Re: Adding a quote to lyrics
Op Thu, 9 Sep 2021 17:46:13 -0400 Kira Garvie schreef: > Hello all, > I am typing the lyrics to a hymn, and it has the line: The cry “To > arms!” is heard afar and near. How do I do those quotations without > Frescobaldi thinking it’s a string of code? Also I am the newbie-est > of newbies with coding and this program here so please be gentle and > very specific! Thank you!! As Karlin wrote, you can use Ctrl+' and Ctrl+" to get those, they are snippets in the Snippets menu. And there is a tool in Tools→Programming→Special Characters, under General Punctuation there are many special quotes which can be clicked on to enter them in your LilyPond source. Good luck! -- Wilbert Berendsen (www.wilbertberendsen.nl)
Re: Adding a quote to lyrics
On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 1:34 AM Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote: > > > > The one thing that changed my computer life as a > > French speaker trying to type ÉÀŒÇ is a Compose key. > > ... and now you changed my life as well :-). > > Thanks much! I do not know how often I had to look up ♯,♮,♭ and > especially ①②③④⑤⑥⑦⑧ (these come up all the time in some forms of theory > of harmony). On Ubuntu (20.04 at least), the Compose key is activated only when the Tweaks package is installed. See: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/tips-specialchars.html.en -- Knute Snortum
Re: Adding a quote to lyrics
The one thing that changed my computer life as a French speaker trying to type ÉÀŒÇ is a Compose key. ... and now you changed my life as well :-). Thanks much! I do not know how often I had to look up ♯,♮,♭ and especially ①②③④⑤⑥⑦⑧ (these come up all the time in some forms of theory of harmony). Lukas
Re: Adding a quote to lyrics
On Sun 12 Sep 2021 at 23:07:35 (+0200), David Kastrup wrote: > Jean Abou Samra writes: > > Le 12/09/2021 à 02:32, Kira Garvie a écrit : > >> Following up on this question from thursday, how do I insert the > >> curly quotes? I copied them from your email but would like to know > >> how to do them myself! > > > > The one thing that changed my computer life as a > > French speaker trying to type ÉÀŒÇ is a Compose key. > > The concept is simple: press Compose, then some > > sequence of characters that is recognized as an input > > method for a special character. This is much easier > > to remember than Unicode code points. Absolutely. This is straightforward in X windows, eg Debian uses the files /etc/console-setup/remap.inc (for this and other facilities in consoles and X) and ~/.XCompose (for X alone). It might be worth consulting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key on other platforms, unless people here have better suggestions. > > Examples: [ … ] Yes, and I cut and paste a lot of mine from the rather comprehensive https://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib/libX11/plain/nls/en_US.UTF-8/Compose.pre though I have a few extras of my own. > Not to mention: > > Compose # # → ♯ > Compose # b → ♭ > Compose # f → ♮ > > Unfortunately I don't see combinations for double accidentals or a lot > of other musical symbols on my computer. But those already help a lot. I just make them up. Examples from my ~/.XCompose are: : "턫" U1d12b # MUSICAL SYMBOL DOUBLE FLAT : "턪" U1d12a # MUSICAL SYMBOL DOUBLE SHARP : "‿" U203f # UNDERTIE : "✄" U2704 # WHITE SCISSORS One limitation is that triple combinations (like the double accidentals here) don't work in remap.inc (ie, on the console), so I'd have to define double combinations if I wanted to type such characters there. However, I really only do system maintenance outside X windows. Cheers, David.
