Re: Biographies (was: OT: Beauty of programming languages)

Hey David, I saw this about work you've done on the emacs Lilypond mode. Is the new code base available anywhere and is it usable? On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 7:37 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > > Nam Sibyllam quidem Cumis ego ipse > oculis meis vidi in ampulle pendere, et cum >

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Am 21.09.2015 um 12:13 schrieb bart deruyter: > My turn :-) > Very interesting thoughts, thank you! Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

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My turn :-) I'm 40, started using lilypond a couple of years ago, I think in 2012, not sure actually. I play guitar as first instrument and teach it in non-traditional schools, mainly because I don't have the qualifications on paper and now it's too late/expensive/time_consuming to get one. I

Biographies (was: OT: Beauty of programming languages)

Nam Sibyllam quidem Cumis ego ipse oculis meis vidi in ampulle pendere, et cum illi pueri dicerent: Σίβυλλα τί θέλεις; respondebat illa: άποθανεΐν θέλω. [I saw myself with my own eyes the Cumaean Sibyl hanging in a bottle, and when the boys said to her "Sibyl, what's your

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Here I come, 50's :) Instruments: keyboards and acoustic guitar. Started using Lilypond in combination with Sublime Text 2 in 2013 to typeset my own music, after getting frustrated with Sibelius. I have learned about Lilypond through Steinberg's blog on their new notation software. Currently

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

Greetings (from Pondicherry, India) Age: 59 My first degree was in Mathematics, and then I migrated to Linguistics (or rather to the History of Linguistics, which I see as part of the "History of Science"). This is the domain where I did my Ph.D (in the eighties). I am a researcher (at

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

Hello Jean-Luc, > Le 16 sept. 2015 à 06:24, Jean-Luc Chevillard > a écrit : > > I have never used Frescobaldi (I am not sure what it is, but I see it > mentionned frequently on the list) and write my .ly files using a text editor > (I currently use NotePad+)

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I am 54 years old and work as software developer. Playing harp is my hobby. I perform solo, in ensemble and in orchestras. I used NoteWorthy Composer for a few years, tried MusixTex for a short period of time and use Lilypond since many years. In most cases I typeset music for harp, harp

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> > On 2015-08-26 22:10, Urs Liska wrote: > >> This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond users >>> >and >>> >developers? >>> >> Remind me in two weeks and I'll start a poll on Scores of Beauty > > Greetings - Age: 67 Occupation: Retired. I worked for many years (~25) in

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Age: 44 Occupation: I teach arts and technology at New College, The University of Alabama. Music: I’m a composer and performer. Most of my compositions use live electronics in some way, usually via Cycling ‘74 Max. These works often have little or no traditionally notated material for the

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I’m in my early 40s, and started using LilyPond in early 2011. I love LilyPond’s flexibility and extensibility which lets me create sheet music in alternative notation systems that have a “chromatic staff” – especially “Clairnote”[1]. LilyPond is in a league of its own for this kind of

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g > Date: 09/14/2015 02:26 AM > Subject: Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages > > Alexander Kobel <n...@a-kobel.de> writes: > > > On 2015-09-12 02:17, Tim Reeves wrote: > >> > Am 11.09.2015 um 20:17 schrieb David Bellows: > >> > > U

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On 14/09/15 21:42, Tim Reeves wrote: > Well, as a hornist, I reckon my instrument of choice is a lot closer to > a "vague pointing instrument" than to a keyboard instrument! Sometimes > when I point it this way it goes the other way. In reality, it depends > more on my lips etc. than on my

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/09/15 22:01, Wols Lists wrote: > On 14/09/15 21:42, Tim Reeves wrote: >> Well, as a hornist, I reckon my instrument of choice is a lot >> closer to a "vague pointing instrument" than to a keyboard >> instrument! Sometimes when I point it this

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On 2015-09-12 02:17, Tim Reeves wrote: > Am 11.09.2015 um 20:17 schrieb David Bellows: > > Urs, I'd still like to see a poll or at least all the answers > > collected and analyzed etc. > > I didn't intend to drop that poll idea. > But I find this thread very interesting and also touching,

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Forgot to say I use Frescobaldi. -Paul ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

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> Working with those commercial tools is discouraging to me, too much mouse > fine-tuning of details! I had actually started with Finale 3.0 long ago, and… finally gave it, licence and all, to a friend who was studying music. There were about 45 tools in the palettes at the time to perform the

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Leszek Wroński writes: > I have recently discovered Frescobaldi and I have to say that for big > scores its "click at the score to put the source editor in the correct > place" functionality is very efficient. Well, this should work with a number of editors and previewers if

