Re: Frescobaldi 3,.0 CRAHES

[Ralph Palmer]

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Simon Albrecht 
wrote:

> Hi Vincenzo,
>
> I haven’t been able to get any version of Frescobaldi working under Ubuntu
> 16.04, sadly. I made several attempts at fixing it, and there’s some
> information here: 
>
> Unfortunately, the dependencies seem to be terribly difficult to get
> right, at least under certain circumstances.
>
> Best, Simon


For what it's worth, I'm currently running Frescobaldi 2.18.1 under Ubuntu
16.04 LTS with no apparent problems. Perhaps an uninstall and reinstall
would help.

Ralph

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Re: Frescobaldi 3,.0 CRAHES

[Blöchl Bernhard]

What does "installed blindly" mean?

ubuntu studio? The actual version is 17.10, eventaully based in ubuntu 
17.10. I used that as well and tried hard to get frescobaldi 3.0.0 
installed, but never succeeded. That is true for other ubuntu blends 
based on versions older than 18.2.


May be it will do with actual (and correct) libraries in the correct 
python3 versions.


Regards


Am 08.12.2017 20:04, schrieb Son_V:

It's the second message on the same subject I post, but I don't see the
first, in case excuse me...
If I try to open a .ly file in Frescobaldi 3.0 (installed blindly as an
update) it (Frescobaldi) crashes in a breath.
What can I do? Thanks.



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Re: Frescobaldi 3,.0 CRAHES

[Urs Liska]

Hi Andrew,

my comments below are based on a very vague understanding of the issue, 
but maybe they are of help anyway (but please don't let them confuse you).



Am 08.12.2017 um 23:52 schrieb Andrew Bernard:

Hi Ben and All,

I have to run F 3 on Mint because I can't get the dependencies all 
lined up for Ubuntu 16.04. It's incredibly difficult, to the point 
that I had given up and I run a Mint VM just for F 3.


Now that others are also having problems, perhaps I will look into 
this again. As to what the differences in environment are between Mint 
and Ubuntu are that affect this, I just don't know. But I will find 
out for us all.


Typically (always?) the problem is the python-poppler-qt5 package. 
python-poppler-qt5 is a custom development by Wilbert Berendsen and 
provides the bindings to use the poppler library (for displaying PDF 
files) from Python and PyQt. Such bindings have to be compiled against 
the version of Qt that is actually installed on the system, which 
implies that upon *any* update to Qt the bindings have to be recompiled.


It seems this process isn't reliably performed in (some versions of?) 
Ubuntu, so I *assume* the problem is basically an issue for the Ubuntu 
package maintainer of python-poppler-qt5.




I wonder what platform F is developed on?


AFAIK there are several LInux flavours in use, and if I'm not mistaken 
also some Macs.
It's not that important because the failsafe solution is to compile the 
poppler bindings yourself (which of course guarantees that it works 
against the installed Qt version). However, I think this is nothing you 
should ask *users* for as a workaround because (IIRC) compiling this 
package was a rather involved process (you guess: getting the 
dependencies right ;-) ).


Urs



Andrew



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Re: Frescobaldi 3,.0 CRAHES

[Noeck]

Hi Ben,

> I'm not too familiar with Ubuntu's update path, but is it possible for
> you to upgrade to 17.04 - maybe the poppler issue has been resolved in
> later releases? Just an idea for testing. If you're not wanting to leave
> your older-but-stable OS, I totally understand.

With 17.04 I had to install an older python3-poppler-qt5 as described
above to solve the issue. But with 17.10 Frescobaldi works again out of
the box on my computer.

Cheers,
Joram

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Re: Frescobaldi 3,.0 CRAHES

[Ben]

On 12/8/2017 5:52 PM, Andrew Bernard wrote:

Hi Ben and All,

I have to run F 3 on Mint because I can't get the dependencies all 
lined up for Ubuntu 16.04. It's incredibly difficult, to the point 
that I had given up and I run a Mint VM just for F 3.


