Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[Andrew Bernard]

I have compiled a set of step by step instructions for getting point and 
click going with gvim on Alma Linux. I'll start a new thread as this one 
is becoming longish.


Andrew

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[David Wright]

TL;DR

You need to follow Usage, §4.1.1 for evince to call
lilypond-invoke-editor successfully.

On Sat 03 Sep 2022 at 08:49:11 (+0100), J Martin Rushton wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-09-02 at 19:53 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 02 Sep 2022 at 22:46:01 (+0100), J Martin Rushton wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2022-09-02 at 16:17 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > > On Fri 02 Sep 2022 at 21:43:25 (+0100), J Martin Rushton wrote:
> > > > > I've just spent another couple of hours clearing out previous
> > > > > attempts
> > > > > to get Frescobaldi running and attempting to sort out its
> > > > > dependency
> > > > > hell.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is there any alternative to Frescobaldi?
> > > > 
> > > > An editor (emacs) + LilyPond + PDF viewer (xpdf).
> > > > (My choices in parentheses.)
> > > > 
> > > > > I'm running AlmaLinux 8.6 if that helps.
> > > > 
> > > > Not a great deal; does it mean that F~ isn't part of the
> > > > distribution?
> > > > 
> > > My preference is for vi, but yes, that's what I've been using for
> > > the
> > > last couple of years since F~ stopped working.  What I miss though
> > > is
> > > the back link from the score to the source, and the MIDI playback.
> > 
> > 0. Which PDF viewer, and which version of LP?
> 
> Evince
> $ lilypond -v
> GNU LilyPond 2.22.1
> ...
> 
> > 
> > 1. Does the PDF have the textedit URLs?
> >$ grep -a textedit foo.pdf
> >/URI(textedit:///tmp/restpos.ly:4:16:17)>>
> >  ………
> 
> Yes
> 
> > 2. Does the PDF viewer see them? Look for cursor to change as you
> >move over a notehead.
> 
> Yes
> 
> > 3. Run the PDF viewer from the commandline. Click on an active
> >notehead. What appears on the console? Anything like:
> >  lilypond-invoke-editor (GNU LilyPond) 2.22.0
> 
> "textedit:///BlowAwayTheMorningDew.ly:35:16:17"

Is than on the console, or in the evince window itself?

Because I don't use evince, and haven't set it up, I get
"Unable to open external link". But your message starts with
"textedit" rather than "lilypond-invoke-editor", which might
be a similar problem.

I think you need to set up the GNOME section in Usage §4.1.1.
Whether you also need the following section, "Extra
configuration for Evince", depends on whether Alma has
configured apparmor or not. Repost if you get permission errors.

> > 4. Is lilypond-invoke-editor defined?
> >$ which lilypond-invoke-editor
> >/usr/bin/lilypond-invoke-editor
> 
> $ command -v lilypond
> /opt/bin/lilypond
> $ ls -l /opt/bin/lilypond
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 112 Feb 13  2022 /opt/bin/lilypond
> $ ls -l /opt/bin/lilypond-invoke-editor
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Feb 13  2022 /opt/bin/lilypond-invoke-editor
> -> /opt/bin/lilypond-wrapper.guile
> 
> 
> > 5. Can lilypond-invoke-editor open a file in an editor,
> >preferably the one you want?
> >$ lilypond-invoke-editor textedit:///tmp/foo.txt:2:4:6
> >/tmp/foo.txt is the full path to any old text file with
> >more than a couple of lines in it. The cursor should land
> >on the second line, four chars along.
> 
> $ lilypond-invoke-editor
> textedit:BlowAwayTheMorningDew.ly:2:4:6
> lilypond-invoke-editor (GNU LilyPond) 2.22.1
> sh: emacsclient: command not found
> sh: emacs: command not found

5a. Try:

$ LYEDITOR=gvim lilypond-invoke-editor 
textedit:BlowAwayTheMorningDew.ly:2:4:6

If that works, you need to set LYEDITOR in your startup file.
That might be as above or, in view of your answer below, to:

  LYEDITOR="vi --servername gvim"

Or start editing with:

$ vi --servername gvim BlowAwayTheMorningDew.ly

If vi isn't running when you point and click, you should just get an
extra message, like 'E247: no registered server named "GVIM":
Send failed. Trying to execute locally', which should be harmless.

