Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Virtio-desktop: Virtio-based virtual desktop

2013-02-18 Thread Stefan Hajnoczi
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:40:24AM +0530, Anup Patel wrote: IMHO, If we have something like Virtio-desktop specification then all possible guest OSes can have support for it and different hypervisor can emulate it without worrying about guest support. At this point x86 virtualization is mature

Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Virtio-desktop: Virtio-based virtual desktop

2013-02-18 Thread Stefan Hajnoczi
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Anup Patel anup.pa...@linaro.org wrote: On 24 January 2013 14:55, Stefan Hajnoczi stefa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:40:24AM +0530, Anup Patel wrote: IMHO, If we have something like Virtio-desktop specification then all possible guest OSes

Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Virtio-desktop: Virtio-based virtual desktop

2013-02-18 Thread Anthony Liguori
Anup Patel anup.pa...@linaro.org writes: Hi All, How about having a generic Virtio-based machine for emulating a virtual desktop ? I know folks have already thought about this and probably also tried something or other on this front but, it will be good to know the downsides.

Re: [kvmarm] [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Virtio-desktop: Virtio-based virtual desktop

2013-02-18 Thread Anup Patel
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Alexander Graf ag...@suse.de wrote: On 24.01.2013, at 10:25, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:40:24AM +0530, Anup Patel wrote: IMHO, If we have something like Virtio-desktop specification then all possible guest OSes can have support for

Re: [Qemu-devel] [kvmarm] [RFC] Virtio-desktop: Virtio-based virtual desktop

2013-02-18 Thread Blue Swirl
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Gleb Natapov g...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 08:31:54PM +0100, Alexander Graf wrote: On 25.01.2013, at 20:04, Blue Swirl wrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:10 AM, Anup Patel anup.pa...@linaro.org wrote: Hi All, How about having a generic

Re: [Qemu-devel] [kvmarm] [RFC] Virtio-desktop: Virtio-based virtual desktop

2013-01-27 Thread Gleb Natapov
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 08:31:54PM +0100, Alexander Graf wrote: On 25.01.2013, at 20:04, Blue Swirl wrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:10 AM, Anup Patel anup.pa...@linaro.org wrote: Hi All, How about having a generic Virtio-based machine for emulating a virtual desktop ? I have

Re: [Qemu-devel] [kvmarm] [RFC] Virtio-desktop: Virtio-based virtual desktop

2013-01-27 Thread Gleb Natapov
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 10:12:20AM +, Blue Swirl wrote: On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Gleb Natapov g...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 08:31:54PM +0100, Alexander Graf wrote: On 25.01.2013, at 20:04, Blue Swirl wrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:10 AM, Anup Patel

Re: [kvmarm] [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Virtio-desktop: Virtio-based virtual desktop

2013-01-27 Thread Alexander Graf
On 27.01.2013, at 15:07, Anthony Liguori wrote: Anup Patel anup.pa...@linaro.org writes: Hi All, How about having a generic Virtio-based machine for emulating a virtual desktop ? I know folks have already thought about this and probably also tried something or other on this front

Re: [kvmarm] [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Virtio-desktop: Virtio-based virtual desktop

2013-01-25 Thread Alexander Graf
On 25.01.2013, at 20:04, Blue Swirl wrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:10 AM, Anup Patel anup.pa...@linaro.org wrote: Hi All, How about having a generic Virtio-based machine for emulating a virtual desktop ? I have also thought about this, current virtio design is not very clean. On the

Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Virtio-desktop: Virtio-based virtual desktop

2013-01-24 Thread Anup Patel
On 24 January 2013 14:55, Stefan Hajnoczi stefa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:40:24AM +0530, Anup Patel wrote: IMHO, If we have something like Virtio-desktop specification then all possible guest OSes can have support for it and different hypervisor can emulate it without

Re: [kvmarm] [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Virtio-desktop: Virtio-based virtual desktop

2013-01-24 Thread Alexander Graf
On 24.01.2013, at 10:25, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:40:24AM +0530, Anup Patel wrote: IMHO, If we have something like Virtio-desktop specification then all possible guest OSes can have support for it and different hypervisor can emulate it without worrying about guest

Re: [kvmarm] [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Virtio-desktop: Virtio-based virtual desktop

2013-01-24 Thread Peter Maydell
On 24 January 2013 14:38, Alexander Graf ag...@suse.de wrote: But check out the QEMU e500 machine. We have a fully device tree based machine type in the kernel. QEMU drives it by generating a device tree for devices it actually exposes on the fly. The ARM equivalent for that would be

Re: [kvmarm] [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Virtio-desktop: Virtio-based virtual desktop

2013-01-24 Thread Rob Taylor
On 24/01/13 14:52, Alexander Graf wrote: On 24.01.2013, at 15:42, Peter Maydell wrote: ...do we have an ARM PCI controller of any working kind in the kernel? versatilepb's PCI controller doesn't count as it is utterly broken :-) Don't the Marvell chips have PCI? And Tegra? I'm sure there

[RFC] Virtio-desktop: Virtio-based virtual desktop

2013-01-23 Thread Anup Patel
Hi All, How about having a generic Virtio-based machine for emulating a virtual desktop ? I know folks have already thought about this and probably also tried something or other on this front but, it will be good to know the downsides. Virtio-desktop can be a separate specification describing a