Re: LilyPond Downloads broken?

2018-03-14 Thread Phil Holmes 
- Original Message - 
From: "Urs Liska" <li...@openlilylib.org>
To: "Han-Wen Nienhuys" <hanw...@gmail.com>; "Phil Holmes" 
<m...@philholmes.net>
Cc: "lilypond-user" <lilypond-user@gnu.org>; "bug-lilypond" 
<bug-lilyp...@gnu.org>; "Jan Nieuwenhuizen" <jann...@gnu.org>

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: LilyPond Downloads broken?





Am 14.03.2018 um 11:19 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys:

You are correct on both counts.  The SSH key wasn't copied over to the
new server, and that's been a blessing since the account was
compromised.

Can you point the download link to lilypond.org directly? Bandwidth
prices have gone down in the last 10 years, so I think we should be
fine.


Should there be an archive of all previous releases like on linuxaudio.org 
or do we have to limit this to the current stable and development 
releases?



It's there as a part of the normal release process.  Historically I have 
deleted some of the source files, etc., to clear some space from an overfull 
disk.


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Re: LilyPond Downloads broken?

2018-03-14 Thread Urs Liska 



Am 14.03.2018 um 11:19 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys:

You are correct on both counts.  The SSH key wasn't copied over to the
new server, and that's been a blessing since the account was
compromised.

Can you point the download link to lilypond.org directly? Bandwidth
prices have gone down in the last 10 years, so I think we should be
fine.


Should there be an archive of all previous releases like on 
linuxaudio.org or do we have to limit this to the current stable and 
development releases?


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Re: LilyPond Downloads broken?

2018-03-14 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys 
You are correct on both counts.  The SSH key wasn't copied over to the
new server, and that's been a blessing since the account was
compromised.

Can you point the download link to lilypond.org directly? Bandwidth
prices have gone down in the last 10 years, so I think we should be
fine.

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Phil Holmes <m...@philholmes.net> wrote:
> The lack of the latest files on the linuxaudio site isn't something I can
> fix.  My understanding is that the situation used to be that lilypond.org
> used to run a cron job that scp'ed the binaries to linuxaudio.  However,
> this stopped working when a) Han-Wen changed the hosting of lilypond.org or
> b) there was a problem with linuxaudio and it had to be rebuilt.  I assume
> that there is not the correct certificate on the new lilypond.org system.
>
> The cron job was set up by Jan, and the login I use has no access to it.
>
> The simplest solution might be to change to simply pointing all downloads to
> the lilypond.org server.  I think we didn't do this in the past to lower the
> load on the server, but the new infrastructure might not see that as a
> problem.
>
> Copied to Jan and Han-Wen for their thoughts.
>
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>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Urs Liska
> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org ; bug-lilypond
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 3:00 PM
> Subject: Re: LilyPond Downloads broken?
>
> (Cross-posting to bug-lilypond)
>
>
> Am 07.02.2018 um 16:22 schrieb Phil Holmes:
>
> Available from http://lilypond.org/downloads/binaries/ currently.
>
>
> Any information on how long this situation will last? I think we should
> consider updating the website, even if it's temporary.
>
> Urs
>
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Re: LilyPond Downloads broken?

2018-03-07 Thread Phil Holmes 
a) Han-Wen
b) Jan

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Urs Liska 
  To: Phil Holmes ; lilypond-user@gnu.org ; bug-lilypond 
  Cc: Han-Wen Nienhuys ; Jan Nieuwenhuizen 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 3:22 PM
  Subject: Re: LilyPond Downloads broken?







  Am 07.03.2018 um 16:11 schrieb Phil Holmes:

The lack of the latest files on the linuxaudio site isn't something I can 
fix.  My understanding is that the situation used to be that lilypond.org used 
to run a cron job that scp'ed the binaries to linuxaudio.  However, this 
stopped working when a) Han-Wen changed the hosting of lilypond.org or b) there 
was a problem with linuxaudio and it had to be rebuilt. 


  I assume it was the latter. Somewhere I read a blog post about their server 
being hacked and completely rebuilt in a new infrastructure. Obviously our 
uploads don't work anymore since then.


I assume that there is not the correct certificate on the new lilypond.org 
system.

The cron job was set up by Jan, and the login I use has no access to it.

The simplest solution might be to change to simply pointing all downloads 
to the lilypond.org server.  I think we didn't do this in the past to lower the 
load on the server, but the new infrastructure might not see that as a problem.

  Well, at least currently it's the problem that the links point to a 404 error 
page. 
  a) Who knows whether it is acceptable to permanently host the binaries on 
lilypond.org (somehow I doubt that is an option)?
  b) Who knows how much work it will be to get the hosting on linuxaudio.org to 
be working again?
  If either a) is the way to go or b) is suspect of taking more time (than say, 
a few days) we should temporarily update the links on the download page.

  Urs



Copied to Jan and Han-Wen for their thoughts.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Urs Liska 
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org ; bug-lilypond 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 3:00 PM
  Subject: Re: LilyPond Downloads broken?


  (Cross-posting to bug-lilypond)



  Am 07.02.2018 um 16:22 schrieb Phil Holmes:

Available from http://lilypond.org/downloads/binaries/ currently.

  Any information on how long this situation will last? I think we should 
consider updating the website, even if it's temporary.

  Urs



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Re: LilyPond Downloads broken?

2018-03-07 Thread Urs Liska 



Am 07.03.2018 um 16:11 schrieb Phil Holmes:
The lack of the latest files on the linuxaudio site isn't something I 
can fix.  My understanding is that the situation used to be that 
lilypond.org used to run a cron job that scp'ed the binaries to 
linuxaudio.  However, this stopped working when a) Han-Wen changed the 
hosting of lilypond.org or b) there was a problem with linuxaudio and 
it had to be rebuilt.