(The benefit of starting vi yourself is that you get to control where
it runs, rather than it just popping up when you click the first time.)

If 5a doesn't work, substitute EDITOR for LYEDITOR. (The benefit of
LYEDITOR is that EDITOR usually has a meaning across the entire OS,
rather than just this application.)

> > How many of those steps work?
> > 
> > And at the other end of the process, are you starting vi as
> > a server, with something like:
> > 
> > $ gvim
> > $ vim --servername GVIM
> > $ vi --servername gvim
> > 
> > (letter-case unimportant), else you might see:
> > E247: no registered server named "GVIM": Send failed.
> 
> $ vi BlowAwayTheMorningDew.ly
> 
> FYI
> $ command -v vi
> /usr/bin/vi
> bash-4.4$ ls -l /usr/bin/vi
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1180368 Aug  2 17:57 /usr/bin/vi

Cheers,
David.

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[Adam M. Griggs]

How about Elysium?

http://elysium.thsoft.hu/getting-started

I have never tried it, but it is suggested on the Lilypond website:

http://lilypond.org/easier-editing.html

On Sun, 4 Sep 2022, 17:52 Thomas Morley,  wrote:

> Am So., 4. Sept. 2022 um 08:51 Uhr schrieb Silvain Dupertuis
> :
> >
> > As far as editing music sheet is concerned,Io remember having been using
> jEdit, a text editor written in Java, with a Lilypond extension displaying
> the PDF with links to the Lilypond code like Frescobaldi does it.
> >
> > That was a long time ago, maybe before I even had Frescobaldi, but it
> would be worthwhile exploring...
> >
> > Silvain Dupertuis
>
> I'm still using jEdit, though the LilyPondTool plugin is not
> maintained for a decade:
>
> http://lilypondtool.blogspot.com/2012/09/lilypondtool-2149-release-last-for.html
>
> Personally I don't care about it, though therefore I'd not recommend
> jEdit for starters.
>
> Cheers,
>   Harm
>
>

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[Thomas Morley]

Am So., 4. Sept. 2022 um 08:51 Uhr schrieb Silvain Dupertuis
:
>
> As far as editing music sheet is concerned,Io remember having been using 
> jEdit, a text editor written in Java, with a Lilypond extension displaying 
> the PDF with links to the Lilypond code like Frescobaldi does it.
>
> That was a long time ago, maybe before I even had Frescobaldi, but it would 
> be worthwhile exploring...
>
> Silvain Dupertuis

I'm still using jEdit, though the LilyPondTool plugin is not
maintained for a decade:
http://lilypondtool.blogspot.com/2012/09/lilypondtool-2149-release-last-for.html

Personally I don't care about it, though therefore I'd not recommend
jEdit for starters.

Cheers,
  Harm

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[Silvain Dupertuis]

As far as editing music sheet is concerned,Io remember having been using jEdit, a text 
editor written in Java, with a Lilypond extension displaying the PDF with links to the 
Lilypond code like Frescobaldi does it.


That was a long time ago, maybe before I even had Frescobaldi, but it would be worthwhile 
exploring...


Silvain Dupertuis

.



