Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 10:28 AM, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi Kieren, > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Kieren MacMillan > wrote: >> Hi David, >> >>> Further down in that thread is an implementation of shorten-pair with >>> hairpins: >>>

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

On Fri, 2016-10-14 at 12:07 +0200, Thomas Morley wrote: > Hi David: > > 2016-10-11 15:51 GMT+02:00 David Sumbler : > > > > The reasons for the long gap were (a) moving house in February and, > > more importantly (b) feeling very discouraged by the apparent > >

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

Hi David: 2016-10-11 15:51 GMT+02:00 David Sumbler : > The reasons for the long gap were (a) moving house in February and, > more importantly (b) feeling very discouraged by the apparent > unpredictability of hairpin lengths in Lilypond, despite all Harm's > valiant efforts.

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

On Thu, 2016-10-13 at 23:54 +0200, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 13.10.2016 14:41, David Sumbler wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2016-10-12 at 14:10 -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > > > > > Hi David, > > > > > > > > > > > But I realise that often what I need in order to get > > > > satisfactory > > > >

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

On 13.10.2016 14:41, David Sumbler wrote: On Wed, 2016-10-12 at 14:10 -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi David, But I realise that often what I need in order to get satisfactory hairpins is more space between the note heads, and simply moving the ends of the hairpin does not reposition the

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

On Wed, 2016-10-12 at 14:10 -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi David, > > > > > But I realise that often what I need in order to get satisfactory > > hairpins is more space between the note heads, and simply moving > > the > > ends of the hairpin does not reposition the relevant notes. > Have

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

Hi David, > But I realise that often what I need in order to get satisfactory > hairpins is more space between the note heads, and simply moving the > ends of the hairpin does not reposition the relevant notes. Have you tried adjusting the minimum-length? %%% SNIPPET BEGINS \version "2.18.2"

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

Thanks for this and other replies to my original query.  The routine works well. It does what it says on the can - moving the ends of the hairpin - and that will be very useful. But I realise that often what I need in order to get satisfactory hairpins is more space between the note heads, and

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

Hi Kieren, On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi David, > >> Further down in that thread is an implementation of shorten-pair with >> hairpins: >> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-06/msg00277.html > > The $1,000,000 Question:

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

Hi David, > Further down in that thread is an implementation of shorten-pair with > hairpins: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-06/msg00277.html The $1,000,000 Question: Why isn’t this in the distro? =) Thanks for this! Kieren. Kieren

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

Hi, On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 9:07 AM, tisimst wrote: > David, > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 8:01 AM, Kieren MacMillan [via Lilypond] <[hidden > email]> wrote: >> >> Hi David, >> >> > Just so that I have as many weapons as possible at my disposal, are >> > there any

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

ooked up with more granular control of both ends of the hairpin: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-06/ msg00176.html It's not perfect, but might do the job for you. HTH, Abraham -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Controlling-hairpin-length

Re: Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

Hi David, > Just so that I have as many weapons as possible at my disposal, are > there any other parameters which might directly affect the horizontal > position of the left-hand end and/or the right-hand end or a hairpin, > or its length? \after Hairpin.bound-padding Hairpin.X-offset

Controlling hairpin length - revisited!

After a 9 month gap, I have finally come back to Lilypond and will attempt to finish tweaking my string quartet score and parts.  I have installed v2.19.48, and I have run 'convert-ly' on my files. The reasons for the long gap were (a) moving house in February and, more importantly (b) feeling

Re: Controlling hairpin length

On Sat, 2016-01-23 at 13:27 +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > 2016-01-21 16:54 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > > > > > Unfortunately I am still getting some over-long hairpins. I think that > > perhaps this has nothing to do with myHairpinMinimumLength, because I > > was getting

Re: Controlling hairpin length

Dear Harm and David, I find this whole thread rather helpful and have just copied the consolidated example as of Harm's last post into my personal snippet archive. Thank you guys, Michael -- Michael Gerdau email: m...@qata.de GPG-keys available on request or at public keyserver

Re: Controlling hairpin length

2016-01-21 16:54 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > I have tried substituting \! for my \invP markings, and replacing my > tweaked -\ten markings with standard -- marks. Please, tell me exactly how \ten is defined. Cheers, Harm ___

Re: Controlling hairpin length

On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 11:15 +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > 2016-01-21 16:54 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > > > I have tried substituting \! for my \invP markings, and replacing my > > tweaked -\ten markings with standard -- marks. > > Please, tell me exactly how \ten is defined.

