Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread Sara Mattes
Cheryl, You should know that Codman, Drumlin, the Food Project and others in Lincoln are bringing food to families in need, both in Linocln and beyond. And those that can afford CCF prices also are asked to contribute to the Lincoln Food Pantry. Significant revenues are generated. It is

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread Jennie Morris via Lincoln
The basic difference, for me, is that I can walk down the road and see Codman chicken conditions for myself, no audit required. But for consumers in other communities it’s not so easy. If Costco is a trustworthy agent for them, that’s a good thing. But we could all eat less meat.

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread Rhonda Swain
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 8:18 PM cob via Lincoln wrote: > > I grew up in Lincoln, and still have a property there.. I'm stunned and > not, by the the comments on this thread, how privilege you are, > questioning a cucumber to chicken prices, organic or not. My dad invested > and had chickens on

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread cob via Lincoln
Thank you Jean,  I hope others will read and change their way..  stay well, In a message dated 7/14/2021 8:22:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, lincoln@lincolntalk.org writes:  thank you Cheryl for your honesty!  agree.  Jean Palmer -Original Message- From: cob via Lincoln To:

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread kliattaudi--- via Lincoln
thank you Cheryl for your honesty!  agree.  Jean Palmer -Original Message- From: cob via Lincoln To: samat...@gmail.com; bmwkbi...@gmail.com Cc: lincoln@lincolntalk.org Sent: Wed, Jul 14, 2021 8:18 pm Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive  I grew up in

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread cob via Lincoln
 I grew up in Lincoln, and still have a property there.. I'm stunned and not,  by the the comments on this thread, how privilege you are, questioning a cucumber to chicken prices, organic or not. My dad invested and had chickens on Codman farm,  4 decades ago. He did not have the stomach to

[LincolnTalk] Barn help wanted

2021-07-14 Thread Mary Crowe
Looking for stall cleaner for 3 stall barn and paddocks in Lincoln. Must have some experience with horses and be reliable.. $15 an hour- 2 hours work. Friendly low key environment. Start mid August 5 or 6 days a week. Mary Crowe (781-710-3552) -- The LincolnTalk mailing list. To post, send

[LincolnTalk] Deer hunting

2021-07-14 Thread dean stillings
Hello LT I am asking if there are any fellow Lincolnites that have a spot that I may be able to bow hunt for deer. Thank you for your time Dean -- The LincolnTalk mailing list. To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. Browse

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread Sara Mattes
If on checks the labels and notes who is the producer, and then looks at websites, it is usually not hard to figure out. A casual Google search can show you images of organic “factory” farms. Here is an article touting the qualities of just such a farm. Judge for yourself. And as for the

Re: [LincolnTalk] To add to the recent discussion about CCF and our fragile food chain.

2021-07-14 Thread Stephanie Smoot
all the free-range deer going to waste. Regards, *Stephanie Smoot* 857 368-9175 work 781 941-6842 personal cell *617 595-5217 *work cell 126 Chestnut Circle Lincoln, MA 01773 On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 12:01 PM Sara Mattes wrote: > Attached is a recent article from WaPo. > If you can

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread Sasha Golden
You can purchase what you want where you want. However, people don't realize that "organic" and "humane" are not the same thing. That's all. On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 3:42 PM V Saleme wrote: > OK, seeking specificity to your’ assurances such that I can make an > informed decision on where I

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread Kathryn Anagnostakis
There isn't currently any comparable chicken at grocery stores (maybe at deborahs?) - organic and pasture raised are two totally different labels and two totally different meanings. I have not seen true pasture raised chickens at Whole Foods for at least a year - and I check. You cannot compare

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread V Saleme
OK, seeking specificity to your’ assurances such that I can make an informed decision on where I purchase, cheers and thank you! —- On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 3:36 PM Sasha Golden wrote: > I can assure you that these are factory-farmed. You want to support an > industry that barely allows chickens

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread Sasha Golden
I can assure you that these are factory-farmed. You want to support an industry that barely allows chickens to move before they die so you can save a couple of bucks? Go ahead. On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:01 PM AWH wrote: > For some cost comparisons, here are some prices for organic boneless >

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread V Saleme
Sure it does, on Costco's site where this was gleaned from. On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 10:53 AM Leslie Turek wrote: > That policy doesn't actually state what the standards are. If you can > access the NYT, this article gives a different picture. > >

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread Nicholas Ribush
Ah, the non-vegans' dilemmas. Choose cruelty-free. On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:01 PM AWH wrote: > For some cost comparisons, here are some prices for organic boneless > chicken breasts: > Whole Foods 365 - > Tray $7.99 > Value pack $6.99 > Lincoln Donelans Bell and Evans - > Tray $12.99 > > What

[LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread garrick niemiec
Tom and Ruth Anne Real choose DrumlinCheck out the Drumlin Farmers Market -- The LincolnTalk mailing list. To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/.