J Martin Rushton MBCS



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Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[J Martin Rushton]

The system does produce sound (CD/DVD, YouTube, annoying "ta-da" alerts
etc.  I'll have to experiment with fluidsynth tomorrow evening,
unfortunately I'm a bit tied up until then.
On Sat, 2022-09-03 at 15:06 -0500, Guy Stalnaker wrote:
> Does the system produce sound (so you know sound drivers are
> working). 
> If yes, does fluidsynth produce sound output if you use it to play a
> midi file from a to terminal (you have to provide cli options for
> output device, eg ALSA, and soundfont, full path). 
> 
> If yes, can you start fluidsynth in server mode and, optionally,
> specify the name (or perhaps use QSynth for this), or use #> ps -ef
> to see the fluidsynth process id, then check in Frescobaldi if that
> process ID/name shows in the midi preferences config? 
> 
> It's flyidsynth that converts midi to sound. If I remember rightly
> all Frescobaldi does is pass the midi data to fluidsynth when it's
> running in server mode.
> 
> But you can probably play midi files with timiditu, playmidi, etc
> even if the above won't work.
> 
> Hopefully.
> 
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2022, 12:14 PM J Martin Rushton <
> martinrushto...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2022-09-04 at 00:52 +1000, Andrew Bernard wrote:
> > 
> > > Using Alma Linux 9 I can get Frescobaldi running with flatpak. I
> > 
> > > just 
> > 
> > > installed it - no messing around. See attached image.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > Have not tried Alma Linux 8.6.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > I have not hammered it to test but the fact that it works is
> > 
> > > something. 
> > 
> > > You can seen in the images there are some errors on the terminal.
> > 
> > > But 
> > 
> > > I'd rather fiddle with source to address those than build F from
> > 
> > > source, 
> > 
> > > which is still ridiculously hard with so many python stumbling
> > 
> > > blocks, 
> > 
> > > even when using Qt5.
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > Andrew
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Well that seems to work now after a fashion.  I don't know if it
> > was
> > 
> > the 52 packages I installed via dnf, two packages via pip3 (pip
> > doesn't
> > 
> > work) or linking qmake -> qmake-qt5.  MIDI still isn't producing
> > any
> > 
> > sound, but that may well be local configuration.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Anyhow, thanks very much.  I've added it to the menu system and it
> > runs
> > 
> > up happily without a VT.  Just in time for a competition I've tried
> > for
> > 
> > in the past, but didn't manage to get a decent score last year.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> > 
> > Martin
> > 
> > 
> > 
-- 
J Martin Rushton MBCS

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[Guy Stalnaker]

Does the system produce sound (so you know sound drivers are working).

If yes, does fluidsynth produce sound output if you use it to play a midi
file from a to terminal (you have to provide cli options for output device,
eg ALSA, and soundfont, full path).

If yes, can you start fluidsynth in server mode and, optionally, specify
the name (or perhaps use QSynth for this), or use #> ps -ef to see the
fluidsynth process id, then check in Frescobaldi if that process ID/name
shows in the midi preferences config?

It's flyidsynth that converts midi to sound. If I remember rightly all
Frescobaldi does is pass the midi data to fluidsynth when it's running in
server mode.

But you can probably play midi files with timiditu, playmidi, etc even if
the above won't work.

Hopefully.

On Sat, Sep 3, 2022, 12:14 PM J Martin Rushton <
martinrushto...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 2022-09-04 at 00:52 +1000, Andrew Bernard wrote:
> > Using Alma Linux 9 I can get Frescobaldi running with flatpak. I
> > just
> > installed it - no messing around. See attached image.
> >
> > Have not tried Alma Linux 8.6.
> >
> > I have not hammered it to test but the fact that it works is
> > something.
> > You can seen in the images there are some errors on the terminal.
> > But
> > I'd rather fiddle with source to address those than build F from
> > source,
> > which is still ridiculously hard with so many python stumbling
> > blocks,
> > even when using Qt5.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> Well that seems to work now after a fashion.  I don't know if it was
> the 52 packages I installed via dnf, two packages via pip3 (pip doesn't
> work) or linking qmake -> qmake-qt5.  MIDI still isn't producing any
> sound, but that may well be local configuration.
>
> Anyhow, thanks very much.  I've added it to the menu system and it runs
> up happily without a VT.  Just in time for a competition I've tried for
> in the past, but didn't manage to get a decent score last year.
>
> Kind regards,
> Martin
>
> --
> J Martin Rushton MBCS
>
>
>

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[J Martin Rushton]