Re: Controlling hairpin length

On Tue, 2016-01-19 at 23:00 +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > %% a helper: > #(define (look-up-for-parent name-symbol axis grob) > "Return the parent of @var{grob}, specified by it's @var{name-symbol} > in > axis @var{axis} of @var{grob}. If @var{grob} is already equal to the > grob > named

Re: Controlling hairpin length

2016-01-19 13:53 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > On Tue, 2016-01-19 at 01:27 +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: >> 2016-01-19 1:04 GMT+01:00 Thomas Morley : >> > Hi David, >> > >> > 2016-01-18 22:56 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : >> > >> >> After

Re: Controlling hairpin length

On Tue, 2016-01-19 at 01:27 +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > 2016-01-19 1:04 GMT+01:00 Thomas Morley : > > Hi David, > > > > 2016-01-18 22:56 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > > > >> After spending some hours trying to get to the bottom of this problem, > >

Re: Controlling hairpin length

Hi David, 2016-01-18 22:56 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > After spending some hours trying to get to the bottom of this problem, [...] Well, I spend some hours creating the function(s) ;) > I narrowed it down to 3 different elements in my files [...] > I feel > that ideally an

Re: Controlling hairpin length

2016-01-19 1:04 GMT+01:00 Thomas Morley : > Hi David, > > 2016-01-18 22:56 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > >> After spending some hours trying to get to the bottom of this problem, > [...] > > Well, I spend some hours creating the function(s) ;) > >> I

Re: Controlling hairpin length

On Sun, 2016-01-17 at 20:15 +0100, Thomas Morley wrote: > 2016-01-17 19:21 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > > > > > The only trouble is, I am getting a lot of compiler errors and warnings. > > For each of the relevant layout blocks, I get: > > > > programming error: infinite rod >

Re: Controlling hairpin length

It's true - your example, using the bar I included in my previous email, works fine. In my previous attempts at getting this to work with the whole quartet I had your 2 Scheme "define"s and the myHairpinMinimumLength definition in a file of defaults, which has an /include in my top file. In the

Re: Controlling hairpin length

2016-01-17 19:21 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > > The only trouble is, I am getting a lot of compiler errors and warnings. > For each of the relevant layout blocks, I get: > > programming error: infinite rod > continuing, cross fingers > > and then numerous instances of: > >

Re: Controlling hairpin length

Thank you for the suggestion (below) for controlling the actual length of hairpins. I am afraid it has taken until now for me to have an opportunity to try it out in my string quartet. Unfortunately, I find that it is only a partial success. Previously I had '\override Hairpin.minimum-length =

Re: Controlling hairpin length

2016-01-17 17:36 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > Thank you for the suggestion (below) for controlling the actual length > of hairpins. I am afraid it has taken until now for me to have an > opportunity to try it out in my string quartet. Unfortunately, I find > that it is only a

Controlling hairpin length

Although I quite often find myself needing to use \override Voice.Hairpin.minimum-length = #2 or similar, I find that the results are unpredictable (to me!) Sometimes I have a very short hairpin, perhaps starting on a quaver and ending on the next quaver. In the output such a hairpin sometimes

Re: Controlling hairpin length

2015-12-12 17:46 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > Although I quite often find myself needing to use > > \override Voice.Hairpin.minimum-length = #2 > > or similar, I find that the results are unpredictable (to me!) > > Sometimes I have a very short hairpin, perhaps starting on a

Re: Controlling hairpin length

2015-12-12 22:35 GMT+01:00 Thomas Morley : > 2015-12-12 17:46 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : >> Although I quite often find myself needing to use >> >> \override Voice.Hairpin.minimum-length = #2 >> >> or similar, I find that the results are unpredictable