Re: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes

2018-04-13 Thread Malte Meyn



Am 12.04.2018 um 19:25 schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek:

Marco,

In the attached I got the beaming you want. Do not know how to give each 
tuplet is own 3.


Have a look at my answer to that question: setting subdivideBeams (and 
baseMoment) is way easier than setting stemLeftBeamCount and 
stemRightBeamCount ;)


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RE: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes

2018-04-12 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Noeck

In the model presented each group of three 16ths had its own 3.
I see the "4" in your code for the tuplets.
>From that I can change my solution (see attached.)

Mark


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Am 12.04.2018 um 19:25 schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek:
> Do not know how to give each tuplet is own 3.

Was that a question?

\tuplet 3/2 4 { a8 b c a b c a b c a b c }

Cheers,
Joram

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\version "2.19.80"

\relative c {
 
\clef bass
\time 4/4
\key bes \major

r8
\tuplet 3/2 8 {f16 \upbow -\markup { \line {\concat { \dynamic p } \italic { accel. e cresc. }}}
 f f 
  ges16 ges16 
  \set stemRightBeamCount = #1
  ges16
  \set stemLeftBeamCount = #1
  aes16 aes16 aes16]
  bes16 bes16 
  \set stemRightBeamCount = #1
  bes16
  \set stemLeftBeamCount = #1
  c16 c16 c16
  d16 d16 
  \set stemRightBeamCount = #1
  d16
  \set stemLeftBeamCount = 1
  ees16 ees16 ees16 }|
f1|
}
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Re: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes

2018-04-12 Thread Noeck


Am 12.04.2018 um 19:25 schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek:
> Do not know how to give each tuplet is own 3.

Was that a question?

\tuplet 3/2 4 { a8 b c a b c a b c a b c }

Cheers,
Joram

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Re: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes

2018-04-12 Thread Simon Albrecht

On 12.04.2018 11:24, Marco Bagolin wrote:

But final output is not the same of the image.


Often what LilyPond does is better than what other computer-engraved 
editions (even by major publishers) do.


Best, Simon

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Re: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes

2018-04-12 Thread Marco Bagolin
Ty Meyn,
I solved the second question using your proposal of code.

I did not solved the first question.
Here following my working example:

\version "2.18.2"

 \relative c'

{

\time 4/4

\key bes \major

\tuplet 3/2 { d8:16 -\markup { \tiny \italic { rep. notes opt. }} \f f8:16
bes8:16 } d4 \tuplet 3/2 { c,8:16 ees?8:16 aes8:16 } c4|

}
But final output is not the same of the imagine.


Il giorno gio 12 apr 2018 alle 08:30 Malte Meyn  ha
scritto:

>
>
> Am 12.04.2018 um 07:13 schrieb Marco Bagolin:
> > Hi all,
> > please someone can help me?
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> please always give minimal *working* examples. Your code doesn’t compile.
>
> Also it would be better to write simple text emails instead of HTML,
> because then it’s easier to copy the code and have it nicely formatted.
>
> For your second question:
>
> \set Timing.subdivideBeams = ##t
> \set Timing.baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1/8)
>
> For your first question:
>
> You could try something like
>
> \override StemTremolo.slope = #0.5
>
> but I’d recommend not to try to copy the notation you posted exactly
> because the tremolo beams should be near the beams (see also Gould,
> “Behind Bars”).
>
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Re: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes

2018-04-12 Thread Marco Bagolin
I am trying, but I don't find the correct sintax...


Il giorno gio 12 apr 2018 alle 14:56 Malte Meyn  ha
scritto:

>
>
> Am 12.04.2018 um 11:24 schrieb Marco Bagolin:
> > I solved the second question using your proposal of code.
> >
> > I did not solved the first question.
>
> Have you tried overriding the slope?
>
> And have you read my recommendation? Probably it would be possible to
> bring the StemTremolos nearer to the note heads but it would be
> complicated and it would be against common notation practice.
>
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Re: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes

2018-04-12 Thread Malte Meyn



Am 12.04.2018 um 15:11 schrieb Marco Bagolin:

I am trying, but I don't find the correct sintax...


