Re: zero-duration s to hold marks

2024-01-15 Thread David Kastrup
Raphael Mankin writes: > As a more general response to this thread, I feel that the reference > manual needs to have more cross references. I frequently get a bit > lost trying to find a suitable construct, or discovering what a > construct means. > > This thread has already shown that 1.2.2,

Re: zero-duration s to hold marks

2024-01-15 Thread Raphael Mankin
As a more general response to this thread, I feel that the reference manual needs to have more cross references. I frequently get a bit lost trying to find a suitable construct, or discovering what a construct means. This thread has already shown that 1.2.2, 1.3.* and 1.5.* need to

Re: zero-duration s to hold marks

2024-01-12 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser via LilyPond user discussion
Hi Raphael, Am 12.01.24 um 13:32 schrieb Raphael Mankin: I agree that 0 as a denominator would seem to indicate an infinite duration, and allow the rest of your argument. However <> still seems unintuitive. I agree that <> isn't obvious. But in a complex language like LilyPond, there's

Re: zero-duration s to hold marks

2024-01-12 Thread Mats Bengtsson
On 2024-01-12 15:58, Knute Snortum wrote: At least section 1.2.2 of the reference manual ought to be updated to include <> in the discussion of invisible rests. Can you share how you would want that

Re: zero-duration s to hold marks

2024-01-12 Thread Knute Snortum
On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 6:21 AM Raphael Mankin wrote: > > > On 10/01/2024 10:35, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Jan 2024, Raphael Mankin wrote: > > > >> That strikes me as being a programmer's response, and I speak as a > programmer > >> for over 50 years. Using <> works, but it

Re: zero-duration s to hold marks

2024-01-12 Thread David Kastrup
Raphael Mankin writes: > On 10/01/2024 10:35, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote: >> On Wed, 10 Jan 2024, Raphael Mankin wrote: >> >>> That strikes me as being a programmer's response, and I speak as a >>> programmer >>> for over 50 years. Using <> works, but it is unintuitive. If s0 is more >>>

Re: zero-duration s to hold marks

2024-01-12 Thread Raphael Mankin
On 10/01/2024 10:35, msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote: On Wed, 10 Jan 2024, Raphael Mankin wrote: That strikes me as being a programmer's response, and I speak as a programmer for over 50 years. Using <> works, but it is unintuitive. If s0 is more intuitive then that should be considered for

Re: zero-duration s to hold marks

2024-01-10 Thread David Kastrup
Jean Abou Samra writes: > Raphael: >> That strikes me as being a programmer's response, and I speak as a >> programmer for over 50 years. Using <> works, but it is unintuitive. If >> s0 is more intuitive then that should be considered for future inclusion. > > s1*0 works and is more or less

Re: zero-duration s to hold marks

2024-01-10 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Raphael: > That strikes me as being a programmer's response, and I speak as a > programmer for over 50 years. Using <> works, but it is unintuitive. If > s0 is more intuitive then that should be considered for future inclusion. s1*0 works and is more or less equivalent to <> . John: > The

Re: zero-duration s to hold marks

2024-01-10 Thread mskala
On Wed, 10 Jan 2024, Raphael Mankin wrote: > That strikes me as being a programmer's response, and I speak as a programmer > for over 50 years. Using <> works, but it is unintuitive. If s0 is more > intuitive then that should be considered for future inclusion. It's intuitive to me that s0 means

Re: zero-duration s to hold marks

2024-01-10 Thread Raphael Mankin
On 09/01/2024 18:35, Paul Scott wrote: On 1/9/24 11:29 AM, John Asmuth wrote: Hi lilypond, I have two users for a s0 (except it tells me 0 is not a duration). <> does what I believe you want:  <>_\< HTH, Paul That strikes me as being a programmer's response, and I speak as a

Re: zero-duration s to hold marks

2024-01-09 Thread John Asmuth
Yes, thank you! On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 1:36 PM Paul Scott wrote: > On 1/9/24 11:29 AM, John Asmuth wrote: > > Hi lilypond, > > > > I have two users for a s0 (except it tells me 0 is not a duration). > > <> does what I believe you want: <>_\< > > HTH, > > Paul > > > > > > First, I have a

Re: zero-duration s to hold marks

2024-01-09 Thread Paul Scott
On 1/9/24 11:29 AM, John Asmuth wrote: Hi lilypond, I have two users for a s0 (except it tells me 0 is not a duration). <> does what I believe you want:  <>_\< HTH, Paul First, I have a "\repeat unfold N {  ... }" and I want to surround the whole thing with a crescendo. I could

zero-duration s to hold marks

2024-01-09 Thread John Asmuth
Hi lilypond, I have two users for a s0 (except it tells me 0 is not a duration). First, I have a "\repeat unfold N { ... }" and I want to surround the whole thing with a crescendo. I could unpack the first and last item in the repeat, but I feel lily lilypond has some way to do an equivalent