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> Subject: Re: Automatic beaming with rest
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Hi Carl,
> I think that if we can get smarter autobeaming (like we need to do to get
> subdivision and tuplets done right) we can do beaming over rests. Probably
> we need to do a two-pass beam check to get the autobeaming right for
> subdivision, and if we do two-pass, we can beam over
On 4/2/19, 9:41 AM, "Kieren MacMillan" wrote:
>Hi David,
>> What is the "beat" as defined for the beam?
> Perhaps I should use the word "moment"… Example: In 3/4, one can set the
autobeamer to beam sub-quarter notes as 3, or 2+1, or 1+2, or 1+1+1 (or even
other
Hi David,
> What is the "beat" as defined for the beam?
Perhaps I should use the word "moment"… Example: In 3/4, one can set the
autobeamer to beam sub-quarter notes as 3, or 2+1, or 1+2, or 1+1+1 (or even
other options, I suppose). The moment an auto-beam encompasses (as a result of
the
Hi David,
> So if we have
> { \time 4/4 c'8 r4 c'8 8 8 8 8 }
> will there be a beam across r4?
Would there be a beam across
c'8 c'4 c'8
? If yes, then yes; if no, then no.
> What if we have r8 r8 instead?
Would there be a beam across
c'8 c'8 c'8 c'8
? If yes, then yes; if no, then no.
Kieren MacMillan writes:
> p.s.
>
> Before you ask: Yes, it would be great to include the option/parameter
> to extend across *all* rests that fall within the "beat" as defined
> for the beam,
What is the "beat" as defined for the beam?
> even if they fall outside the compass of the two
Kieren MacMillan writes:
> Hi David,
>
>> So if you have a bar containing only rests, the autobeamer places
> beams over them?
>
> LOL
> Sure, we can play this game…
It's not a game to work out specs. It's not optional. Computers don't
do handwaving.
> An automatic beam must start from a
Hi there,
> I don't think it's quite that simple as rests that begin or end beam groups
> wouldn't have beams over them, only ones in the middle.
Not strictly true: in modern scores, the beam could easily extend over those
rests (especially if stemlets are used). We just need to give the user
p.s.
Before you ask: Yes, it would be great to include the option/parameter to
extend across *all* rests that fall within the "beat" as defined for the beam,
even if they fall outside the compass of the two "boundary notes" for the auto
beam.
Kieren.
Kieren
On 2019-04-02 11:05 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
The auto-beamer should beam according to the settings that it would apply if
there were no rests.
I don't think it's quite that simple as rests that begin or end beam
groups wouldn't have beams over them, only ones in the middle.
It might be
Hi David,
> So if you have a bar containing only rests, the autobeamer places beams over
> them?
LOL
Sure, we can play this game…
An automatic beam must start from a note and end at a second note.
Cheers,
Kieren.
Kieren MacMillan, composer
‣ website:
Kieren MacMillan writes:
> Hi David,
>
>> It is not clear what that option would be supposed to do when.
>
> The auto-beamer should beam according to the settings that it would
> apply if there were no rests.
>
> Seems perfectly clear to me… but maybe that’s because I want the feature. =)
So
Hi David,
> It is not clear what that option would be supposed to do when.
The auto-beamer should beam according to the settings that it would apply if
there were no rests.
Seems perfectly clear to me… but maybe that’s because I want the feature. =)
Cheers,
Kieren.
Kieren MacMillan writes:
> Hey there,
>
>> But in my case, it is a typical engraving rule and I was wondering if I
>> wasn't missing a little option like
>> \set BeamOverRest = ##t
>
> I would love that option. Maybe submit it as a formal request?
Too much handwaving. It is not clear what
Hey there,
> But in my case, it is a typical engraving rule and I was wondering if I
> wasn't missing a little option like
> \set BeamOverRest = ##t
I would love that option. Maybe submit it as a formal request?
Cheers,
Kieren.
Kieren MacMillan, composer
‣
Kieren MacMillan wrote
> The documentation explicitly says “the autobeamer will not put beams over
> rests or bar lines”
> (http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/beams#manual-beams;).
> I hope someone [with real Scheme-fu] offers you a function/callback/hack
> that will do it
Hi there!
> is there a way to make the second line of my example to look like my
> third line without writing manually the brackets each time?
The documentation explicitly says “the autobeamer will not put beams over rests
or bar lines”
Hi all,
I have a score to write with a lot of beaming upon rests. Here is a short
example:
\relative c' {
c8 c c c c c c c
c r c r c r c r
c[ r c] r c[ r c] r
}
By default LP make the beam duration of a half note in 4/4.
But is there a way to make the second line of my example to look
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