Re: Misleading autobeaming in 3/4

2011-08-17 Thread Urs Liska
Am 17.08.2011 07:15, schrieb Vaughan McAlley: Bertrand Bordage wrote: Ok, I'll keep LilyPond's default beaming since it's the usual notation. Thanks! Bertrand No! Beam it how _you_ like. Otherwise it’s like using Times font just because it’s the Microsoft Word default :-) Just say you’re

Re: Misleading autobeaming in 3/4

2011-08-16 Thread -Eluze
block or maybe in the -dinclude-settings)!? So I guess I don't see the reason for the fuss, nor any reason to consider bug reports etc. +++ cheers Eluze -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Misleading-autobeaming-in-3-4-tp32257336p32275640.html Sent from the Gnu

Re: Misleading autobeaming in 3/4

2011-08-16 Thread Vaughan McAlley
Bertrand Bordage wrote: Ok, I'll keep LilyPond's default beaming since it's the usual notation. Thanks! Bertrand No! Beam it how _you_ like. Otherwise it’s like using Times font just because it’s the Microsoft Word default :-) Just say you’re following Debussy... I ran into a similar problem

Re: Misleading autobeaming in 3/4

2011-08-15 Thread Damian leGassick
sorry to be a pedant, but... traditionally, 4. [8 8 8] is the exception to the rule that you subdivide the 8ths 2,2,2 in a 3/4 bar Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, Schubert, Chopin, Liszt, Brahms and Ravel do this consistently. It is also normal for Debussy apart from in the late violin sonata .

Re: Misleading autobeaming in 3/4

2011-08-15 Thread David Kastrup
Damian leGassick damianlegass...@mac.com writes: I'm sorry to contradict David but you'll be hard pushed to find many published examples of 4. 8 [8 8] that don't have mitigating phrasing circumstances. If you take a look at the comments of the bug report, you'll see that you come in second

Re: Misleading autobeaming in 3/4

2011-08-15 Thread Craig
Hi Damian, I am looking at my copy of the famous Scherzo opus 4 of Brahms. (Kalmus Edition) The beaming is clearly r4 r8 8[ 8 8] all over the place, since the main them is r4 r8 8[ 8 8]. I see this as an expediting right hand of Mr. Brahms, I bet 100 euros that the original manuscript is beamed

Re: Misleading autobeaming in 3/4

2011-08-15 Thread James Harkins
At Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:00:20 -0400, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: Subject: Re: Misleading autobeaming in 3/4 I am looking at my copy of the famous Scherzo opus 4 of Brahms. (Kalmus Edition) The beaming is clearly r4 r8 8[ 8 8] all over the place, since the main them is r4 r8 8[ 8 8

Re: Misleading autobeaming in 3/4

2011-08-14 Thread Bertrand Bordage
Ok, I'll keep LilyPond's default beaming since it's the usual notation. Thanks! Bertrand ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Misleading autobeaming in 3/4

2011-08-14 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 8/13/11 2:55 PM, Bertrand Bordage bordage.bertr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone! (I don't know if we can call this a defect, so I don't send it to bug-lilypond for the moment) I am working on a 3/4 score with this rhythmical pattern in the beginning : 4. 8 8 8. It is repeated five

Re: Misleading autobeaming in 3/4

2011-08-14 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 8/13/11 2:55 PM, Bertrand Bordage bordage.bertr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone! (I don't know if we can call this a defect, so I don't send it to bug-lilypond for the moment) I am working on a 3/4 score with this rhythmical pattern in the

Re: Misleading autobeaming in 3/4

2011-08-14 Thread Craig
On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 12:00 -0400, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: So the defaults should look like [8 8 8 8 8 8] and even [8. 16 8 8 8 8], but 4. [8 8 8] is wrong and needs to be 4. 8 [8 8] instead. 6/8 would have [8 8 8] [8 8 8], [8. 16 8] [8 8 8] and 4. [8 8 8], respectively. --

Misleading autobeaming in 3/4

2011-08-13 Thread Bertrand Bordage
Hi everyone! (I don't know if we can call this a defect, so I don't send it to bug-lilypond for the moment) I am working on a 3/4 score with this rhythmical pattern in the beginning : 4. 8 8 8. It is repeated five times, but the rest of the score is clearly in 3/4 and not 6/8, contrary to what

Re: Misleading autobeaming in 3/4

2011-08-13 Thread Damian leGassick
checking my Chopin and Brahms, they both notate your rhythm as lilypond defaults, so it's not a defect - i'm certainly used to seeing it notated like that in 3/4 to my eyes your desired version looks wrong, but if that's really what you want, then using [ and ] or \noBeam as and when is