Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-11 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Urs, I was just curious what the lilypond-export OLL-module (https://github.com/jpvoigt/lilypond-export/) is doing with this pattern. It seems the final beam closing is not fetched correctly. At least in MuseScore the last note with automatic beams is not beamed. Best Jan-Peter Am

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-11 Thread Patrick Hubers
Dorico imports these as intended Op 5-5-2018 om 08:25 schreef Urs Liska: ... So I'd be happy if people could import the attached .xml file to Finale, Sibelius and (if possible) Dorico, and tell me about the results. Also attached is the reference image of what it should look like. (Note

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-07 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Thanks Simon, I’ll have something quite interesting to read in the forthcoming time! JM > Le 7 mai 2018 à 20:08, Simon Albrecht a écrit : > > On 07.05.2018 18:51, Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote: >> Would it be a reasonable approach to have LilyPond first produce data in >>

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-07 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 07.05.2018 18:51, Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote: Would it be a reasonable approach to have LilyPond first produce data in memory, i.e. Scheme data representing the whole score, and then either to produce the score or a MIDI file or supply this data to other applications, such as a MusicXML

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-07 Thread lists
7. Mai 2018 18:51, "Jacques Menu Muzhic" schrieb: > Would it be a reasonable approach to have LilyPond first produce data in > memory, i.e. Scheme data > representing the whole score, and then either to produce the score or a MIDI > file or supply this > data to other

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-07 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Would it be a reasonable approach to have LilyPond first produce data in memory, i.e. Scheme data representing the whole score, and then either to produce the score or a MIDI file or supply this data to other applications, such as a MusicXML exporter? Of course this would mean a lot of work.

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.05.2018 um 18:13 schrieb Jacques Menu Muzhic: Hello Urs, With the LP code: { c'8 [ d' e' f' ] } what is the difficulty for producing markups in the MusicXML output? None. This works now (although the Pull Request hasn't been merged. What does *not* work is producing beams in

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-07 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello Urs, With the LP code: { c'8 [ d' e' f' ] } what is the difficulty for producing markups in the MusicXML output? JM > Le 6 mai 2018 à 12:20, Urs Liska a écrit : > > > > Am 6. Mai 2018 12:08:39 MESZ schrieb Jacques Menu Muzhic > : >>

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-06 Thread Urs Liska
Am 6. Mai 2018 12:08:39 MESZ schrieb Jacques Menu Muzhic : >I’m not familiar with python.ly ’s internals: does >it use LP’s internal description, shown below by \displayMusic? No, it parses the input file(s) - which points to the single most

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-06 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
I’m not familiar with python.ly ’s internals: does it use LP’s internal description, shown below by \displayMusic? Starting lilypond 2.19.80 [nobeam.ly]... Processing `/var/folders/jc/xrpy67_x6_vcjfzpzds_9_6mgn/T/frescobaldi-nx6e_mso/tmp2kwa263p/nobeam.ly' Parsing...

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-06 Thread Urs Liska
Am 06.05.2018 um 11:43 schrieb Jacques Menu Muzhic: Hello Urs, musicsml2ly and Finale 2014 behave as expected, but MuseScore 2.2.1 produces beams in both cases, i.e. even when there are no beams in the MusicXML data. OK, that seems that between 2.1.0 and 2.2.1 MuseScore has added that

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-06 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
The « bug » seems to have been introduced since MuseScore 2.2.x: 2.1.0 behaves as expected. JM > Le 6 mai 2018 à 11:51, Martin Tarenskeen a écrit : > > > > On Sun, 6 May 2018, Urs Liska wrote: > >> Attached you'll find a simple nobeam.ly and the file nobeam.xml,

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-06 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Sun, 6 May 2018, Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote: musicsml2ly and Finale 2014 behave as expected, but MuseScore 2.2.1 produces beams in both cases, i.e. even when there are no beams in the MusicXML data. Strange… My guess is that MuseScore does things it isn't supposed to do. Which can

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-06 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Sun, 6 May 2018, Urs Liska wrote: Attached you'll find a simple nobeam.ly and the file nobeam.xml, which is the result from exporting with the current master of python-ly. This will be opened without beams in MuseScore 2. I am getting beams in MuseScore 2.2.1, Linux Fedora 28.

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-06 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello Urs, musicsml2ly and Finale 2014 behave as expected, but MuseScore 2.2.1 produces beams in both cases, i.e. even when there are no beams in the MusicXML data. Strange… JM > Le 6 mai 2018 à 11:09, Urs Liska a écrit : > > Hello Jacques, > > > Am 06.05.2018 um

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-06 Thread Urs Liska
Hello Jacques, Am 06.05.2018 um 10:11 schrieb Jacques Menu Muzhic: Hello Urs, I’m doing tests with MusicXML, could you send me an example where MuseScore doesn’t show any beams after exporting from LilyPond? Attached you'll find a simple nobeam.ly and the file nobeam.xml, which is the

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-06 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello Urs, I’m doing tests with MusicXML, could you send me an example where MuseScore doesn’t show any beams after exporting from LilyPond? Thanks! JM > Le 5 mai 2018 à 11:50, li...@openlilylib.org a écrit : > > Hi Torsten, > > 5. Mai 2018 11:44, "Torsten Hämmerle"

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-06 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello, Not sure whether this helps: removing: continue from the file, MuseScore 2.2.1 produces: Finale 2014 produces: and musicxml2ly produces: musicxml2ly: Reading MusicXML from O5beamWithoutBeamNumberContinue.xml_inter.xml ... musicxml2ly: Converting to

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-05 Thread lists
Hi Torsten, 5. Mai 2018 11:44, "Torsten Hämmerle" schrieb: > Hi Urs, > > Sibelius works fine: > > > Thanks. > > As my Dorico evaluation period has expired, I can't even start it. > All the

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-05 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
Hi Urs, Sibelius works fine: As my Dorico evaluation period has expired, I can't even start it. All the others allow testing w/o save/export functionality, but Steinberg is much more restrictive in that respect. All the

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-05 Thread Thomas Weber
Sibelius 8.1.1 creates exactly the same beaming. Am 05.05.2018 um 09:38 schrieb Robert Blackstone: > Hi Urs, > > This is what your file produces with Finale 2024.5, on a MacBook with > OSX 10.9.5. > > > > (I should have compressed it a bit.) > > Best regards, > >

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-05 Thread Urs Liska
Hi Robert, thanks for testing. Given that I'm not interested in the *looks* of it this is what I hoped to get :-) Thanks Urs Am 05.05.2018 um 09:38 schrieb Robert Blackstone: Hi Urs, This is what your file produces with Finale 2024.5, on a MacBook with OSX 10.9.5. (I should have

Re: Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-05 Thread Robert Blackstone
Hi Urs, This is what your file produces with Finale 2024.5, on a MacBook with OSX 10.9.5. 05-beam_Finale_2014_5.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document (I should have compressed it a bit.) Best regards, Robert Blackstone > Hi, > > I'm trying to add support to python-ly for exporting manual

Need someone testing XML file in Finale and Sibelius (and Dorico)

2018-05-05 Thread Urs Liska
Hi, I'm trying to add support to python-ly for exporting manual beams to MusicXML. I managed to export the commands to start and end a beam, but that's not sufficient. In theory (https://usermanuals.musicxml.com/MusicXML/Content/EL-MusicXML-beam.htm) the beaming pattern is described in