Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-14 Thread Philip Thomas
Peter Wannemacher wrote (13.06.2012 17:52): I would like to contribute to this cheat-sheet. I would be pleased to create ideas or comment on those of others. Excellent! I hope to make some sort of draft available in the next couple of weeks to get the ball rolling from my point of view.

RE: transcribe notes

2012-06-13 Thread Philip Thomas
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:49:16AM +0200, Philip Thomas wrote: I'm inclined to try to knock together a draft expanded cheatsheet on my own account and float it (e.g. in PDF format) on the user list. On Wednesday 13 June 2012 at 01:10, Graham Percival wrote: ok. It won't become part of the

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 07:25:27AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: While I applaud the magnitude of your conscience, I consider your sense of responsibility overblown. I would have no qualms encouraging people into trying to get involved. That's because you are an excellent programmer,

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-13 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:49:16AM +0200, Philip Thomas wrote: I'm inclined to try to knock together a draft expanded cheatsheet on my own account and float it (e.g. in PDF format) on the user list. On Wednesday 13

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-13 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: [...] Or, to put it in a more cold-blooded way: I want to get the reputation of treating lilypond volunteers well, since that will encourage more people to volunteer.  By discouraging people from having a hard

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-13 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 07:25:27AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: While I applaud the magnitude of your conscience, I consider your sense of responsibility overblown. I would have no qualms encouraging people into trying to get involved. That's

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-13 Thread Philip Thomas
On 13 June 2012 at 08:53, Janek Warchoł wrote: As for mentoring, i could help you a bit, but not very much. And i cannot promise anything since i am really busy for the next month :( If you find the CG hard, it may be wise to wait until things get better organised. I don't think I'll need

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-13 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch wrote: On 13 June 2012 at 08:53, Janek Warchoł wrote: As for mentoring, i could help you a bit, but not very much.  And i cannot promise anything since i am really busy for the next month :( If you find the CG hard, it may

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-13 Thread Philip Thomas
Blast! Resubmitted with apologies -- sent this a short while ago with an inept subject heading. Sorry, Philip _ Graham Percival wrote: I cannot in good conscience encourage anybody to become involved with lilypond development at the present time unless they

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-13 Thread Colin Campbell
On 12-06-13 05:07 AM, Philip Thomas wrote: I wasn't expecting this to be a tension-free exercise, especially having followed some other recent threads with interest. Nor am I going to deflate if an expanded cheatsheet doesn't materialize or doesn't attract any interest. I'm not especially

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-13 Thread Philip Thomas
On 13.06.2012 at 14:46, Colin Campbell wrote: I'd be willing to give you what help I can, Philip. My doc skills are rusty but I can usually get changes done, and if we get stumped, I can probably point you in a useful direction. Most of my help will likely be encouraging emails, but by the

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-13 Thread Peter Wannemacher sotw
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:49:16AM +0200, Philip Thomas wrote: If that's correct, I guess your initial thanks, but no thanks is directed more to the possibility of my becoming a more serious contributor, Yes. I'm inclined to try to knock together a draft expanded cheatsheet

transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread MING TSANG
Hi, lily users: I am transcribe a music score to lilypond and came across a note with  vertical line on both side.  What is this called and how to code in lily to generate it?   Blessing in+, Ming. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 4:42 PM, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com wrote: Hi, lily users: I am transcribe a music score to lilypond and came across a note with vertical line on both side.  What is this called and how to code in lily to generate it? I suppose it's a breve note. It can have

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Jay Anderson
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:42 AM, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com wrote: I am transcribe a music score to lilypond and came across a note with vertical line on both side.  What is this called and how to code in lily to generate it? Most likely a breve: { c\breve } -Jay

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Jay Anderson writes: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:42 AM, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com wrote: I am transcribe a music score to lilypond and came across a note with vertical line on both side.  What is this called and how to code in lily to generate it? Most likely a breve: { c\breve } We now

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org wrote: Jay Anderson writes: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:42 AM, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com wrote: I am transcribe a music score to lilypond and came across a note with vertical line on both side.  What is this called and how

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Janek Warchoł writes: I'm not sure. This is a music notation question: what's this?. Lily documentation aims to answer different kind of questions: how do i engrave this? and it assumes that the user knows what's what he wants. She wants a certain type of note. Chances are that she can

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org To: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com Cc: MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com; lilypond-usermailinglist lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 4:06 PM Subject: Re: transcribe notes Janek Warchoł writes: I'm

transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread MING TSANG
Sorry, forgot to include sample .png file.   Blessing in+, - Forwarded Message - From: MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com To: lilypond-usermailinglist lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:42:50 AM Subject: transcribe notes Hi, lily users: I am transcribe a music score

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Phil Holmes
Still the same answer: a breve. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_whole_note -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: MING TSANG To: lilypond-usermailinglist Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 4:23 PM Subject: transcribe notes Sorry, forgot to include sample .png file

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Note_value lol! look at the flagged notes: some are from Lily, some from Sibelius :P ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread MING TSANG
lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:43:01 AM Subject: Re: transcribe notes On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Note_value lol! look at the flagged notes: some are from Lily, some from Sibelius :P

RE: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Philip Thomas
Janek Warcho? writes: I'm not sure. This is a music notation question: what's this?. Lily documentation aims to answer different kind of questions: how do i engrave this? and it assumes that the user knows what's what he wants. Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: She wants a certain type of note.

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread James
On 12 Jun 2012, at 20:46, Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch wrote: -- -- I remember finding some gaps in the Cheat Sheet as a new user. Might it be worth reviewing to see whether it could be expanded and improved without over-burdening it with detail?

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch wrote: I remember finding some gaps in the Cheat Sheet as a new user. Might it be worth reviewing to see whether it could be expanded and improved without over-burdening it with detail? If it would help for me as a

RE: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Philip Thomas
On 12 Jun 2012, at 20:46, Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch wrote: I remember finding some gaps in the Cheat Sheet as a new user. Might it be worth reviewing to see whether it could be expanded and improved without over-burdening it with detail? On 12 June 2012, at 21:58, James

RE: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Philip Thomas
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch wrote: I remember finding some gaps in the Cheat Sheet as a new user. Might it be worth reviewing to see whether it could be expanded and improved without over-burdening it with detail? If it would help for me as a

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch wrote: I'll look at the CG. But would an expanded cheatsheet would be useful? You tell me :) I suppose that it will be, but i'm not using it for some time, so i'm not the best guy to judge. And is it the kind of thing

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:58:37PM +0200, Philip Thomas wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch wrote: I should mention that I'm no programmer. (And I wouldn't be offended by a polite thanks, but no thanks.) I'm afraid that my first reaction is

RE: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Philip Thomas
On Tuesday 12 June 2012 23:41, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: I'm afraid that my first reaction is thanks, but no thanks. See below. Be warned that the CG is not actively maintained. I estimate that approximately 20% of the advice in the CG misleading, and 10% of the advice

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:49:16AM +0200, Philip Thomas wrote: If that's correct, I guess your initial thanks, but no thanks is directed more to the possibility of my becoming a more serious contributor, Yes. I'm inclined to try to knock together a draft expanded cheatsheet on my own

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/6/12 Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch: -- The Kainhofer cheatsheet costs money (albeit not much money), but LilyPond and all its documentation, as we all know and greatly appreciate, comes free. A nicely coloured printed Kainhofer cheatsheet costs money, but its code is

Re: transcribe notes

2012-06-12 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:58:37PM +0200, Philip Thomas wrote: On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Philip Thomas philip.tho...@bluewin.ch wrote: I should mention that I'm no programmer. (And I wouldn't be offended by a polite thanks, but no