On Sun, 2022-09-04 at 00:52 +1000, Andrew Bernard wrote:
> Using Alma Linux 9 I can get Frescobaldi running with flatpak. I
> just 
> installed it - no messing around. See attached image.
> 
> Have not tried Alma Linux 8.6.
> 
> I have not hammered it to test but the fact that it works is
> something. 
> You can seen in the images there are some errors on the terminal.
> But 
> I'd rather fiddle with source to address those than build F from
> source, 
> which is still ridiculously hard with so many python stumbling
> blocks, 
> even when using Qt5.
> 
> Andrew
> 
Well that seems to work now after a fashion.  I don't know if it was
the 52 packages I installed via dnf, two packages via pip3 (pip doesn't
work) or linking qmake -> qmake-qt5.  MIDI still isn't producing any
sound, but that may well be local configuration.

Anyhow, thanks very much.  I've added it to the menu system and it runs
up happily without a VT.  Just in time for a competition I've tried for
in the past, but didn't manage to get a decent score last year.

Kind regards,
Martin

-- 
J Martin Rushton MBCS

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[J Martin Rushton]

On Sat, 2022-09-03 at 06:50 +0200, Jean Abou Samra wrote:
> 
> Le 02/09/2022 à 22:43, J Martin Rushton a écrit :
> > I've just spent another couple of hours clearing out previous
> > attempts
> > to get Frescobaldi running and attempting to sort out its
> > dependency
> > hell.
> > [...]
> > I'm running AlmaLinux 8.6 if that helps.
> 
> Would it work for you to us the Frescobaldi Flatpak package?
> 
> https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.frescobaldi.Frescobaldi

I've tried the flatpack in the past and didn't get anywhere with it.

-- 
J Martin Rushton MBCS

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[Andrew Bernard]

I have just discovered from a query in the Google Groups Frescobaldi 
group that Frescobaldi 3 uses Qt5. In my stupidity I was reading the 
frescobaldi.org download and build instructions for Frescobaldi 2 (may 
be better if that were deleted by now).


Therefore, I will start anew!

Andrew

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[Davide Liessi]

Dear all,

I answered elsewhere
(https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/issues/1454,
https://groups.google.com/g/frescobaldi/c/dUQPO85jUL0), but for the
sake of completeness:

Il giorno sab 3 set 2022 alle ore 03:24 Andrew Bernard
 ha scritto:
> Part of the process to install PyQt4
> is to install enough of Qt4 to get qmake and that's a nightmare. It's
> absurdly complicated. And Qt4 has been obsoleted anyway, making this all
> that much harder.

Frescobaldi moved to Qt5 with version 3.0.0 (released 17 February 2017).
It currently does not support Qt6.

Best wishes.
Davide

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[Andrew Bernard]

Fair enough.

I spent all afternoon on it. I am utterly unable to get Qt4 going on 
Alma Linux despite decades of being a UNIX programmer. I think it's 
futile. I conisdered doing the port of Frescobaldi to Qt6 but that is a 
large job, and besides, may destabilise other peoples installs


A few years ago I wrote a step by step guide to getting gvim working 
with Lilypond on Ubuntu. If you search the mailing list you will find 
it. It may be useful to you and easily adaptable. There's really only 
one way to do it, and some of the steps are given in this thread by 
others. As an aside, I find mupdf to be more lightweight and easier to 
get going than evince.


Alma Linux is great, but probably not a good platform for Frescobaldi at 
this point.


Andrew


On 3/09/2022 5:54 pm, J Martin Rushton wrote:

On Sat, 2022-09-03 at 11:23 +1000, Andrew Bernard wrote:

How committed are you to Alma Linux? At this point I would recommend

Pretty committed.  I

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[J Martin Rushton]

