Re: avoid-slur does not apply on a tie.

2014-06-14 Thread David Kastrup
Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com writes: 2014-06-13 23:53 GMT+02:00 Ralph Palmer palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com: I think this is, on fact, a slur, not a tie. If the sounding of the notes is separate, as would be implied by the staccato dots, that should make it a bowing

Re: avoid-slur does not apply on a tie.

2014-06-14 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 14.06.2014 07:29, schrieb Pierre Perol-Schneider: 2014-06-13 23:53 GMT+02:00 Ralph Palmer palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com mailto:palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com: I think this is, on fact, a slur, not a tie. If the sounding of the notes is separate, as would be implied by the staccato dots,

Re: avoid-slur does not apply on a tie.

2014-06-14 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2014-06-14 8:58 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: The tuning suggests rather a guitar or something. For which bowing directions don't make a lot of sense. A viol would be another possibility, but that is probably not what Diabelli had been writing for. Sorry, forgot to tell : it's a

Re: avoid-slur does not apply on a tie.

2014-06-14 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2014-06-14 8:59 GMT+02:00 Simon Albrecht simon.albre...@mail.de: Interpretation is a different issue, I think. But the ly representation may well be a slur, even if it is actually played as a vibrato or whatever articulation one might apply. Ok.

Re: avoid-slur does not apply on a tie.

2014-06-13 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2014-06-12 23:12 GMT+02:00 Ralph Palmer palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com: Can you typeset it as a slur? Seems like one, since you're asking them to behave as two notes. This seems to work : %% \version 2.18.2 { c''4 -\tweak padding #-2 ^. -\tweak Y-offset #1 ^~ c''-\tweak

Re: avoid-slur does not apply on a tie.

2014-06-13 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2014-06-12 23:53 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com: 2014-06-12 23:12 GMT+02:00 Ralph Palmer palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com: Hi Ralph, I'm away from my computer, so this will be brief. avoid-slur does not work on a tie because a tie is not a slur. See :

Re: avoid-slur does not apply on a tie.

2014-06-13 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hello, 2014-06-11 17:08 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com: Hi, I'd like to understand why avoid-slur does not work on this old style vibrato sign : %% \version 2.18.2 \markup\italic avoid-slur works with slur: { \override

Re: avoid-slur does not apply on a tie.

2014-06-13 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2014-06-13 23:13 GMT+02:00 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: Hello, Hi Janek I believe that moving a tie like this (if it worked like in the case of the slur) would be extremely confusing. A tie should look like a tie. Ok I understand. Actually this thing is only for few

Re: avoid-slur does not apply on a tie.

2014-06-13 Thread Ralph Palmer
On Jun 13, 2014 5:46 PM, Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-06-13 23:13 GMT+02:00 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: Hello, Hi Janek I believe that moving a tie like this (if it worked like in the case of the slur) would be extremely confusing. A

Re: avoid-slur does not apply on a tie.

2014-06-13 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2014-06-13 23:53 GMT+02:00 Ralph Palmer palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com: I think this is, on fact, a slur, not a tie. If the sounding of the notes is separate, as would be implied by the staccato dots, that should make it a bowing slur, not a tie. Ralph Thnaks Ralph ! Strange, I was told that

Re: avoid-slur does not apply on a tie.

2014-06-12 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Anyone ? Should I consider this output as a bug ? Cheers, Pierre 2014-06-11 17:08 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com: Hi, I'd like to understand why avoid-slur does not work on this old style vibrato sign : %% \version 2.18.2

Re: avoid-slur does not apply on a tie.

2014-06-12 Thread Ralph Palmer
On Jun 11, 2014 11:09 AM, Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to understand why avoid-slur does not work on this old style vibrato sign : %% \version 2.18.2 \markup\italic avoid-slur works with slur: { \override

Re: avoid-slur does not apply on a tie.

2014-06-12 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2014-06-12 23:12 GMT+02:00 Ralph Palmer palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com: Hi Ralph, I'm away from my computer, so this will be brief. avoid-slur does not work on a tie because a tie is not a slur. See : http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/internals/tie Can you typeset it as a slur?

avoid-slur does not apply on a tie.

2014-06-11 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi, I'd like to understand why avoid-slur does not work on this old style vibrato sign : %% \version 2.18.2 \markup\italic avoid-slur works with slur: { \override Script.avoid-slur = #'inside c''4^.^( c''^.) } \markup\italic but not with tie: { \override