Re: How to break continuous ottava bracket

[Simon Albrecht]

On 25.07.2017 21:19, arnepe wrote:

how about putting the ottavas in a separate variable, see attached file ...


Sometimes, it’s not the best thing to use Nabble to post on this list, 
because in normal environments, your attachment does not show up…


Best, Simon

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Re: How to break continuous ottava bracket

[arnepe]

how about putting the ottavas in a separate variable, see attached file ...

cheers
Arne



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Re: How to break continuous ottava bracket

[David Kastrup]

Karol Majewski  writes:

> Hi, how to break ottava bracket beteween bars? The following gives me one
> continuous bracket
>
> \ottava #1 c'1 \ottava #0
> \ottava #1 c'1 \ottava #0

I am sort-of annoyed since I answered this question but see no evidence
in my sent folder or mail log or Gnews.  Must have somehow deleted it or
sent it to Nirvana.

So let's try this again.

{
  \ottava #1 c'1 \grace { \ottava #0 s4 }
  \ottava #1 c'1
}


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David Kastrup

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Re: How to break continuous ottava bracket

[David Wright]

On Tue 25 Jul 2017 at 16:27:05 (+0200), Karol Majewski wrote:
> Sometimes you want to have two independent bars in one line:
> 
> {
> c'1 ^"example 1"
> d'1 \bar "||"
> \ottava #1 c''1 ^"example 2"
> d''1 \ottava #0 \bar "||"
> \ottava #1 c''1 ^"example 3"
> d''1 \ottava #0 \bar "||"
> 
> }
> 
> And here continuous ottava bracket looks stupid, doesn't it?
> 
> Is there more elegant way to break it? spacer rest does the job, but this
> solution is a bit artificial.

Well, so is the problem. Anyway,

{
c'1 ^"example 1"
d'1 \bar "||"
\ottava #1 c''1 ^"example 2"
d''1*1/2 \ottava #0 \hideNotes d''1*0 s1*1/2 \unHideNotes \bar "||"
\ottava #1 c''1 ^"example 3"
d''1 \ottava #0 \bar "||"

}

and then sort out the exact X placement.

Cheers,
David.

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Re: How to break continuous ottava bracket

[Richard Shann]

On Tue, 2017-07-25 at 16:57 +0200, Karol Majewski wrote:
> OK, got an idea:
> 
> \ottava #1 c'1 \ottava #0
> \ottava #1 \set Staff.ottavation = #"8va" c'1 \ottava #0
> 
> 
> It's not 100% elegant, but aceptable, I think.
> 
You still have multiple \ottava at the same moment, which do nothing.

 \ottava #1 c'1 
 \set Staff.ottavation = #"8va" c'1 
 \ottava #0
 
is the same on typesetting.

Richard



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Re: How to break continuous ottava bracket

[Karol Majewski]

OK, got an idea:

\ottava #1 c'1 \ottava #0
\ottava #1 \set Staff.ottavation = #"8va" c'1 \ottava #0

It's not 100% elegant, but aceptable, I think.

--Karol


2017-07-25 16:32 GMT+02:00 Kieren MacMillan :

> Hi Karol,
>
> > Sometimes you want to have two independent bars in one line:
> > And here continuous ottava bracket looks stupid, doesn't it?
>
> Yes.
>
> > Is there more elegant way to break it? spacer rest does the job, but
> this solution is a bit artificial.
>
> Unfortunately, null spacers (e.g., s2*0) don't.  =(
>
> I look forward to seeing elegant solutions to your question/issue.
>
> Cheers,
> Kieren.
> 
>
> Kieren MacMillan, composer
> ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info
> ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info
>
>
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Re: How to break continuous ottava bracket

[Karol Majewski]

OK, got an idea:

\ottava #1 c'1 \ottava #0
\ottava #1 \set Staff.ottavation = #"8va" c'1 \ottava #0

It's not 100% elegant, but aceptable, I think.

--Karol

2017-07-25 16:06 GMT+02:00 Simon Albrecht :

> On 25.07.2017 16:00, Karol Majewski wrote:
>
>> Hi, how to break ottava bracket beteween bars? The following gives me one
>> continuous bracket
>>
>> \ottava #1 c'1 \ottava #0
>> \ottava #1 c'1 \ottava #0
>>
>
> The bracket is continuous because the ottavation is continuous – there is
> no moment when the \ottava #0 actually takes effect.
> You could fake it with
>
> \ottava #1 c'1*1/2 \ottava #0 s2
> \ottava #1 c'1
>
> – but why?
>
> Best, Simon
>
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Re: How to break continuous ottava bracket

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Karol,

> Sometimes you want to have two independent bars in one line:
> And here continuous ottava bracket looks stupid, doesn't it?

Yes.

> Is there more elegant way to break it? spacer rest does the job, but this 
> solution is a bit artificial.

Unfortunately, null spacers (e.g., s2*0) don't.  =(

I look forward to seeing elegant solutions to your question/issue.

Cheers,
Kieren.


Kieren MacMillan, composer
‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info
‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info


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Re: How to break continuous ottava bracket

[Karol Majewski]

Sometimes you want to have two independent bars in one line:

{
c'1 ^"example 1"
d'1 \bar "||"
\ottava #1 c''1 ^"example 2"
d''1 \ottava #0 \bar "||"
\ottava #1 c''1 ^"example 3"
d''1 \ottava #0 \bar "||"

}

And here continuous ottava bracket looks stupid, doesn't it?

Is there more elegant way to break it? spacer rest does the job, but this
solution is a bit artificial.

--Karol

2017-07-25 16:06 GMT+02:00 Simon Albrecht :

> On 25.07.2017 16:00, Karol Majewski wrote:
>
>> Hi, how to break ottava bracket beteween bars? The following gives me one
>> continuous bracket
>>
>> \ottava #1 c'1 \ottava #0
>> \ottava #1 c'1 \ottava #0
>>
>
> The bracket is continuous because the ottavation is continuous – there is
> no moment when the \ottava #0 actually takes effect.
> You could fake it with
>
> \ottava #1 c'1*1/2 \ottava #0 s2
> \ottava #1 c'1
>
> – but why?
>
> Best, Simon
>
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Re: How to break continuous ottava bracket

[Simon Albrecht]

On 25.07.2017 16:00, Karol Majewski wrote:
Hi, how to break ottava bracket beteween bars? The following gives me 
one continuous bracket


\ottava #1 c'1 \ottava #0
\ottava #1 c'1 \ottava #0


The bracket is continuous because the ottavation is continuous – there 
is no moment when the \ottava #0 actually takes effect.

You could fake it with

\ottava #1 c'1*1/2 \ottava #0 s2
\ottava #1 c'1

– but why?

Best, Simon

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