On Sat, 2022-09-03 at 11:23 +1000, Andrew Bernard wrote:
> Well well. Alma Linux is indeed a fine distro, but now I agree with
> you 
> about dependencies on this linux. Part of the process to install
> PyQt4 
> is to install enough of Qt4 to get qmake and that's a nightmare.
> It's 
> absurdly complicated. And Qt4 has been obsoleted anyway, making this
> all 
> that much harder.
> 
> How committed are you to Alma Linux? At this point I would recommend
> a 
> distro that you don't have to fight with, such as Ubuntu, which has 
> frescobaldi in the repo anyway.
> 
> If you cannot or will not change from Alma Linux I can push on. Do
> let 
> me know.
> 
> Andrew
> 

Pretty committed.  I ran CentOS on this machine for several years until
it was killed off, then switched to Alma.  It runs as the home server
(DNS, DHCP, web, OwnCloud, Dokuwiki, disk farm and backups) so
switching to another distro would be a right royal pain for the whole
family.  I also prefer the stability of a enterprise distro rather than
the vagaries of a rolling one.

> 
> On 3/09/2022 9:37 am, Andrew Bernard wrote:
> > I've come late to this thread, but if you are on Alma Linux I'll
> > run a 
> > VM up and figure this for you. Don''t despair.
> > 
> > I'm not aware of any 'dependency hell' on several other Linux
> > distros, 
> > so let me sort this out and post a set of instructions how to
> > install it.
> > 
-- 
J Martin Rushton MBCS

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[J Martin Rushton]

On Fri, 2022-09-02 at 19:53 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 02 Sep 2022 at 22:46:01 (+0100), J Martin Rushton wrote:
> > On Fri, 2022-09-02 at 16:17 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > On Fri 02 Sep 2022 at 21:43:25 (+0100), J Martin Rushton wrote:
> > > > I've just spent another couple of hours clearing out previous
> > > > attempts
> > > > to get Frescobaldi running and attempting to sort out its
> > > > dependency
> > > > hell.
> > > > 
> > > > Is there any alternative to Frescobaldi?
> > > 
> > > An editor (emacs) + LilyPond + PDF viewer (xpdf).
> > > (My choices in parentheses.)
> > > 
> > > > I'm running AlmaLinux 8.6 if that helps.
> > > 
> > > Not a great deal; does it mean that F~ isn't part of the
> > > distribution?
> > > 
> > My preference is for vi, but yes, that's what I've been using for
> > the
> > last couple of years since F~ stopped working.  What I miss though
> > is
> > the back link from the score to the source, and the MIDI playback.
> 
> 0. Which PDF viewer, and which version of LP?

Evince
$ lilypond -v
GNU LilyPond 2.22.1
...

> 
> 1. Does the PDF have the textedit URLs?
>$ grep -a textedit foo.pdf
>/URI(textedit:///tmp/restpos.ly:4:16:17)>>
>  ………

Yes

> 2. Does the PDF viewer see them? Look for cursor to change as you
>move over a notehead.

Yes

> 3. Run the PDF viewer from the commandline. Click on an active
>notehead. What appears on the console? Anything like:
>  lilypond-invoke-editor (GNU LilyPond) 2.22.0

"textedit:///BlowAwayTheMorningDew.ly:35:16:17"

> 4. Is lilypond-invoke-editor defined?
>$ which lilypond-invoke-editor
>/usr/bin/lilypond-invoke-editor

$ command -v lilypond
/opt/bin/lilypond
$ ls -l /opt/bin/lilypond
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 112 Feb 13  2022 /opt/bin/lilypond
$ ls -l /opt/bin/lilypond-invoke-editor
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Feb 13  2022 /opt/bin/lilypond-invoke-editor
-> /opt/bin/lilypond-wrapper.guile


> 5. Can lilypond-invoke-editor open a file in an editor,
>preferably the one you want?
>$ lilypond-invoke-editor textedit:///tmp/foo.txt:2:4:6
>/tmp/foo.txt is the full path to any old text file with
>more than a couple of lines in it. The cursor should land
>on the second line, four chars along.

