't you enclosing strings in "..." ? That seems to make much
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gt;>
>>> # 427.} }
>>>
>>> This is a problem with the information in your file - the comments
>>> include a #, which is a reserved character for lilypond. I could add
>>> a feature to my converter to allow this, but the simplest fix is to
>&g
(ly:pitch-notename p)
(ly:pitch-alteration p
#t))
music)
music)
\chromaScale \relative c' { c des es fes ceses }
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gt; lilypond fitting the staves to the page as best as it sees fit or is there
> anyway i can cram it up closer to the notes?
Looks like you are doing something wrong. But then it's hard to tell
with the amount of information you are volunteering.
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If you use a program other than LilyPond for the actual typesetting,
people bring out the torches.
But Frescobaldi? That's good, very good.
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t spanned!
>> continuing, cross fingers
But those error messages are ludicrous and are not helpful for
pinpointing the problem. This (likely common) error condition should be
caught and given a useful error message.
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est is centered
> in the bar
>
> Learning Lilypond is easy at first but as your demands increase so
> does the difficulty - good luck on your journey.
>
> I have just about reached the edge of the woods
http://en.wikiped
ing Emacs, C-h i is just two keystrokes away. No need to reserve
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David Rogers writes:
> David Kastrup writes:
>
>> When using Emacs, C-h i is just two keystrokes away. No need to
>> reserve additional space for the info manual.
>
> You're right - I didn't think of that, because I didn't have Emacs
> when I starte
David Rogers writes:
> David Kastrup writes:
>
>> It would likely be worth it to have an Emacs window open just for
>> reading the documentation...
>
> (... Good point; I'll reserve a space for it on my desktop...) :)
Be sure to make yourself acquainted with info m
James Harkins < jamshar...@gmail.com> writes:
> David Kastrup gnu.org> writes:
>
>> When using Emacs, C-h i is just two keystrokes away.No need to reserve
>> additional space for the info manual.
>
> Because C-x b is the most fun in the world...
Uh, no? C-h i g
.05 (car
>> (first cps)) (cdr (first cps)) (car (second cps)) (cdr (second cps)))
>> cps)) (car (third cps)) (cdr (third cps))).
>>
>> this is with 2.16.2
>>
>> Richard Shann
>>
>>
> I can't tell this right now, but it may very well be th
>> does work - I feel stupid now, but I didn't try that because it seemed
>> to me that this case was a different type of syntax so I immediately
>> started trying to guess what the parallel syntax might be...
>
> :)
> This syntax was made possible by David Kastr
_line_break_engraver"
}
}
Or make sure that your note values amount for whole bars.
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Hanns Holger Rutz writes:
> On 17 Apr 2013, at 15:52, David Kastrup wrote:
>
>> Hanns Holger Rutz writes:
>>
>>> hi there,
>>>
>>> i'm trying to convert a sequence of time instants to a rhythmic
>>> score. This might look
, but nobody really cares
much any more.
At any rate: it integrates reasonably at the language level with
LilyPond. If you compare this to, say, the kind of integration Lua has
in LuaTeX (which is actually none to speak of at the language level),
this provides a quite more natural extension of LilyP
st statement in the function. It
checks whether ly:duration? is a duration and returns #f since it is
actually a function instead.
You do this several times. I'll look at the rest later.
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ype of a guy who wants to script everything that is done
>> more then once..I'd rather if it would be possible script physical
>> stuff too..
> That reminds me of my plan to have an issue tracker for my life ;-)
Org mode for Emacs – Your Life i
e an issue tracker for my life ;-)
> Oh, and I forgot the 'rebase -i' ...
With your brain being the SHA-40 of your history and the world
being the SHA-70
of its own history, you just need to find a hash collision matching a
d
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Urs Liska writes:
> Am Freitag, den 19.04.2013, 11:50 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup:
>> Urs Liska writes:
>>
>> >> > If not, would it be possible to highlight a changed note (or other
>> >> > item) with a color?
>> >>
>> >
works.
Hardly surprising. Wrong variable name. Even if you were write, the
define-public used nnn as a rest argument due to the . before it, so any
number would have gotten wrapped into a list.
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; page 1),
Why would you be using version 2.15.15? Documentation/out-www sounds
like a version you compiled yourself, and why compile yourself an
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n issue tracker for my life
>>
>> The English term for this is, "spouse."
>
> Does this mean I have married org-mode? And if I have, is that marriage
> recognized in all 50 states? (When will THAT case come before the Supreme
> Court?)
You bette
"good enough" to
start with. And if you are lazy like me, you won't invest much work of
your own beyond "good enough" into any individual score.
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problem is more the lack of an error message than anything else.
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spacing relative to the current
> settings?