Re: Adding a quote to lyrics
Oooh thank you! ~Kira On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 7:54 PM Karlin High wrote: > On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 7:32 PM Kira Garvie wrote: > > how do I insert the curly quotes? > > If you are using Frescobaldi: > > Ctrl + ' = ‘’ > Ctrl + Shift + " = “” > > The “curly” typographical quotes will be inserted as a pair. If text > is highlighted first, there will be on each side of the highlighted > passage. > -- > Karlin High > Missouri, USA >
Re: Adding a quote to lyrics
On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 7:32 PM Kira Garvie wrote: > how do I insert the curly quotes? If you are using Frescobaldi: Ctrl + ' = ‘’ Ctrl + Shift + " = “” The “curly” typographical quotes will be inserted as a pair. If text is highlighted first, there will be on each side of the highlighted passage. -- Karlin High Missouri, USA
Re: Adding a quote to lyrics
Jean Abou Samra writes: > Le 12/09/2021 à 02:32, Kira Garvie a écrit : >> Following up on this question from thursday, how do I insert the >> curly quotes? I copied them from your email but would like to know >> how to do them myself! > > The one thing that changed my computer life as a > French speaker trying to type ÉÀŒÇ is a Compose key. > The concept is simple: press Compose, then some > sequence of characters that is recognized as an input > method for a special character. This is much easier > to remember than Unicode code points. Examples: > > Compose < " → “ > Compose > " → ” > Compose - > → → > Compose = e → € > Compose o c → © > Compose / = → ≠ > Compose / o → ø > Compose ' e → é > Compose o e → œ > Compose o A → Å > Compose ~ n → ñ > Compose , C → Ç > Compose - : → ÷ > Compose < < → « > Compose > > → » > Compose space space → non-breakable space > > How to configure it depends on your system. In my > experience, it is an extraordinary time saver. > Enjoy Not to mention: Compose # # → ♯ Compose # b → ♭ Compose # f → ♮ Unfortunately I don't see combinations for double accidentals or a lot of other musical symbols on my computer. But those already help a lot. -- David Kastrup
Re: Adding a quote to lyrics
Le 12/09/2021 à 02:32, Kira Garvie a écrit : Following up on this question from thursday, how do I insert the curly quotes? I copied them from your email but would like to know how to do them myself! The one thing that changed my computer life as a French speaker trying to type ÉÀŒÇ is a Compose key. The concept is simple: press Compose, then some sequence of characters that is recognized as an input method for a special character. This is much easier to remember than Unicode code points. Examples: Compose < " → “ Compose > " → ” Compose - > → → Compose = e → € Compose o c → © Compose / = → ≠ Compose / o → ø Compose ' e → é Compose o e → œ Compose o A → Å Compose ~ n → ñ Compose , C → Ç Compose - : → ÷ Compose < < → « Compose > > → » Compose space space → non-breakable space How to configure it depends on your system. In my experience, it is an extraordinary time saver. Enjoy Jean
Re: Adding a quote to lyrics
I use WizKey to type accents and a great many special characters including curly quotes: https://antibody-software.com/wizkey/ Sadly it's not free, though. Paul On 12/09/2021 06:18:17, "Aaron Hill" wrote: >On 2021-09-11 5:32 pm, Kira Garvie wrote: >>Following up on this question from thursday, how do I insert the curly >>quotes? I copied them from your email but would like to know how to do them >>myself. > >>
Re: Adding a quote to lyrics
On 2021-09-12 2:32 am, Kira Garvie wrote: (Anyone who types “blessèd” that much probably works in a similar line of work to me - that word sounds funny to me with just one syllable now! I am a church organist/ music director.)! Similar role, indeed. Though in my case, I am just filling the position while we are looking for a full-time replacement for our previous director. Unfortunately, it seems there are fewer folks entering the music ministry these days, and the pandemic certainly has not been helping. -- Aaron Hill
Re: Adding a quote to lyrics
Thank you Aaron!! (Anyone who types “blessèd” that much probably works in a similar line of work to me - that word sounds funny to me with just one syllable now! I am a church organist/ music director.)! On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 1:18 AM Aaron Hill wrote: > On 2021-09-11 5:32 pm, Kira Garvie wrote: > > Following up on this question from thursday, how do I insert the curly > > quotes? I copied them from your email but would like to know how to do > > them > > myself! > > If you are running Windows, you hold down ALT, type a series of numbers > on the numpad, and then release ALT to input the specified character. > For instance, here are the codes for double quotation marks: > > ALT+0147 → “ (Left double quotation mark) > ALT+0148 → ” (Right double quotation mark) > > There are tables of codes online, but you can also use the Character Map > (charmap.exe) program. Find and select a character, and the status bar > will list its Alt+Numpad code if supported. Keep a cheat sheet nearby > with the ones you use most often; though it should not take long before > muscle memory takes over. In my work, I type "blessèd" enough that I > have ALT+0232 memorized. > > > -- Aaron Hill >
Re: Adding a quote to lyrics
On 2021-09-11 5:32 pm, Kira Garvie wrote: Following up on this question from thursday, how do I insert the curly quotes? I copied them from your email but would like to know how to do them myself! If you are running Windows, you hold down ALT, type a series of numbers on the numpad, and then release ALT to input the specified character. For instance, here are the codes for double quotation marks: ALT+0147 → “ (Left double quotation mark) ALT+0148 → ” (Right double quotation mark) There are tables of codes online, but you can also use the Character Map (charmap.exe) program. Find and select a character, and the status bar will list its Alt+Numpad code if supported. Keep a cheat sheet nearby with the ones you use most often; though it should not take long before muscle memory takes over. In my work, I type "blessèd" enough that I have ALT+0232 memorized. -- Aaron Hill
Re: Adding a quote to lyrics
Following up on this question from thursday, how do I insert the curly
quotes? I copied them from your email but would like to know how to do them
myself!
On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 6:09 PM Kira Garvie wrote:
> Thank you, Jean! The first option with the backslashes worked perfectly.
>
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 6:02 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote:
>
>> Le 09/09/2021 à 23:46, Kira Garvie a écrit :
>> > Hello all,
>> > I am typing the lyrics to a hymn, and it has the line: The cry “To
>> > arms!” is heard afar and near. How do I do those quotations without
>> > Frescobaldi thinking it’s a string of code? Also I am the newbie-est
>> > of newbies with coding and this program here so please be gentle and
>> > very specific! Thank you!!