$ lilypond-invoke-editor
textedit:BlowAwayTheMorningDew.ly:2:4:6
lilypond-invoke-editor (GNU LilyPond) 2.22.1
sh: emacsclient: command not found
sh: emacs: command not found

> How many of those steps work?
> 
> And at the other end of the process, are you starting vi as
> a server, with something like:
> 
> $ gvim
> $ vim --servername GVIM
> $ vi --servername gvim
> 
> (letter-case unimportant), else you might see:
> E247: no registered server named "GVIM": Send failed.

$ vi BlowAwayTheMorningDew.ly

FYI
$ command -v vi
/usr/bin/vi
bash-4.4$ ls -l /usr/bin/vi
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1180368 Aug  2 17:57 /usr/bin/vi

> Cheers,
> David.
-- 
J Martin Rushton MBCS

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[Jean Abou Samra]

Le 02/09/2022 à 22:43, J Martin Rushton a écrit :

I've just spent another couple of hours clearing out previous attempts
to get Frescobaldi running and attempting to sort out its dependency
hell.
[...]
I'm running AlmaLinux 8.6 if that helps.



Would it work for you to us the Frescobaldi Flatpak package?

https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.frescobaldi.Frescobaldi

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[Andrew Bernard]

Well well. Alma Linux is indeed a fine distro, but now I agree with you 
about dependencies on this linux. Part of the process to install PyQt4 
is to install enough of Qt4 to get qmake and that's a nightmare. It's 
absurdly complicated. And Qt4 has been obsoleted anyway, making this all 
that much harder.


How committed are you to Alma Linux? At this point I would recommend a 
distro that you don't have to fight with, such as Ubuntu, which has 
frescobaldi in the repo anyway.


If you cannot or will not change from Alma Linux I can push on. Do let 
me know.


Andrew


On 3/09/2022 9:37 am, Andrew Bernard wrote:
I've come late to this thread, but if you are on Alma Linux I'll run a 
VM up and figure this for you. Don''t despair.


I'm not aware of any 'dependency hell' on several other Linux distros, 
so let me sort this out and post a set of instructions how to install it.

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[David Wright]

On Fri 02 Sep 2022 at 22:46:01 (+0100), J Martin Rushton wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-09-02 at 16:17 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 02 Sep 2022 at 21:43:25 (+0100), J Martin Rushton wrote:
> > > I've just spent another couple of hours clearing out previous
> > > attempts
> > > to get Frescobaldi running and attempting to sort out its
> > > dependency
> > > hell.
> > > 
> > > Is there any alternative to Frescobaldi?
> > 
> > An editor (emacs) + LilyPond + PDF viewer (xpdf).
> > (My choices in parentheses.)
> > 
> > > I'm running AlmaLinux 8.6 if that helps.
> > 
> > Not a great deal; does it mean that F~ isn't part of the
> > distribution?
> > 
> My preference is for vi, but yes, that's what I've been using for the
> last couple of years since F~ stopped working.  What I miss though is
> the back link from the score to the source, and the MIDI playback.

0. Which PDF viewer, and which version of LP?

1. Does the PDF have the textedit URLs?
   $ grep -a textedit foo.pdf
   /URI(textedit:///tmp/restpos.ly:4:16:17)>>
 ………

2. Does the PDF viewer see them? Look for cursor to change as you
   move over a notehead.

3. Run the PDF viewer from the commandline. Click on an active
   notehead. What appears on the console? Anything like:
 lilypond-invoke-editor (GNU LilyPond) 2.22.0

4. Is lilypond-invoke-editor defined?
   $ which lilypond-invoke-editor
   /usr/bin/lilypond-invoke-editor

5. Can lilypond-invoke-editor open a file in an editor,
   preferably the one you want?
   $ lilypond-invoke-editor textedit:///tmp/foo.txt:2:4:6
   /tmp/foo.txt is the full path to any old text file with
   more than a couple of lines in it. The cursor should land
   on the second line, four chars along.

How many of those steps work?

And at the other end of the process, are you starting vi as
a server, with something like:

$ gvim
$ vim --servername GVIM
$ vi --servername gvim

(letter-case unimportant), else you might see:
E247: no registered server named "GVIM": Send failed.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[Andrew Bernard]

I've come late to this thread, but if you are on Alma Linux I'll run a 
VM up and figure this for you. Don''t despair.