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Alexander Kobel writes: > On 2015-09-12 02:17, Tim Reeves wrote: >> > Am 11.09.2015 um 20:17 schrieb David Bellows: >> > > Urs, I'd still like to see a poll or at least all the answers >> > > collected and analyzed etc. >> > >> > I didn't intend to drop that poll idea. >>

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45 years old Day job: Chemist (like Borodin!) Started with computers in the days of the VIC-20. Went through several BASIC interpreter computers. Work with both Windows (work) and Mac (home) now. Work use includes some programming in high level BASIC-like languages, and some rudimentary

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While we are at it Age 73 - Married - North of England previous life Senior Scientific Oficer - Heat Transfer Mechanical Engineering Degree Struggling clarinet player and general music lover Started producing music scores using NoteWorthy Composer Graduated to LilyPond some years ago - still

Re: Fwd: Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

files for a 3 part "power trio" - a treble part, a bass part, and a 2 stave drum kit. From there I use AcidPRO to create mp3's files to hear, in a general way, the way the music sounds. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Fwd-Re-OT-Beauty-of-p

Re: Fwd: Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

/Fwd-Re-OT-Beauty-of-programming-languages-tp181025p181093.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

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Edward Ardzinski writes: > Lilypond's set up immediately hooked me, I really have never used any > other manuscript programs, so my perspective is probably pretty > limited. And unique - as a programmer I created my own text > editor...now that the source code is

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On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Flaming Hakama by Elaine < ela...@flaminghakama.com> wrote: > > Started composing in high school in the 1890s, > > Really? Wow! (1980s?) Ralph -- Ralph Palmer Brattleboro, VT USA palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com ___

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44 years old Day job: web development, mostly JavaScript these days, but I've used quite a number of others over the years (including APL). Started composing in high school in the 1890s, primarily Jazz and chamber music, with some larger works. I've been using Lilypond to produce scores for

Re: Fwd: Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 59 year old system manager with a background in system programming, down to assembly language. Generally I dislike GUIs, so vi + Lily is "sweet music to my ears", though I do admit to Frescobaldi on occasions. I use it for a little composing, more

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> > Martin Tarenskeen wrote: > >> This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond users > >> and developers? 47! I've used LilyPond from the very first versions back in 1996. Actually, I first used the MPP (MusiXTeX PreProcessor) by Han-Wen and Jan and then started to test

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

63 years old, recently retired computer scientist, and an amateur double reed player after playing the double bass for some time. Started with LP 2.12, across which I came looking for a LaTeX complement for producing scores. After using TextMate on Mac OS X I switched to Frescobaldi some time

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

I'm 19 years old and a student of Music at the University of Birmingham. I started to dabble in Lilypond a few years ago when it piqued my interest. Nowadays I use it for engraving composition work and musical examples for essays and other written work. I find Lilypond really useful because I can

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

>>> This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond users I'm ~30 years age. Background: At first using Music Sculptor(for about two years), then Note Worthy(For about 2 years), then Finale(for about 6 years) and then a rather abrupt transition(not being a programmer at all) to

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

PMA wrote: PMA wrote: Martin Tarenskeen wrote: This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond users and developers? My average age is 75. Better answer -- My age is 75. I've been using Lilypond for ca 5 years, without an editor (other than VI), and entirely for original

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

Briefly- Age: 75, using LilyPond since 2003, many Mutopia submissions which others have updated. Most challenging project (2003-2004): Joseph Archer's parlor piano transcription of his "Alice, Where Art Thou?." Mutopia was my example and teacher back then. I'm a retired physics teacher,

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PMA wrote: Martin Tarenskeen wrote: This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond users and developers? My average age is 75. Better answer -- My age is 75. I've been using Lilypond for ca 5 years, without an editor (other than VI), and entirely for original compositions.

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I'm 57. Full-time orchestra musician (bass trombone). I've been using LilyPond for at least 12 years, maybe longer. First heard of it when there was an announcement on the MusiXTeX list that version 0.0.1(?) was released having grown from being a pre-processor to MusiXTeX. It still

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MING TSANG writes: > I'm 68 years old and an IBM mainframe programmer using COBOL. Now retired. > I've been using Lilypond since v1.12. One of the reason I choose > lilypond because it supports UTF-8 for lyrics. Now I am gladly using > V2.18.2 and V2.19.26. > I sing in a

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I'm 68 years old and an IBM mainframe programmer using COBOL. Now retired. I've been using Lilypond since v1.12. One of the reason I choose lilypond because it supports UTF-8 for lyrics. Now I am gladly using V2.18.2 and V2.19.26. I sing in a choir.  Time and time, we were given photocopy music

