Lilypond-book and xelatex [was: Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3]

2010-03-02 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Graham Percival wrote: It would also be a great opportunity to include an option for alternative TeX-compilers, e.g. xelatex, not just pdflatex. Patches appreciated. Do you have a rough estimate of the challenges involved here? ___ lilypond-user

Re: Lilypond-book and xelatex [was: Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3]

2010-03-02 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 01:21:21PM +0100, Joseph Wakeling wrote: Graham Percival wrote: It would also be a great opportunity to include an option for alternative TeX-compilers, e.g. xelatex, not just pdflatex. Patches appreciated. Do you have a rough estimate of the challenges

Re: Lilypond-book and xelatex [was: Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3]

2010-03-02 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Graham Percival wrote: If you know python, or don't count time learning it towards the estaimte, then 5 hours for basic usability. Maybe 15 for using advanced xelatex stuff? Note that I don't know what the difference is between xelatex and pdflatex; I'm just going on the fact that they

Re: Lilypond-book and xelatex [was: Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3]

2010-03-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Joseph Wakeling wrote: Graham Percival wrote: If you know python, or don't count time learning it towards the estaimte, then 5 hours for basic usability. Maybe 15 for using advanced xelatex stuff? Note that I don't know what the difference is between xelatex and pdflatex; I'm just going

Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3

2010-03-01 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 01:52:26PM +0100, Joseph Wakeling wrote: Graham Percival wrote: Not in this case. Well, the point is that at least 1 user made the mistake of trying to get LP to use the 'latest' Python -- maybe worth adding a line or two mentioning not to do this and explaining

Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3

2010-02-28 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Graham Percival wrote: By the way, I estimate that switching all our scripts to python 3.x would take 40 hours, with an additional 20 hours required to make GUB include python 3.x in the installers. I'm not much of a Pythonist alas, never mind the complexity of teaching myself properly how the

Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3

2010-02-26 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
IIRC I saw a bunch of changes by Jan some time ago to make our scripts support both Python 2.x and 3.x - some of them may have inadvertently be reverted. I think it is possible to support both with some work, and some loss of neatness in the code. In particular, for one of the issues mentioned,

Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3

2010-02-26 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op vrijdag 26-02-2010 om 16:16 uur [tijdzone -0300], schreef Han-Wen Nienhuys: IIRC I saw a bunch of changes by Jan some time ago to make our scripts support both Python 2.x and 3.x That's in GUB. I'm not sure if doing it for lilypond is quite that easy. If someone's interested, look at try

Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3

2010-02-26 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Freitag, 26. Februar 2010 20:16:11 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: IIRC I saw a bunch of changes by Jan some time ago to make our scripts support both Python 2.x and 3.x - some of them may have inadvertently be reverted. I think it is possible to support both with some work, and some loss of

Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3

2010-02-26 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op vrijdag 26-02-2010 om 20:39 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Reinhold Kainhofer: Am Freitag, 26. Februar 2010 20:16:11 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: There are some incompatible changes Yes, quite a few of them. So if you're interested look at the solutions for those made in GUB. Greetings, Jan.

Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3

2010-02-26 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Freitag, 26. Februar 2010 20:52:51 schrieben Sie: Op vrijdag 26-02-2010 om 20:39 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Reinhold Kainhofer: Am Freitag, 26. Februar 2010 20:16:11 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: There are some incompatible changes Yes, quite a few of them. So if you're interested

Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3

2010-02-26 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op vrijdag 26-02-2010 om 21:23 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Reinhold Kainhofer: Am Freitag, 26. Februar 2010 20:52:51 schrieben Sie: Op vrijdag 26-02-2010 om 20:39 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Reinhold Hmm, I don't see how I could easily write code (or different included files like in

Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3

2010-02-25 Thread Sven Siegmund
Hello, I work on Microsoft Windows 7 (64 bit), have MiKTeX 2.8 and lilypond 2.12.3 installed and lilypond-book worked fine until I installed Python 3.1.1. Not knowing that Lilypond provides python 2.4.5 I was surprised that after I installed Python 3.1.1 and ran python, an older version of

Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3

2010-02-25 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Sven Siegmund wrote: Hello, I work on Microsoft Windows 7 (64 bit), have MiKTeX 2.8 and lilypond 2.12.3 installed and lilypond-book worked fine until I installed Python 3.1.1. Not knowing that Lilypond provides python 2.4.5 I was surprised that after I installed Python 3.1.1 and ran

Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3

2010-02-25 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Uninstall python 3, as it can override library paths. Sven Siegmund wrote: Hello, I work on Microsoft Windows 7 (64 bit), have MiKTeX 2.8 and lilypond 2.12.3 installed and lilypond-book worked fine until I installed Python 3.1.1. Not knowing that Lilypond provides python 2.4.5 I was

Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3

2010-02-25 Thread Sven Siegmund
Uninstall python 3, as it can override library paths. But I really need Python 3. It is much more unicode-aware than Python 2.x. Is there any hope that Lilypond-book will be ported to python 3? Python 3 has been over a year around, so maybe it's time to adapt the source code of lilypond-book a

Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3

2010-02-25 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Sven Siegmund wrote: Uninstall python 3, as it can override library paths. But I really need Python 3. It is much more unicode-aware than Python 2.x. Is there any hope that Lilypond-book will be ported to python 3? Python 3 has been over a year around, so maybe it's time to adapt the source

Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3

2010-02-25 Thread Sven Siegmund
I know that Python 3 and Python 2.x are two different worlds, and that there are so many changes that must be done to the code that it would mean to program lilypond-book again from scratch in Python 3, even more if we consider that there is need to enhance its functionality and make it work with

Re: Lilypond-book not working after installing Python 3

2010-02-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:16:05PM +0100, Sven Siegmund wrote: Uninstall python 3, as it can override library paths. But I really need Python 3. It is much more unicode-aware than Python 2.x. Is there any hope that Lilypond-book will be ported to python 3? Patches appreciated. Python 3