Just add the \override command somewhere at the start of music.

\version "2.18.2"

\relative c'
{
  \override StemTremolo.slope = 0.5
  \time 4/4
  \key bes \major
  \tuplet 3/2 { d8:16 -\markup { \tiny \italic { rep. notes opt. }} \f 
f8:16 bes8:16 } d4 \tuplet 3/2 { c,8:16 ees?8:16 aes8:16 } c4|

}

Il giorno gio 12 apr 2018 alle 14:56 Malte Meyn > ha scritto:




Am 12.04.2018 um 11:24 schrieb Marco Bagolin:
 > I solved the second question using your proposal of code.
 >
 > I did not solved the first question.

Have you tried overriding the slope?

And have you read my recommendation? Probably it would be possible to
bring the StemTremolos nearer to the note heads but it would be
complicated and it would be against common notation practice.



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Re: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes

2018-04-12 Thread Malte Meyn



Am 12.04.2018 um 11:24 schrieb Marco Bagolin:

I solved the second question using your proposal of code.

I did not solved the first question.


Have you tried overriding the slope?

And have you read my recommendation? Probably it would be possible to 
bring the StemTremolos nearer to the note heads but it would be 
complicated and it would be against common notation practice.


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Re: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes

2018-04-12 Thread Malte Meyn



Am 12.04.2018 um 07:13 schrieb Marco Bagolin:

Hi all,
please someone can help me?


Hi Mark,

please always give minimal *working* examples. Your code doesn’t compile.

Also it would be better to write simple text emails instead of HTML, 
because then it’s easier to copy the code and have it nicely formatted.


For your second question:

\set Timing.subdivideBeams = ##t
\set Timing.baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1/8)

For your first question:

You could try something like

\override StemTremolo.slope = #0.5

but I’d recommend not to try to copy the notation you posted exactly 
because the tremolo beams should be near the beams (see also Gould, 
“Behind Bars”).


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Re: Tremolo repeats and groups of notes

2018-04-12 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello Marco,

None of your examples compile with 2.19.80, which complains about spurious 
expression in \score messages.

How did you copy/paste the code into your post?

You can also attach the files to the message.

JM

> Le 12 avr. 2018 à 07:13, Marco Bagolin  a écrit :
> 
> Hi all,
> please someone can help me?
> Thank you in advance
> 1. I did not find a solution to reproduce the following tremolo notes in 
> tuplets:
> 
> 
> My best solution is the following… but beam slash position and direction is 
> not as in the example:
> 
>  
> 
> \version "2.18.2"
> 
>  
> 
> \score {
> 
>  
> 
> \time 4/4
> 
> \key bes \major
> 
>  
> 
> \tuplet 3/2 { d8:16 -\markup { \tiny \italic { rep. notes 
> opt. }} \f f8:16 bes:16 } \tuplet 3/2 { c8:16 ees?8:16 aes8:16 } c4|
> 
> }
> 
>  
> 
> 2. I did not find a solution to reproduce the following group od notes:
> 
> 
> 
> My best solution is the following, but is not as in the example:
> 
>  
> 
> \version "2.18.2"
> 
>  
> 
> \score {
> 
>  
> 
> \clef bass
> 
> \time 4/4
> 
> \key bes \major
> 
>  
> 
> r8
> 
>\tuplet 3/2 { f16 \upbow -\markup { \line { 
> \concat { \dynamic p } \italic { accel. e cresc. }}} f f }
> 
>\tuplet 3/2 { ges16[ ges16 ges16] }
> 
>\tuplet 3/2 { aes16[ aes16 aes16] }
> 
>  
> 
>\tuplet 3/2 { bes16[ bes16 bes16] }
> 
>\tuplet 3/2 { c16[ c16 c16] }
> 
>\tuplet 3/2 { d16[ d16 d16] }
> 
>\tuplet 3/2 { ees16[ ees16 ees16] }|
> 
> f1|
> 
> }
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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