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I guess I had better join in this "off"-topic. I use Lilypond and Emacs on Ubuntu 12.04. I previously use Score for the flute-and-harp arrangements that my former partner and I used to publish. I found learning to use Lilypond effectively much harder to than Score was. It's always much easier

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

On 12/09/15 13:24, David Kastrup wrote: > Depends on the composer's date of death and whether you are transcribing > editorial annotations as well or just sticking to the Urtext. "we were > given photocopy music sheet" does not exactly sound a lot more legal > either, though I have indeed (from

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

Le 10/09/2015 15:00, Peter Bjuhr a écrit : On 2015-08-26 22:10, Urs Liska wrote: This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond users and developers? Remind me in two weeks and I'll start a poll on Scores of Beauty ... I send in this reminder not because I'm especially

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

I'm 72. I started using Lilypond because it's free, and easy to use for a quick-and-dirty job. I've continued to use it for its ability to set Renaissance music: scholarly appendages to notes, incipits, Petrucci style breves and longs, indefinite length terminal longs... It's a lot better than

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

Urs, I'd still like to see a poll or at least all the answers collected and analyzed etc. Me: 46-year-old composer. I use Lilypond for all my scores. I've used off and on for 10 years(?) but every day for the past 3 years. I started using it because it was free, produced excellent scores, and

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 08:12:41PM +0200, Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote: > Le 10/09/2015 15:00, Peter Bjuhr a écrit : > > > > > >On 2015-08-26 22:10, Urs Liska wrote: > >>>This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond users > >>>and developers? > >>Remind me in two weeks and I'll

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Am 11.09.2015 um 20:17 schrieb David Bellows: > Urs, I'd still like to see a poll or at least all the answers > collected and analyzed etc. I didn't intend to drop that poll idea. But I find this thread very interesting and also touching, and it should not be just buried in the mailing list

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I’m a 68 year-old retired GP. I took up guitar aged 15, playing folk and rock stuff by ear, although I had learned piano long enough in primary school to know what a staff looked like, and I played in folk clubs and bands until medicine took over. After a long career break(!), I took up guitar

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I assume this was intended for the list. Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Martin Tarenskeen <m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl> Gesendet: 11. September 2015 23:09:32 MESZ An: Urs Liska <u...@openlilylib.org> Betreff: Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages > But I find t

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I’m 60 and I program for a living. I have been using lilypond almost from the time it first came out. I mainly use it for typesetting medieval and renaissance music, sometimes from original notation or for re-typsetting poorly typeset editions. I have contributed some minor enhancements and bug

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

So far, in the small, non-random sample we have, it looks like the average user's age is somewhere around 60. I guess you can teach old dogs new tricks! ;) OK, I'm 77. I use Lilypond only to engrave fiddle tunes for my own use. Be well, Jonathan

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I am 84. Wrote my first programme in 1965. Didn't keep it up because I wasn't fast enough to earn money at it. Did some Pascal programming later. Interesting utilities, now all out of date. Started using Lilypond and Frescobaldi about nine months ago on ubuntu. I make music sheets for

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

On 2015-09-11 06:17 PM, Tim Reeves wrote: So far, in the small, non-random sample we have, it looks like the average user's age is somewhere around 60. I guess you can teach old dogs new tricks! ;) It has been said that the way to avoid becoming an old dog is to keep learning new

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> Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 22:22:45 +0200 > From: Urs Liska <u...@openlilylib.org> > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages > Message-ID: <55f33815.40...@openlilylib.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows

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I'm a 48 year old school teacher (Mathematics and Computing). I'm also the pianist in a jazz ensemble, which is what keeps me using Lilypond - re-scoring pieces for which we have mainly hand-written scores (some of them atrociously scribbled down). I used to mainly use jEdit/LilyPondTool,

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On 10/09/15 19:59, Tim Reeves wrote: > Age: 49 > Amateur hornist. > Typesetting of existing parts, occasionally creating simple exercises, > fingering charts, etc. Not a regular user, but like to keep up on > development. > I use Frescobaldi every time for some time now, and I've been using LP >

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PMA wrote Thursday, September 10, 2015 7:21 PM > PMA wrote: >> Martin Tarenskeen wrote: >>> This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond users >>> and developers? > > Better answer -- My age is 75. At 74 I thought I might be the oldest user/developer, but it seems I'm not.

