subject:"Pedal bracket alignment"

Re: Pedal bracket alignment

2018-04-17 Thread Edward Neeman

Still, I appreciate your help Mark.

Thanks,
Edward

> On 16 Apr 2018, at 12:48 am, Mark Stephen Mrotek <carsonm...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Edward,
> Your requirements are more exacting than my knowledge/skill can meet.
>  
> Mark
>  
> From: lilypond-user 
> [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of 
> Edward Neeman
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 8:04 PM
> To: Lilypond-user <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
> Subject: Re: Pedal bracket alignment
>  
> Hello Mark,
>  
> After playing around with this problem, I’ve found a few ways to get a 
> reasonable result. Some of the strategies I tried are in the attached file. 
> My dream option would be to be able to create a function that would give one 
> set of shorten-pair values at the Ped. marking, and another set of values for 
> the pedal changes.
>  
> Thanks,
> Edward

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Re: Pedal bracket alignment

2018-04-17 Thread Edward Neeman

Brilliant thanks Harm! I’ll let you know if I manage to “break” it.

Best,
Edward

> On 15 Apr 2018, at 8:36 pm, Thomas Morley  wrote:
> 
> 2018-04-15 5:04 GMT+02:00 Edward Neeman :
>> My dream option would be to be able to create a function that would give one
>> set of shorten-pair values at the Ped. marking, and another set of values
>> for the pedal changes.
> 
> 
> How about attached.
> 
> It doesn't move the "Ped."-marking, though.
> Please read comments and doc-strings.
> Not tested beyond the given example!
> 
> Cheers,
>  Harm
> 


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RE: Pedal bracket alignment

2018-04-15 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek

Edward,

Your requirements are more exacting than my knowledge/skill can meet.

 

Mark

 

From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] 
On Behalf Of Edward Neeman
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 8:04 PM
To: Lilypond-user <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Pedal bracket alignment

 

Hello Mark,

 

After playing around with this problem, I’ve found a few ways to get a 
reasonable result. Some of the strategies I tried are in the attached file. My 
dream option would be to be able to create a function that would give one set 
of shorten-pair values at the Ped. marking, and another set of values for the 
pedal changes.

 

Thanks,

Edward

 

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Re: Pedal bracket alignment

2018-04-15 Thread Thomas Morley

2018-04-15 5:04 GMT+02:00 Edward Neeman :
> My dream option would be to be able to create a function that would give one
> set of shorten-pair values at the Ped. marking, and another set of values
> for the pedal changes.


How about attached.

It doesn't move the "Ped."-marking, though.
Please read comments and doc-strings.
Not tested beyond the given example!

Cheers,
  Harm
\version "2.18.2" 


#(define (note-column::main-extent grob)
"Return extent of the noteheads in the 'main column', (i.e. excluding any
suspended noteheads), or extent of the rest (if there are no heads)."
  (let* ((note-heads (ly:grob-object grob 'note-heads))
 (stem (ly:grob-object grob 'stem))
 (rest (ly:grob-object grob 'rest)))
(cond ((ly:grob-array? note-heads)
   (let (;; get the cdr from all note-heads-extents, where the car
 ;; is zero
 (n-h-right-coords
   (filter-map
 (lambda (n-h)
   (let ((ext (ly:grob-extent n-h grob X)))
  (and (= (car ext) 0) (cdr ext
 (ly:grob-array->list note-heads
 ;; better be paranoid, find the max of n-h-right-coords and 
 ;; return a pair with (cons 0 )
 (cons 0.0 (reduce max 0 n-h-right-coords
  ((ly:grob? rest)
   (ly:grob-extent rest grob X))
  ;; better be paranoid
  (else '(0 . 0)

#(define (adjust-piano-pedal-bracket val)
  (lambda (grob)
;; grob is supposed to be PianoPedalBracket.
;; Returns a number-pair to set shorten-pair.
;; This pair is calculated warranting no gap between consecutive
;; PianoPedalBrackets.
;; If `val' is #f the extent of left and right bounding
;; NoteColumns are calculated. Half of those lengths are taken then.
;; (Only the NoteColumn's main extent is taken, disregarding suspended
;; NoteHeads)
 (let* ((orig (ly:grob-original grob))
(siblings (if (ly:grob? orig)
  (ly:spanner-broken-into orig) '()))
(with-text? (ly:grob? (ly:grob-object grob 'pedal-text)))
(left-val #f)
(right-val #f))

