Re: Is there a glyph? (or something) to indicate a clap in a vocal piece?

[Kenneth Wolcott]

Veddy veddy funny :-)

On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 1:28 PM David Kastrup  wrote:
>
> Kenneth Wolcott  writes:
>
> > Hi;
> >
> >   On a related note (pun not intended!) I have seen a Tuba solo score
> > where there is a notation to "slap" the instrument, shown as literally
> > a "slap" like a "rit." or ".cresc.". I was wondering how to engrave
> > that...other than the obvious...
>
> For tuba solo I think it would be important to indicate that one is
> supposed to slap the instrument rather than the player.
>
> --
> David Kastrup

Re: Is there a glyph? (or something) to indicate a clap in a vocal piece?

[David Kastrup]

Kenneth Wolcott  writes:

> Hi;
>
>   On a related note (pun not intended!) I have seen a Tuba solo score
> where there is a notation to "slap" the instrument, shown as literally
> a "slap" like a "rit." or ".cresc.". I was wondering how to engrave
> that...other than the obvious...

For tuba solo I think it would be important to indicate that one is
supposed to slap the instrument rather than the player.

-- 
David Kastrup

Re: Is there a glyph? (or something) to indicate a clap in a vocal piece?

[Kenneth Wolcott]

Hi;

  On a related note (pun not intended!) I have seen a Tuba solo score
where there is a notation to "slap" the instrument, shown as literally
a "slap" like a "rit." or ".cresc.". I was wondering how to engrave
that...other than the obvious...

Thanks,
Ken Wolcott

On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 1:01 PM Kevin Cole  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 1:47 PM Karlin High  wrote:
>
> > I have seen choral works use "X" note heads to indicate claps or
> > foot-stomps.
> >
> > The commands \xNotesOn and \xNotesOff seem worth trying.
> >
> > 
>
> Aaaand, we have a winner! ;-)
>
> (At least until I get to the MIDI, but I'm feeling confident that I
> know how to accomplish that part.)
>
> Just what the doctor ordered.
>
> Thanks!
>

Re: Is there a glyph? (or something) to indicate a clap in a vocal piece?

[Kevin Cole]

On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 1:47 PM Karlin High  wrote:

> I have seen choral works use "X" note heads to indicate claps or
> foot-stomps.
>
> The commands \xNotesOn and \xNotesOff seem worth trying.
>
> 

Aaaand, we have a winner! ;-)

(At least until I get to the MIDI, but I'm feeling confident that I
know how to accomplish that part.)

Just what the doctor ordered.

Thanks!

Re: Is there a glyph? (or something) to indicate a clap in a vocal piece?

[Karlin High]

On 10/16/2023 7:14 AM, Kevin Cole wrote:

there's a lyric "(clap)(clap)" with "X X" on the staff.


I have seen choral works use "X" note heads to indicate claps or 
foot-stomps.


The commands \xNotesOn and \xNotesOff seem worth trying.


--
Karlin High
Missouri, USA

Re: Is there a glyph? (or something) to indicate a clap in a vocal piece?

[David Kastrup]

Kevin Cole  writes:

> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 8:33 AM David Kastrup  wrote:
>>
>> Kevin Cole  writes:
>>
>> > I'm transcribing a pub song, and at one point, there's a lyric
>> > "(clap)(clap)" with "X X" on the staff.
>> >
>> > I've seen that one can have a "\drum {hc4 hc4}" but I want something like a
>> > layout of "| e4. a4. | X X g8 |" in 6/8 time all on one staff -- which I
>> > guess in MIDI would probably be something like "r8 hc8 r8 hc8 r4" in a drum
>> > track (voice?) for that measure with the claps...
>>
>> Something like
>>
>> \new OneStaff {
>>   \new Staff {
>> \time 6/8
>> e4. a4. |
>> \drums \with { \omit TimeSignature } { r8 hc8 r8 hc8 r4 } |
>> a2.
>>   }
>> }
>>
>> maybe ?
>
> Thanks. A step in the right direction, but now I have the lyrics in
> the center of the staff, and the "(clap) (clap)" in the lyrics
> skipping over the drum claps. See attached PNG. (Oh, I'm using "s8" in
> place of "r8" too, but I'm thinking that isn't a mistake, since I
> don't want rests to show up.) The minimum [non]-working example:
>
> %
> \score {
>   \new OneStaff {
> <<
>   \new Staff {
> \new Voice = "mel" { \melody }
>   }
>   \new Lyrics \lyricsto mel \words
> >>
>   }
> }
> %

Frankly, I must have completely misinterpreted your request.  It sounded
to me like you were talking about drum-style notes.  A OneStaff context
is for putting several contexts which usually would have their own lines
("vertical axis") into one.

Maybe you want to show a hand-drawn sketch of what you want because at
least I have no idea what we are talking about at this point of time.

-- 
David Kastrup

Re: Is there a glyph? (or something) to indicate a clap in a vocal piece?

[Kevin Cole]

On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 8:33 AM David Kastrup  wrote:
>
> Kevin Cole  writes:
>
> > I'm transcribing a pub song, and at one point, there's a lyric
> > "(clap)(clap)" with "X X" on the staff.
> >
> > I've seen that one can have a "\drum {hc4 hc4}" but I want something like a
> > layout of "| e4. a4. | X X g8 |" in 6/8 time all on one staff -- which I
> > guess in MIDI would probably be something like "r8 hc8 r8 hc8 r4" in a drum
> > track (voice?) for that measure with the claps...
>
> Something like
>
> \new OneStaff {
>   \new Staff {
> \time 6/8
> e4. a4. |
> \drums \with { \omit TimeSignature } { r8 hc8 r8 hc8 r4 } |
> a2.
>   }
> }
>
> maybe ?

Thanks. A step in the right direction, but now I have the lyrics in
the center of the staff, and the "(clap) (clap)" in the lyrics
skipping over the drum claps. See attached PNG. (Oh, I'm using "s8" in
place of "r8" too, but I'm thinking that isn't a mistake, since I
don't want rests to show up.) The minimum [non]-working example:

%
\score {
  \new OneStaff {
<<
  \new Staff {
\new Voice = "mel" { \melody }
  }
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto mel \words
>>
  }
}
%

Re: Is there a glyph? (or something) to indicate a clap in a vocal piece?

[David Kastrup]

Kevin Cole  writes:

> I'm transcribing a pub song, and at one point, there's a lyric
> "(clap)(clap)" with "X X" on the staff.
>
> I've seen that one can have a "\drum {hc4 hc4}" but I want something like a
> layout of "| e4. a4. | X X g8 |" in 6/8 time all on one staff -- which I
> guess in MIDI would probably be something like "r8 hc8 r8 hc8 r4" in a drum
> track (voice?) for that measure with the claps...

Something like

\new OneStaff {
  \new Staff {
\time 6/8
e4. a4. |
\drums \with { \omit TimeSignature } { r8 hc8 r8 hc8 r4 } |
a2.
  }
}

maybe ?

-- 
David Kastrup

Is there a glyph? (or something) to indicate a clap in a vocal piece?

[Kevin Cole]

I'm transcribing a pub song, and at one point, there's a lyric
"(clap)(clap)" with "X X" on the staff.

I've seen that one can have a "\drum {hc4 hc4}" but I want something like a
layout of "| e4. a4. | X X g8 |" in 6/8 time all on one staff -- which I
guess in MIDI would probably be something like "r8 hc8 r8 hc8 r4" in a drum
track (voice?) for that measure with the claps...