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41, organist, composer frequently for the church, sometimes commissioned works for special occasions and sometimes for self amusement. I use LilyPond to set the above, and sometimes to typeset stuff that has survived the ravages of time poorly causing the desire to have a cleaner score to work

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Seems I have to chime in instead of preparing a merely statistical poll ... 42, pianist, musicologist (with half a decade's worth intermezzo of electronic music. Unfortunately that was just before my Lilypond/programming time, I already had some ideas to try generating LilyPond input from

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On 2015-08-26 22:10, Urs Liska wrote: This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond users >and >developers? Remind me in two weeks and I'll start a poll on Scores of Beauty ... I send in this reminder not because I'm especially interested in ages, but it would be

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Hello all, Just in case this doesn’t make it to the poll stage… >>> This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond users and >>> developers? >> Remind me in two weeks and I'll start a poll on Scores of Beauty ... > I send in this reminder not because I'm especially interested

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On 2015-09-10 15:57, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Just in case this doesn’t make it to the poll stage… >>>This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond users and developers? >>Remind me in two weeks and I'll start a poll on Scores of Beauty ... >I send in this reminder not

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Am 10.09.2015 um 15:00 schrieb Peter Bjuhr: On 2015-08-26 22:10, Urs Liska wrote: This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond users >and >developers? Remind me in two weeks and I'll start a poll on Scores of Beauty ... I send in this reminder not because I'm especially

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: 1 > Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 19:26:24 +0200 > From: Simon Albrecht <simon.albre...@mail.de> > To: Peter Bjuhr <peterbj...@gmail.com>, lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages > Message-ID: <55f1bd40.3020...@mail.de> > Content-Type: t

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PMA wrote: PMA wrote: Martin Tarenskeen wrote: This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond users and developers? My average age is 75. Better answer -- My age is 75. I've been using Lilypond for ca 5 years, without an editor (other than VI), and entirely for original

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On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Nathan, > >> Most music I work with now is not conventionally notated, >> so I haven't found much use for LilyPond recently. > > What kinds of things do you do? > How *is* it notated? > > You may be the

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I'm still a LilyPond newbie... As a retired Bell Labs engineer, I can honestly say that I have found LilyPond to be harder than learning vi, troff/nroff, and shell scripts. (Maybe it's age, maybe it's having been out of the field for 7+ years, or maybe it's just that I was never an actual

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Hi, I’m now 42, singer/songwriter and collector of German and international folk music. Former scout and LARP bard. Otherwise media designer and programmer. I’m using LilyPond on OSX since summer 2005, previously with different editors (Smultron, TextWrangler, Eclipse), since maybe two years

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[...] > > On Sep 10, 2015, at 7:00 AM, Peter Bjuhr wrote: > > > > On 2015-08-26 22:10, Urs Liska wrote: > >>> This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond > >>> users and developers? > >> Remind me in two weeks and I'll start a poll on Scores of Beauty

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Hi Nathan, > Most music I work with now is not conventionally notated, > so I haven't found much use for LilyPond recently. What kinds of things do you do? How *is* it notated? You may be the perfect [kind of] person to help make her the best notation application ever. =) Cheers, Kieren.

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On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Tim Reeves wrote: > Age: 49 > Amateur hornist. > Typesetting of existing parts, occasionally creating simple exercises, > fingering charts, etc. Not a regular user, but like to keep up on > development. > I use Frescobaldi every time

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PMA wrote: Martin Tarenskeen wrote: This thread makes me wonder: what's the average age of LilyPond users and developers? My average age is 75. Better answer -- My age is 75. I've been using Lilypond for ca 5 years, without an editor (other than VI), and entirely for original compositions.

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- Original Message - From: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org To: Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com Cc: LilyPond User Group lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 4:23 PM Subject: Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com writes

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Am 26. August 2015 15:38:17 MESZ, schrieb Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@gmail.com: On Wed, 26 Aug 2015, David Kastrup wrote: In the APL course I took years ago, the teacher said: « Exercice for the I recall that crucial to APL was its interactive environment. We had Still have a

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Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com writes: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org wrote: Of David Kastrup Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 8:24 AM To: Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com Cc: LilyPond User Group lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: OT: Beauty

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages (was: Way to flatten nested \include's?)