> Like system-system-spacing #'basic-distance += #5 % note the +=
No. You'd have to use Scheme.
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the complete alist for every use, modifications are made by prepending
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> #(display (make-spacing 60 2 3 4))
> system-system-spacing = #(make-spacing 60 2 3 4)
Anything defined using define-scheme-function is not called from Scheme
but from LilyPond. It merely returns a Scheme value. So you use
system-system-spacing = \make-spacing 60 2 3 4
which is actua
16.2"
> {
> \tempo \markup \raise #3 { \column { "Line 1" "Line 2" } } 4 = 100
> c'1
> }
Probably safer to use
\version "2.16.1"
{
\tempo \markup { \override #`(direction . ,UP)
\dir-column { "Line 2" "Line 1&q
lain text formats allow to enter comments inside the
>
>
> I would write:
> Practically all plain text formats allow you to enter comments inside the
> or
> Practically all plain text formats allow one to enter comments inside the
> or
> Practically all pl
> }
Don't have an answer to your question, but it might be nice to know that
#(define afterGraceFraction (cons 15 16))
can be written as
afterGraceFraction = 15/16
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David Kastrup writes:
> Daniel Rosen writes:
>
>> In the example below, how can I adjust the space between the second
>> grace note and the barline? I'd like for the barline to be closer.
>>
>> \relative c'' {
>> #(define afterGraceFraction
> a2.\( [...]
>
> where
>
> mm =
> #(define-music-function
> (parser location tempotext)
> (string?)
>#{
> ^\markup { \bold $tempotext }
>#}
> )
Why not just write
\tempo "Allegro" 4 = 150
and have the default formatting?
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Uh, are we still talking about LilyPond?
> This would be very good to have as 'promotional material'
As would
Urs Liska writes:
> Am Montag, den 22.04.2013, 11:41 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup:
>> Urs Liska writes:
>>
>> >> > [...] MusicXML [...]
>> >>
>> >> indeed.
>> >> ;)
>> > I'd actually say it is crucial to have th
obs, so in this
case, the whole note with stem and notehead will get colored even though
just the notehead was tweaked. It is more cumbersome to pick out
further details, so this is left as an exercise to the reader.
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"Even when minimumFret is set, open strings are used whenever
possible. This behaviour can be changed by setting restrainOpenStrings
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{ \set \tmf = 7 }
But you are more likely angling for
tmf =
#(define-music-function (parser location fret) (index?)
#{ \set TabStaff.minimumFret = #fret #})
{ \tmf 5 }
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> Word with the resolution reasonably intact.
Why would you use Word here?
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being the default. It
> might be more useful in classical guitar music, I don’t know about
> that. But in rock/pop/jazz music I almost never would use open strings
> when playing in higher frets.
"Scarborough Fair", Simon and Garfunkle.
somehow, you'd have no idea when and
how and why it would blow up around your ears later.
"Add the missing pieces based on a printout" is not an option for binary
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Urs Liska writes:
> Am Montag, den 22.04.2013, 19:03 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup:
>>
>> You could redefine \tweak but it is probably more reliable to use
>> internals:
>>
>> > So would such a thing be possible, maybe in Scheme?
>> > Or if t
Christ van Willegen writes:
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Urs Liska wrote:
>> Am Montag, den 22.04.2013, 11:41 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup:
>>> Uh, are we still talking about LilyPond?
>> Maybe I wasn't clear enough, and maybe this should actually have been
Janek Warchoł writes:
> 2013/4/22 David Kastrup :
>
>> Reality check.
>>
>> _Nobody_ is writing a single line of code related to MusicXML.
>> Nobody is trying to see how much work it would be to consolidate some
>> of the MusicXML work from the Philomel
Urs Liska writes:
> please let me take most of your comment as acknowledged and allow me one
> further inquiry:
>
> Am Montag, den 22.04.2013, 12:30 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup:
>
>> Reality check.
>>
> ...
>
>> So moving LilyPond into a strategic p
Janek Warchoł writes:
> 2013/4/23 David Kastrup :
>> Janek Warchoł writes:
>>> Technically speaking, you are 100% correct. I agree that talking
>>> doesn't get the job done, and i understand the frustration when
>>> someone reminds you about an issue
Urs Liska writes:
> Am Dienstag, den 23.04.2013, 13:45 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup:
>> Selling LilyPond with vaporware MusicXML makes only sense if we want
>> to
>> hook people on LilyPond with the promise that they can take their
>> scores
>> into other produc
Klaus Föhl writes:
> David Kastrup writes:
>> Likely at best halfways. For example, no header is contained in the
>> hypothetical "music output stream". Things like \transpose don't make
>> it into the "music output stream" but rather just it
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