>> > Best,
>> > Kira
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I assume your problem is about something like this:
>>
>> \version "2.22.1"
>>
>> { c'1 c' }
>> \addlyrics { "To arms" }
>>
>> where you want the quotes to appear as part of the
>> words "To" and "arms". In the example shown above,
>> they group the two words together, making them a
>> single syllable (see [1]).
>>
>> To add these quote marks,
>> - enclose each word in quotes, to enable a parsing mode
>>that has string-specific features,
>> - add a backslash before the quotes you want to include
>>literally, to 'escape' them so that they will be
>>treated as part of the string without ending the string
>>as they would normally do.
>>
>> This technique is explained at [2]. The code becomes:
>>
>> { c'1 c' }
>> \addlyrics { "\"To" "arms\"" }
>>
>> That being said, an attractive option would be to use curly
>> quotes. These characters are separate from straight quotes,
>> so they don't have synctactic meaning to LilyPond. Also, they
>> render much nicer in the output.
>>
>> { c'1 c' }
>> \addlyrics { “To arms” }
>>
>> Cheers, and -- welcome on this list!
>> Jean
>>
>> [1]:
>>
>> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-vocal-music#multiple-syllables-to-one-note
>> [2]:
>>
>> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-vocal-music#entering-lyrics
>>
>
Re: Adding a quote to lyrics
Thank you, Jean! The first option with the backslashes worked perfectly.
On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 6:02 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote:
> Le 09/09/2021 à 23:46, Kira Garvie a écrit :
> > Hello all,
> > I am typing the lyrics to a hymn, and it has the line: The cry “To
> > arms!” is heard afar and near. How do I do those quotations without
> > Frescobaldi thinking it’s a string of code? Also I am the newbie-est
> > of newbies with coding and this program here so please be gentle and
> > very specific! Thank you!!
> > Best,
> > Kira
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I assume your problem is about something like this:
>
> \version "2.22.1"
>
> { c'1 c' }
> \addlyrics { "To arms" }
>
> where you want the quotes to appear as part of the
> words "To" and "arms". In the example shown above,
> they group the two words together, making them a
> single syllable (see [1]).
>
> To add these quote marks,
> - enclose each word in quotes, to enable a parsing mode
>that has string-specific features,
> - add a backslash before the quotes you want to include
>literally, to 'escape' them so that they will be
>treated as part of the string without ending the string
>as they would normally do.
>
> This technique is explained at [2]. The code becomes:
>
> { c'1 c' }
> \addlyrics { "\"To" "arms\"" }
>
> That being said, an attractive option would be to use curly
> quotes. These characters are separate from straight quotes,
> so they don't have synctactic meaning to LilyPond. Also, they
> render much nicer in the output.
>
> { c'1 c' }
> \addlyrics { “To arms” }
>
> Cheers, and -- welcome on this list!
> Jean
>
> [1]:
>
> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-vocal-music#multiple-syllables-to-one-note
> [2]:
>
> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-vocal-music#entering-lyrics
>
Re: Adding a quote to lyrics
Le 09/09/2021 à 23:46, Kira Garvie a écrit :
Hello all,
I am typing the lyrics to a hymn, and it has the line: The cry “To
arms!” is heard afar and near. How do I do those quotations without
Frescobaldi thinking it’s a string of code? Also I am the newbie-est
of newbies with coding and this program here so please be gentle and
very specific! Thank you!!
Best,
Kira
Hi,
I assume your problem is about something like this:
\version "2.22.1"
{ c'1 c' }
\addlyrics { "To arms" }
where you want the quotes to appear as part of the
words "To" and "arms". In the example shown above,
they group the two words together, making them a
single syllable (see [1]).
To add these quote marks,
- enclose each word in quotes, to enable a parsing mode
that has string-specific features,
- add a backslash before the quotes you want to include
literally, to 'escape' them so that they will be
treated as part of the string without ending the string
as they would normally do.
This technique is explained at [2]. The code becomes:
{ c'1 c' }
\addlyrics { "\"To" "arms\"" }
That being said, an attractive option would be to use curly
quotes. These characters are separate from straight quotes,
so they don't have synctactic meaning to LilyPond. Also, they
render much nicer in the output.
{ c'1 c' }
\addlyrics { “To arms” }
Cheers, and -- welcome on this list!
Jean
[1]:
https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-vocal-music#multiple-syllables-to-one-note
[2]:
https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/common-notation-for-vocal-music#entering-lyrics
Adding a quote to lyrics
Hello all, I am typing the lyrics to a hymn, and it has the line: The cry “To arms!” is heard afar and near. How do I do those quotations without Frescobaldi thinking it’s a string of code? Also I am the newbie-est of newbies with coding and this program here so please be gentle and very specific! Thank you!! Best, Kira