Now that others are also having problems, perhaps I will look into 
this again. As to what the differences in environment are between Mint 
and Ubuntu are that affect this, I just don't know. But I will find 
out for us all.


I wonder what platform F is developed on?

Andrew



I'm not too familiar with Ubuntu's update path, but is it possible for 
you to upgrade to 17.04 - maybe the poppler issue has been resolved in 
later releases? Just an idea for testing. If you're not wanting to leave 
your older-but-stable OS, I totally understand.



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Re: Frescobaldi 3,.0 CRAHES

[Noeck]

Cross reference in this thread:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2017-12/msg00187.html

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Re: Frescobaldi 3,.0 CRAHES

[Saul Tobin]

Possibly related, I've noticed that the 16.04 repository version of
Frescobaldi has been holding back python3-pyqt4 and python3-sip from
upgrading for several months.

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Andrew Bernard 
wrote:

> Hi Ben and All,
>
> I have to run F 3 on Mint because I can't get the dependencies all lined
> up for Ubuntu 16.04. It's incredibly difficult, to the point that I had
> given up and I run a Mint VM just for F 3.
>
> Now that others are also having problems, perhaps I will look into this
> again. As to what the differences in environment are between Mint and
> Ubuntu are that affect this, I just don't know. But I will find out for us
> all.
>
> I wonder what platform F is developed on?
>
> Andrew
>
>
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Re: Frescobaldi 3,.0 CRAHES

[Andrew Bernard]

Hi Ben and All,

I have to run F 3 on Mint because I can't get the dependencies all lined up
for Ubuntu 16.04. It's incredibly difficult, to the point that I had given
up and I run a Mint VM just for F 3.

Now that others are also having problems, perhaps I will look into this
again. As to what the differences in environment are between Mint and
Ubuntu are that affect this, I just don't know. But I will find out for us
all.

I wonder what platform F is developed on?

Andrew
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Re: Frescobaldi 3,.0 CRAHES

[Ben]

On 12/8/2017 4:59 PM, Simon Albrecht wrote:

Hi Vincenzo,

I haven’t been able to get any version of Frescobaldi working under 
Ubuntu 16.04, sadly. I made several attempts at fixing it, and there’s 
some information here: 



Unfortunately, the dependencies seem to be terribly difficult to get 
right, at least under certain circumstances.


Best, Simon


On 08.12.2017 20:04, Son_V wrote:

It's the second message on the same subject I post, but I don't see the
first, in case excuse me...
If I try to open a .ly file in Frescobaldi 3.0 (installed blindly as an
update) it (Frescobaldi) crashes in a breath.
What can I do? Thanks.



Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu and I have been successful in running 
Frescobaldi 3 for quite some time now on it without issue. I wonder why 
it would fail on Ubuntu and not it's derivatives.


Any guesses?


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Re: Frescobaldi 3,.0 CRAHES

[Simon Albrecht]

On 08.12.2017 20:04, Son_V wrote:

It's the second message on the same subject I post, but I don't see the
first, in case excuse me...


Both arrived, so please check in the online archives (they update about 
every half hour) before reposting your e-mail.

Best, Simon

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Re: Frescobaldi 3,.0 CRAHES

[Simon Albrecht]

Hi Vincenzo,

I haven’t been able to get any version of Frescobaldi working under 
Ubuntu 16.04, sadly. I made several attempts at fixing it, and there’s 
some information here: 



Unfortunately, the dependencies seem to be terribly difficult to get 
right, at least under certain circumstances.


Best, Simon


On 08.12.2017 20:04, Son_V wrote:

It's the second message on the same subject I post, but I don't see the
first, in case excuse me...
If I try to open a .ly file in Frescobaldi 3.0 (installed blindly as an
update) it (Frescobaldi) crashes in a breath.
What can I do? Thanks.



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Frescobaldi 3,.0 CRAHES

[Son_V]

It's the second message on the same subject I post, but I don't see the
first, in case excuse me...
If I try to open a .ly file in Frescobaldi 3.0 (installed blindly as an
update) it (Frescobaldi) crashes in a breath.
What can I do? Thanks.



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