   (if val
   (begin
 (set! left-val val)
 (set! right-val (- val)))
   (let* ((left-bound (ly:spanner-bound grob LEFT))
  (left-bound-elts-array (ly:grob-object left-bound 'elements))
  (left-bound-elts-list 
(if (ly:grob-array? left-bound-elts-array)
(ly:grob-array->list left-bound-elts-array)
'()))
  (left-bound-nc-list
(filter
  (lambda (g)
(grob::has-interface g 'note-column-interface))
  left-bound-elts-list))
  (left-bound-note-column
(if (pair? left-bound-nc-list)
(car left-bound-nc-list)
#f))
  (left-val-default
(if left-bound-note-column
(/
   (interval-length 
 (note-column::main-extent left-bound-note-column))
   2)
0))
  (right-bound (ly:spanner-bound grob RIGHT))
  (right-bound-elts-array 
(ly:grob-object right-bound 'elements))
  (right-bound-elts-list 
(if (ly:grob-array? right-bound-elts-array)
(ly:grob-array->list right-bound-elts-array)
'()))
  (right-bound-nc-list
(filter
  (lambda (g)
(grob::has-interface g 'note-column-interface))
  right-bound-elts-list))
  (right-bound-note-column
(if (pair? right-bound-nc-list)
(car right-bound-nc-list)
#f))
  (right-val-default
(if right-bound-note-column
(/ 
   (interval-length 
 (note-column::main-extent right-bound-note-column))
   -2)
0)))
  (set! left-val left-val-default)
  (set! right-val right-val-default)))

   (if (pair? siblings) 
   (cond
 ((equal? grob (car siblings))
   (if with-text?
   (cons 0 0)
   (cons left-val 0)))
 ((equal? grob (last siblings))
   (cons 0 right-val))
 (else
   (cons 0 0)))
   (if with-text?
   (cons 0 right-val)
   (cons left-val right-val))

Re: Pedal bracket alignment

2018-04-14 Thread Edward Neeman

Hello Mark,After playing around with this problem, I’ve found a few ways to get a reasonable result. Some of the strategies I tried are in the attached file. My dream option would be to be able to create a function that would give one set of shorten-pair values at the Ped. marking, and another set of values for the pedal changes.Thanks,Edward

pedal-options.ly
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On 15 Apr 2018, at 8:55 am, Edward Neeman  wrote:\version "2.19.80"\relative { \set Staff.pedalSustainStyle =#'mixed  \override Staff.PianoPedalBracket.shorten-pair = #'(0.6 . -0.6) c'4\sustainOn c d\sustainOff\sustainOn d\sustainOff e\sustainOn e f\sustainOff f }___
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RE: Pedal bracket alignment

2018-04-14 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek

Edward,

If you provide an example, I shall try to comply.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Edward Neeman [mailto:edward.nee...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 6:33 PM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek <carsonm...@ca.rr.com>
Cc: Lilypond-user <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Pedal bracket alignment

Hello Mark and Shane,

Thanks for suggestion! In fact I was doing something very similar, putting the 
pedal marking in its own variable (though I added it to the bottom staff of the 
piano part). I was hoping to be able to change how the pedal bracket is aligned 
with the notes in the same rhythmic column (basically, more centred). I could 
fudge that by putting the pedal change one sixteenth note late, but I was 
hoping for a neater solution.

Best,
Edward

> On 15 Apr 2018, at 10:31 am, Mark Stephen Mrotek <carsonm...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Edward,
> 
> As Shane suggests, placing the pedal marking in a \new Dynamics allows 
> specific placement.
> Attached is an example.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: lilypond-user 
> [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf 
> Of Edward Neeman
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 3:55 PM
> To: Lilypond-user <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
> Subject: Pedal bracket alignment
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I would like to align the pedal bracket changes closer to the middle of the 
> notes they’re attached to, instead of at the beginning of the note.
> 
> What is the best way to achieve this? I have been using shorten-pair but that 
> leaves too much space between the Ped. mark and the start of the bracket.
> 
> \version "2.19.80"
> 
> \relative {
>  \set Staff.pedalSustainStyle =#'mixed  \override 
> Staff.PianoPedalBracket.shorten-pair = #'(0.6 . -0.6)  c'4\sustainOn c 
> d\sustainOff\sustainOn d\sustainOff e\sustainOn e f\sustainOff f }
> 
> Thanks!
> Edward
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Re: Pedal bracket alignment

2018-04-14 Thread Edward Neeman

Hello Mark and Shane,

Thanks for suggestion! In fact I was doing something very similar, putting the 
pedal marking in its own variable (though I added it to the bottom staff of the 
piano part). I was hoping to be able to change how the pedal bracket is aligned 
with the notes in the same rhythmic column (basically, more centred). I could 
fudge that by putting the pedal change one sixteenth note late, but I was 
hoping for a neater solution.