I assume it was the latter. Somewhere I read a blog post about their 
server being hacked and completely rebuilt in a new infrastructure. 
Obviously our uploads don't work anymore since then.


I assume that there is not the correct certificate on the new 
lilypond.org system.

The cron job was set up by Jan, and the login I use has no access to it.
The simplest solution might be to change to simply pointing all 
downloads to the lilypond.org server.  I think we didn't do this in 
the past to lower the load on the server, but the new infrastructure 
might not see that as a problem.


Well, at least currently it's the problem that the links point to a 404 
error page.
a) Who knows whether it is acceptable to permanently host the binaries 
on lilypond.org (somehow I doubt that is an option)?
b) Who knows how much work it will be to get the hosting on 
linuxaudio.org to be working again?
If either a) is the way to go or b) is suspect of taking more time (than 
say, a few days) we should temporarily update the links on the download 
page.


Urs


Copied to Jan and Han-Wen for their thoughts.

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- Original Message -
*From:* Urs Liska <mailto:li...@openlilylib.org>
*To:* lilypond-user@gnu.org <mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org> ;
bug-lilypond <mailto:bug-lilyp...@gnu.org>
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 07, 2018 3:00 PM
    *Subject:* Re: LilyPond Downloads broken?

(Cross-posting to bug-lilypond)


Am 07.02.2018 um 16:22 schrieb Phil Holmes:

Available from http://lilypond.org/downloads/binaries/ currently.


Any information on how long this situation will last? I think we
should consider updating the website, even if it's temporary.

Urs


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Re: LilyPond Downloads broken?

2018-03-07 Thread Phil Holmes 
The lack of the latest files on the linuxaudio site isn't something I can fix.  
My understanding is that the situation used to be that lilypond.org used to run 
a cron job that scp'ed the binaries to linuxaudio.  However, this stopped 
working when a) Han-Wen changed the hosting of lilypond.org or b) there was a 
problem with linuxaudio and it had to be rebuilt.  I assume that there is not 
the correct certificate on the new lilypond.org system.

The cron job was set up by Jan, and the login I use has no access to it.

The simplest solution might be to change to simply pointing all downloads to 
the lilypond.org server.  I think we didn't do this in the past to lower the 
load on the server, but the new infrastructure might not see that as a problem.

Copied to Jan and Han-Wen for their thoughts.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Urs Liska 
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org ; bug-lilypond 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 3:00 PM
  Subject: Re: LilyPond Downloads broken?


  (Cross-posting to bug-lilypond)



  Am 07.02.2018 um 16:22 schrieb Phil Holmes:

Available from http://lilypond.org/downloads/binaries/ currently.

  Any information on how long this situation will last? I think we should 
consider updating the website, even if it's temporary.

  Urs



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Re: LilyPond Downloads broken?

2018-03-07 Thread Urs Liska 

(Cross-posting to bug-lilypond)


Am 07.02.2018 um 16:22 schrieb Phil Holmes:

Available from http://lilypond.org/downloads/binaries/ currently.


Any information on how long this situation will last? I think we should 
consider updating the website, even if it's temporary.


Urs
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Re: LilyPond Downloads broken?

2018-02-07 Thread Maarten van der Peet 
Thank you very much.

I subscribed to the list just for this question, after I entered an empty IRC 
channel.
Spooky. Didn't know IRC still existed.
:-)

Maarten


On 7 Feb 2018, at 16:22, Phil Holmes 
<m...@philholmes.net<mailto:m...@philholmes.net>> wrote:

Available from http://lilypond.org/downloads/binaries/ currently.

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- Original Message -
From: Maarten van der Peet<mailto:maarten.van.der.p...@meertens.knaw.nl>
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org<mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 9:42 AM
Subject: LilyPond Downloads broken?

Dear all,

there's something wrong with the dowloads.

>From http://lilypond.org/unix.html

I wanted to download the 64-bit version.

http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/linux-64/lilypond-2.18.2-1.linux-64.sh

Not Found
The requested URL /lilypond/binaries/linux-64/lilypond-2.18.2-1.linux-64.sh was 
not found on this server.

Apache/2.4.25 (Debian) Server at 
download.linuxaudio.org<http://download.linuxaudio.org> Port 80


The other links are also dead..

Regards,
Maarten van der Peet




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Re: LilyPond Downloads broken?

2018-02-07 Thread Phil Holmes 
Available from http://lilypond.org/downloads/binaries/ currently.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Maarten van der Peet 
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 9:42 AM
  Subject: LilyPond Downloads broken?


  Dear all,


  there's something wrong with the dowloads.


  From http://lilypond.org/unix.html


  I wanted to download the 64-bit version.


  
http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/linux-64/lilypond-2.18.2-1.linux-64.sh
 


  Not Found
  The requested URL /lilypond/binaries/linux-64/lilypond-2.18.2-1.linux-64.sh 
was not found on this server.


--

  Apache/2.4.25 (Debian) Server at download.linuxaudio.org Port 80




  The other links are also dead..


  Regards,
  Maarten van der Peet




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LilyPond Downloads broken?

2018-02-07 Thread Maarten van der Peet 
Dear all,

there's something wrong with the dowloads.

>From http://lilypond.org/unix.html

I wanted to download the 64-bit version.

http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/linux-64/lilypond-2.18.2-1.linux-64.sh

Not Found

The requested URL /lilypond/binaries/linux-64/lilypond-2.18.2-1.linux-64.sh was 
not found on this server.


Apache/2.4.25 (Debian) Server at download.linuxaudio.org Port 80


The other links are also dead..

Regards,
Maarten van der Peet

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