Re: (de)cresendi syntax

2009-04-20 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Montag, 20. April 2009 05:31:20 Carl D. Sorensen wrote: On 4/17/09 11:02 AM, Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 17. April 2009 schrieb Frédéric Bron: Hmm, no you

Re: (de)cresendi syntax

2009-04-19 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/17/09 11:02 AM, Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 17. April 2009 schrieb Frédéric Bron: Hmm, no you are right. It seems that when using a music-function, the scheme expression is: (make-music

Re: (de)cresendi syntax

2009-04-11 Thread MonAmiPierrot
...it's a dirty job but... the italian term crescendo is not a noun, is a gerund (meaning raising, growing), so, when substantivated, in italian language, is indeclinable - thus if I amo il crescendo rossiniano, I still amo tutti i crescendo rossiniani (if you find an italian who says crescendi,

Re: (de)cresendi syntax

2009-04-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
In an english context, the plural is simple: crescendoes. Ouch. I would use `crescendos'. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: (de)cresendi syntax

2009-04-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner LEMBERG wrote Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:35 AM In an english context, the plural is simple: crescendoes. Ouch. I would use `crescendos'. To be pedantic, if crescendo is not a noun there is no plural, even in English. It should always be written as crescendo markings or

RE: (de)cresendi syntax

2009-04-11 Thread Piero Faustini
All of this, of course, to avoid answering Werner's question... that's REAL pedantery ;) To be pedantic, if crescendo is not a noun there is no _ Quante ne sai? Scoprilo con CrossWire!

Re: (de)cresendi syntax

2009-04-11 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 10:40:24AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: Werner LEMBERG wrote Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:35 AM In an english context, the plural is simple: crescendoes. Ouch. I would use `crescendos'. To be pedantic, if crescendo is not a noun there is no plural, even in

(de)cresendi syntax

2009-04-11 Thread Piero Faustini
recognising the original Italian from is adjectival. thus sorry for them, but it is WRONG at all. This is plain english syntax rules roughly applied to a foreign language: in english you can say both the sun keeps raising and the raising sun.But in italian, gerund is never usable as

Re: (de)cresendi syntax

2009-04-11 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message bay104-w21929b6c307f2affd1ac08b5...@phx.gbl, Piero Faustini pierofaust...@hotmail.com writes .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.EC_hmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} recognising the original Italian from is adjectival. thus sorry for

Re: (de)cresendi syntax

2009-04-10 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
On Sonntag, 22. Februar 2009 09:25:57 Frédéric Bron wrote: I am in charge of the question of (de)crescendo syntax issue in 2.12.2. Okay, sorry if I'm working on the same issue as you now, but I simply got too frustrated with hundreds of pages of old scores suddenly changing cresc/hairpin

Re: (de)cresendi syntax

2009-04-10 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 4/10/09 5:54 PM, Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com wrote: On Sonntag, 22. Februar 2009 09:25:57 Frédéric Bron wrote: I am in charge of the question of (de)crescendo syntax issue in 2.12.2. Okay, sorry if I'm working on the same issue as you now, but I simply got too frustrated

Re: (de)cresendi syntax

2009-04-10 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 01:54:22AM +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: I know that it is not possible to implement this only with scheme and lily code but I am sure it is possible in C++. Yes, some simple lines of C++ were required. Attached is a sample file to show how the definition of

Re: (de)cresendi syntax

2009-03-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:41:36AM +0100, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Graham Percival wrote: I'm not sure why we have both \cr and \. If the two really are equivalent, one ought to be deprecated before it is ultimately removed. I have a vague notion that \cr *was* deprecated. No! If you

Re: (de)cresendi syntax

2009-03-17 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Graham Percival wrote: I'm not sure why we have both \cr and \. If the two really are equivalent, one ought to be deprecated before it is ultimately removed. I have a vague notion that \cr *was* deprecated. No! If you look in ly/spanners-init.ly, you will see that \cr is used

Re: (de)cresendi syntax

2009-03-16 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 06:37:50PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: - \cresc, \dim, \decr, \decresc produce a text without spanner, applies only once to the previous note, no need to finish with \! or \endcresc, this could be implemented with a \markup command I don't like the idea of

Re: (de)cresendi syntax

2009-03-16 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 06:37:50PM -0700, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: - \cresc, \dim, \decr, \decresc produce a text without spanner, applies only once to the previous note, no need to finish with \! or \endcresc, this could be implemented with

(de)cresendi syntax

2009-02-22 Thread Frédéric Bron
Hello, I am in charge of the question of (de)crescendo syntax issue in 2.12.2. Here is what lilypond 2.12.2 currently does (in ly/spanners-init.ly): - \ and \cr are equivalent: they start a crescendo event on the previous note: #(make-span-event 'CrescendoEvent START) - \ and \decr are

Re: (de)cresendi syntax

2009-02-22 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 09:25:57AM +0100, Frédéric Bron wrote: Hello, Here are my dreams: - \, \, \! are used to start/stop (de)crescendo spanner (hairpin or text), - crescTextXXX, dimTextXXX, crescHairpin, dimHairpin decide if \, \, \! produce text or hairpin (applies for ever until

Re: (de)cresendi syntax

2009-02-22 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
Frederic, I have made some comments in your message below. Thanks for taking on this project. This type of proposal probably should go to lilypond-devel, rather than -user, so I'm cross-posting to -devel. On 2/22/09 1:25 AM, Frédéric Bron frederic.b...@m4x.org wrote: Hello, I am in