Re: Aligning a tempo marking with a note

2015-11-20 Thread David Sumbler
But one would not usually find, say, "rit." in the right hand and "accel." in the left (except in Nancarrow's music!) David > > From: Kieren MacMillan <kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> > > To: Noeck <noeck.marb...@gmx.de> > > Cc: Lilypond-User

Re: Aligning a tempo marking with a note

2015-11-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Joram and David, > you should rather stick to the right syntax David *is* using the right syntax: “rit” (etc.) is a tempo marking (MetronomeMark), not an arbitrary text markup (TextScript). > I have now discovered that this does not work too well when the > mark comes at the beginning of a

Re: Aligning a tempo marking with a note

2015-11-19 Thread Noeck
Hi David, you should rather stick to the right syntax and tweak the appearance of these texts: \version "2.19.21" \layout { \override TextScript.font-series = #'bold } { a^"rit." a a a } Or, if you want to use it only occationally: { a^\markup \bold "rit." a a^"other" a } Cheers,

Re: Aligning a tempo marking with a note

2015-11-19 Thread tisimst
with the note itself, but I haven't > managed to work out how to do that. > > How can it be done? > If playback isn't too much of a concern, this should do what you need: %%% rit = \markup { \bold "rit." } \relative c' { \tempo "Allegro" c8 d e f c d e f c8

Re: Aligning a tempo marking with a note

2015-11-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Joram, > Even editions that print it above the top staff sometimes print it in > italics or less bold or somehow reduced compared to Allegro, Tempo I > and so on (the general tempo). Here’s what Gould writes on that issue (pg. 182): “Older scores use small italic type for general indication

Re: Aligning a tempo marking with a note

2015-11-19 Thread Noeck
Hi Kieren, >> marks like 'Allegro' are valid for a whole piece or at least large parts of >> it > > Not really… A metronome marking is only valid until the next time the tempo > changes in any way. That change could be immediate and extreme (e.g., “Molto > Lento”) or immediate and

Re: Aligning a tempo marking with a note

2015-11-19 Thread Noeck
Hi Kieren, Am 19.11.2015 um 19:23 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: >> you should rather stick to the right syntax > David *is* using the right syntax: “rit” (etc.) is a tempo marking > (MetronomeMark), not an arbitrary text markup (TextScript). Thinking about it twice, I realize that you are right.

Re: Aligning a tempo marking with a note

2015-11-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Noeck, > It is just that I am used to a different tradition That is the older tradition, yes. But it is not recommended in modern scores (cf. Gould pg. 182). > I still think that there is some difference between ‘rit' and 'Allegro’. What is that difference? (I think they’re identical.)

Re: Aligning a tempo marking with a note

2015-11-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > In particular, Kieren's suggestion is interesting. Woo hoo! What do I win? ;) > we are effectively neutralising the usual alignment adjustments at the break. > Is this correct? That’s how I understand it. > Is it not possible to have an empty list? I just tested the snippet I

Re: Aligning a tempo marking with a note

2015-11-19 Thread David Sumbler
iling List <lilypond-user@gnu.org> > > Subject: Re: Aligning a tempo marking with a note > > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 13:23:21 -0500 > > > > Hi Joram and David, > > > > > you should rather stick to the right syntax > > > > David *is* u

Re: Aligning a tempo marking with a note

2015-11-19 Thread Noeck
Hi Kieren, >> I still think that there is some difference between ‘rit' and 'Allegro’. > > What is that difference? (I think they’re identical.) Well, they are closer than cresc and rit for example. But in scores I am used to, marks like 'Allegro' are valid for a whole piece or at least large

Re: Aligning a tempo marking with a note

2015-11-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Joram, > Well, they are closer than cresc and rit for example. Definitely! =) > marks like 'Allegro' are valid for a whole piece or at least large parts of it Not really… A metronome marking is only valid until the next time the tempo changes in any way. That change could be immediate and

Aligning a tempo marking with a note

2015-11-19 Thread David Sumbler
Although many scores use a similar italic font for "rit.", "accel." etc. as they do for dynamic changes such as "cresc.", I prefer to use an upright bold font - the same as for other tempo markings such as "Allegro". The easiest way for me to do this (at least until now) is to use '\tempo "rit."'