Best,
Edward

> On 15 Apr 2018, at 10:31 am, Mark Stephen Mrotek <carsonm...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Edward,
> 
> As Shane suggests, placing the pedal marking in a \new Dynamics allows 
> specific placement.
> Attached is an example.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: lilypond-user 
> [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of 
> Edward Neeman
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 3:55 PM
> To: Lilypond-user <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
> Subject: Pedal bracket alignment
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I would like to align the pedal bracket changes closer to the middle of the 
> notes they’re attached to, instead of at the beginning of the note.
> 
> What is the best way to achieve this? I have been using shorten-pair but that 
> leaves too much space between the Ped. mark and the start of the bracket.
> 
> \version "2.19.80"
> 
> \relative {
>  \set Staff.pedalSustainStyle =#'mixed
>  \override Staff.PianoPedalBracket.shorten-pair = #'(0.6 . -0.6)
>  c'4\sustainOn c d\sustainOff\sustainOn d\sustainOff e\sustainOn e 
> f\sustainOff f }
> 
> Thanks!
> Edward
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RE: Pedal bracket alignment

2018-04-14 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek

Edward,

As Shane suggests, placing the pedal marking in a \new Dynamics allows specific 
placement.
Attached is an example.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] 
On Behalf Of Edward Neeman
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 3:55 PM
To: Lilypond-user <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
Subject: Pedal bracket alignment

Hello,

I would like to align the pedal bracket changes closer to the middle of the 
notes they’re attached to, instead of at the beginning of the note.

What is the best way to achieve this? I have been using shorten-pair but that 
leaves too much space between the Ped. mark and the start of the bracket.

\version "2.19.80"

\relative {
  \set Staff.pedalSustainStyle =#'mixed
  \override Staff.PianoPedalBracket.shorten-pair = #'(0.6 . -0.6)
  c'4\sustainOn c d\sustainOff\sustainOn d\sustainOff e\sustainOn e 
f\sustainOff f }

Thanks!
Edward
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\version "2.19.49"

\score {
  <<
\relative c {
 \clef bass
 \time 6/8
 \key g \major
  
   g8_5 d'_3 b'_1 c_2 b_1 b, |
   g_5 d'_3 b'_1 c_2 b_1 b, |
   g d' b' d_2 e,_1 e, |
   a_5 e' c'_1 e_2 d_1 e,_3 | 
   
 }
 
   
   \new Dynamics {
 s4.\sustainOn s\sustainOff |
 s\sustainOn s\sustainOff |
 s\sustainOn s8\sustainOff 
 s8.\sustainOn s16\sustainOff |
 s4.\sustainOn s\sustainOff |
   }
  >>
}
   
   

 


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Re: Pedal bracket alignment

2018-04-14 Thread shane

I usually use an independent voice that can be populated with s values such 
that you can fudge the distances. If you have a pedal duration you want 
displayed as different from the rhythm for example c2 c4 but you only wish the 
pedal mark for quarter beat then s4\sustainOn s4\sustain off. 
Regards, Shane


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 Original message From: Edward Neeman <edward.nee...@gmail.com> 
Date: 4/14/18  6:55 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Lilypond-user <lilypond-user@gnu.org> 
Subject: Pedal bracket alignment 
Hello,

I would like to align the pedal bracket changes closer to the middle of the 
notes they’re attached to, instead of at the beginning of the note.

What is the best way to achieve this? I have been using shorten-pair but that 
leaves too much space between the Ped. mark and the start of the bracket.

\version "2.19.80"

\relative {
  \set Staff.pedalSustainStyle =#'mixed 
  \override Staff.PianoPedalBracket.shorten-pair = #'(0.6 . -0.6)
  c'4\sustainOn c d\sustainOff\sustainOn d\sustainOff e\sustainOn e 
f\sustainOff f 
}

Thanks!
Edward
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Pedal bracket alignment

2018-04-14 Thread Edward Neeman

Hello,

I would like to align the pedal bracket changes closer to the middle of the 
notes they’re attached to, instead of at the beginning of the note.

What is the best way to achieve this? I have been using shorten-pair but that 
leaves too much space between the Ped. mark and the start of the bracket.

\version "2.19.80"

\relative {
  \set Staff.pedalSustainStyle =#'mixed 
  \override Staff.PianoPedalBracket.shorten-pair = #'(0.6 . -0.6)
  c'4\sustainOn c d\sustainOff\sustainOn d\sustainOff e\sustainOn e 
f\sustainOff f 
}

Thanks!
Edward
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