I'm not aware of any 'dependency hell' on several other Linux distros, 
so let me sort this out and post a set of instructions how to install it.



Andrew


On 3/09/2022 6:43 am, J Martin Rushton wrote:

I've just spent another couple of hours clearing out previous attempts
to get Frescobaldi running and attempting to sort out its dependency
hell.

Is there any alternative to Frescobaldi?

I'm running AlmaLinux 8.6 if that helps.

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[Jacques Menu]

Hello folks,

> Le 2 sept. 2022 à 23:46, J Martin Rushton  a 
> écrit :
> 
> On Fri, 2022-09-02 at 16:17 -0500, David Wright wrote:
>> On Fri 02 Sep 2022 at 21:43:25 (+0100), J Martin Rushton wrote:
>>> I've just spent another couple of hours clearing out previous
>>> attempts
>>> to get Frescobaldi running and attempting to sort out its
>>> dependency
>>> hell.
>>> 
>>> Is there any alternative to Frescobaldi?
>> 
>> An editor (emacs) + LilyPond + PDF viewer (xpdf).
>> (My choices in parentheses.)
>> 
>>> I'm running AlmaLinux 8.6 if that helps.
>> 
>> Not a great deal; does it mean that F~ isn't part of the
>> distribution?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> David.
> My preference is for vi, but yes, that's what I've been using for the
> last couple of years since F~ stopped working.  What I miss though is
> the back link from the score to the source, and the MIDI playback.

Is it known why F~ stopped working and wasn’t fixed?

JM

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[J Martin Rushton]

On Fri, 2022-09-02 at 16:17 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 02 Sep 2022 at 21:43:25 (+0100), J Martin Rushton wrote:
> > I've just spent another couple of hours clearing out previous
> > attempts
> > to get Frescobaldi running and attempting to sort out its
> > dependency
> > hell.
> > 
> > Is there any alternative to Frescobaldi?
> 
> An editor (emacs) + LilyPond + PDF viewer (xpdf).
> (My choices in parentheses.)
> 
> > I'm running AlmaLinux 8.6 if that helps.
> 
> Not a great deal; does it mean that F~ isn't part of the
> distribution?
> 
> Cheers,
> David.
My preference is for vi, but yes, that's what I've been using for the
last couple of years since F~ stopped working.  What I miss though is
the back link from the score to the source, and the MIDI playback.

-- 
J Martin Rushton MBCS

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[David Wright]

On Fri 02 Sep 2022 at 21:43:25 (+0100), J Martin Rushton wrote:
> I've just spent another couple of hours clearing out previous attempts
> to get Frescobaldi running and attempting to sort out its dependency
> hell.
> 
> Is there any alternative to Frescobaldi?

An editor (emacs) + LilyPond + PDF viewer (xpdf).
(My choices in parentheses.)

> I'm running AlmaLinux 8.6 if that helps.

Not a great deal; does it mean that F~ isn't part of the distribution?

Cheers,
David.

Re: Alternative to Frescobaldi

[Valentin Petzel]

Hi Martin,

that depends on what you consider an alternative to Frescobaldi. Lilypond can 
be used with any text editor. There is a quite powerful Lilypond module for 
VSCode, maybe that is something along the lines of what you are looking for?

Cheers,
Valentin

Am Freitag, 2. September 2022, 22:43:25 CEST schrieb J Martin Rushton:
> I've just spent another couple of hours clearing out previous attempts
> to get Frescobaldi running and attempting to sort out its dependency
> hell.
> 
> Is there any alternative to Frescobaldi?
> 
> I'm running AlmaLinux 8.6 if that helps.



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Alternative to Frescobaldi

[J Martin Rushton]

I've just spent another couple of hours clearing out previous attempts
to get Frescobaldi running and attempting to sort out its dependency
hell.

Is there any alternative to Frescobaldi?

I'm running AlmaLinux 8.6 if that helps.

-- 
J Martin Rushton MBCS