On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 18:41:54 +0200 Jacques Menu imj-muz...@bluewin.ch wrote: In the APL course I took years ago, the teacher said: « Exercice for the next two weeks : find out what this sample program (25 symbols altogether) does. A guy says two weeks later: « It does this and that… but it

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Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl writes: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 18:41:54 +0200 Jacques Menu imj-muz...@bluewin.ch wrote: In the APL course I took years ago, the teacher said: « Exercice for the next two weeks : find out what this sample program (25 symbols altogether) does. A guy says two

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1€ question for the young : whom does EWD stand for, and did he bring to computer science? JM Le 26 août 2015 à 13:12, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org a écrit : Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl writes: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 18:41:54 +0200 Jacques Menu imj-muz...@bluewin.ch wrote: In the

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

On Wed, 26 Aug 2015, David Kastrup wrote: In the APL course I took years ago, the teacher said: « Exercice for the I recall that crucial to APL was its interactive environment. We had Still have a COMPASS manual around. Put it up to Ebay at minimum starting price, but no takers. :-)

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On Wed, 26 Aug 2015, Andrew Bernard wrote: Writing by hand with a fountain pen. Look it up folks! I looked it up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edsger_W._Dijkstra 1€ question for the young : whom does EWD stand for, and did he bring to computer science? --

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Writing by hand with a fountain pen. Look it up folks! Andrew On 26/08/2015 23:30, Jacques Menu lilypond-user-bounces+andrew.bernard=gmail@gnu.org on behalf of imj-muz...@bluewin.ch wrote: 1€ question for the young : whom does EWD stand for, and did he bring to computer science?

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So I owe you 1€: what is you IBAN? JM Le 26 août 2015 à 15:50, Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@gmail.com a écrit : On Wed, 26 Aug 2015, Andrew Bernard wrote: Writing by hand with a fountain pen. Look it up folks! I looked it up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edsger_W._Dijkstra

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Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com writes: lilypond-user-bounces+andrew.bernard=gmail@gnu.org on behalf of imj-muz...@bluewin.ch wrote: 1€ question for the young : whom does EWD stand for, and did he bring to computer science? Writing by hand with a fountain pen. Look it up folks!

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Jacques Menu imj-muz...@bluewin.ch writes: 1€ question for the young : whom does EWD stand for, and did he bring to computer science? 5 forks. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

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I am older and know the answer. Am I eligible? Andrew On 26/08/2015 23:30, Jacques Menu lilypond-user-bounces+andrew.bernard=gmail@gnu.org on behalf of imj-muz...@bluewin.ch wrote: 1€ question for the young : whom does EWD stand for, and did he bring to computer science?

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Subject: Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com writes: lilypond-user-bounces+andrew.bernard=gmail@gnu.org on behalf of imj-muz...@bluewin.ch wrote: 1€ question for the young : whom does EWD stand for, and did he bring to computer science? Writing

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In a review on languages in the Communications of the ACM a long time ago, each language was described by a caption and a short paragraph. Sample captions: APL : I can read hieroglyphs too. Prolog : If Prolog is the answer, then what was the question? LOL! Can you give a

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages (was: Way to flatten nested \include's?)

Hello Michæl, In the APL course I took years ago, the teacher said: « Exercice for the next two weeks : find out what this sample program (25 symbols altogether) does. A guy says two weeks later: « It does this and that… but it took me two and a half hours to find out! » And teacher answers: «

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On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 15:29:56 +1000 Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com wrote: quicksort=: (($:@(#[), (=#[), $:@(#[)) ({~ ?@#)) ^: (1#) It's hard to believe that people only complained about Perl being line noise... -- Johan ___ lilypond-user

OT: Beauty of programming languages (was: Way to flatten nested \include's?)

While guile is aimed at being an extension language, don't forget that Scheme was taught at MIT for many, many years as the finest language to give students a deep insight into computing and computer science (refer SICP). [Sadly, they now teach Python instead. Real world practicality defeated

Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages (was: Way to flatten nested \include's?)

Greetings Michael, I used to use APL! Truly wonderful. As to beauty, while subjective, amongst mathematicians at least there is a shared sense of the beautiful, and not purely personal taste. Scheme has the elegance mathematicians and computer scientists perceive. Nobody could say Python is

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Michael Gerdau wrote: Anybody remembering APL ? APL was my main lang. for decades, as is now its superset/descendant, J. I've got weary trying to tell anybody why. But the curious might take a peek at http://www.jsoftware.com/ Pete ___

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PMA peterarmstr...@aya.yale.edu writes: Michael Gerdau wrote: Anybody remembering APL ? APL was my main lang. for decades, as is now its superset/descendant, J. It is fitting that the language name is now a single character. I am just surprised that it is one in the ASCII character set.

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Before we all get booted off for being OT, here’s quicksort in J, using a concept called tacit programming: quicksort=: (($:@(#[), (=#[), $:@(#[)) ({~ ?@#)) ^: (1#) Truly beautiful, in all seriousness. This is not a joke! :-) Andrew ___

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Very amusing! But what about B, C, D, E, F, G, K (an APL derivative), L (several), R, S, T (a Scheme dialect) to name a few? Seriously now, APL had special keyboards with the symbols which were wondrous to behold. And indeed, J was constructed in recognition of the divine impracticality of