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread AWH
For some cost comparisons, here are some prices for organic boneless chicken breasts: Whole Foods 365 - Tray $7.99 Value pack $6.99 Lincoln Donelans Bell and Evans - Tray $12.99 What are the actual prices for Codman chicken? > On Jul 14, 2021, at 9:24 AM, Joan Kimball wrote: > >  > Yes, but

Re: [LincolnTalk] Wanted: puppy things!

2021-07-14 Thread Margo Fisher-Martin
Hi, What kind of puppy? That will determine whether or not we have anything that might work for you. Congratulations! Cookie Martin On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 8:38 AM Elicia Epstein wrote: > Hi all, > > We are welcoming a new puppy to the home and wondering if anyone has some > old puppy supplies

[LincolnTalk] Goat Help

2021-07-14 Thread stacy osur
After 26 years, sadly we are leaving Lincoln to head out to the Berkshires. Our pack of five goats (the Rat Pack) are searching for somewhere to be boarded until we can fence in a play yard for them with a new shed out in the country. I'm happy to pay boarding, and supply feed, etc. They're

[LincolnTalk] Med͎. Dog crate needed

2021-07-14 Thread Comcast
If anyone has a medium size dog crate they no longer need or it’s gathering dust could you please call me. Thanks, Sally Hollister 781-259-9326 Sent from my iPad -- The LincolnTalk mailing list. To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. Search the archives at

[LincolnTalk] TAKEN -- Organic Insecticide

2021-07-14 Thread Kristin Cannistraro via Lincoln
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread Bob Kupperstein
Higher prices (with higher quality/natural methods) at Codman, might be an issue if it was, or was attempting to be, the sole or main supplier of food to the town. It's not, it's just an option - as is Donelan's, Market Basket, Costco, Stop and Shop, etc. If we want to compare prices, a fairer

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread Anne Warner
I appreciate this. Thank you. Anne On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 10:39 AM Sara Mattes wrote: > You might point out to your sister that Lincoln has been on the fore in > building affordable housing and that, if my memory is correct, 14% of our > housing is certified “affordable,” - I trust others can

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread Leslie Turek
That policy doesn't actually state what the standards are. If you can access the NYT, this article gives a different picture. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/06/opinion/sunday/costco-chicken-animal-welfare.html A few excerpts: Garcés wants Costco to sign up for the “Better Chicken Commitment,”

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread Sara Mattes
You might point out to your sister that Lincoln has been on the fore in building affordable housing and that, if my memory is correct, 14% of our housing is certified “affordable,” - I trust others can correct that number. Regardless, we have led the way. And, our investment in land, both as

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread John F. Carr
The book _The Dorito Effect_ (https://www.markschatzker.com/doritoeffect-home-page/) discusses the change in chicken farming after WW2 when the industry decided to optimize maximum pounds of meat per pound of feed in the shortest possible time. American consumers are impressed by size, by pounds

[LincolnTalk] Lincoln Public Library Weekly Update - July 14, 2021

2021-07-14 Thread Robin Rapoport
*UPDATE TO LIBRARY SERVICES* *As of June 1, appointments are no longer required to visit the library!* * Open hours July 1, 2021 – July 31, 2021* *Day* *Hours open* *Monday* *1:00 pm - 7:30 pm* *Tuesday* *9:00 am - 6:00 pm* *Wednesday* *9:00 am - 7:30 pm* *Thursday* *9:00 am- 7:30

[LincolnTalk] FREE: Organic Insecticide

2021-07-14 Thread Kristin Cannistraro via Lincoln
Captain Jack’s Deadbug organic insecticide concentrate and sprayer. Small amount used out of bottle; great for controlling the caterpillars that were decimating my hardy hibiscus leaves. House pickup. ~ Kristin-- The LincolnTalk mailing list. To post, send mail to

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread Anne Warner
I do understand that there are all sorts of good reasons why Codman charges so much. I'm not quarreling with that line of reason. I just think it is sad that Lincoln has a reputation for being an expensive place. On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 9:45 AM wayne vetrone wrote: > This is an interesting

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread V Saleme
Costco's animal welfare policy. How does this compare? Anything demonstrably better? POULTRY - Costco requires animal welfare audits at slaughter in accordance with the National Chicken Council (NCC) Recommended Animal Handling Guidelines. - Costco also audits hatchery and grow‐out

[LincolnTalk] Green Household products

2021-07-14 Thread susan winship
On October 23 SSEF will host a Supergreen event and will sell gently used children's clothing. We are also partnering with Mothers Out Front, Lincoln Green Energy Committee and the Sunrise Movement and hopefully a few more. We are also partnering with Donelons who we want to sell household goods

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread wayne vetrone
This is an interesting thread because the cost and labor structure at Codman is very different from a typical retailer or privately owned farm. On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 9:24 AM Joan Kimball wrote: > Yes, but Whole Foods can price lower because of quantity. You can see it > in food and flower

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread melinda bruno-smith
not Whole Foods—Amazon. Whole Foods has become a generic, unimaginative version of Bread and Circus. I remember the first health food store in nyc city —spring street in soho—creative, experimental, knowledgeable, purposeful, a little more expensive—somewhat like Codman… my two cents melinda

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread Joan Kimball
Yes, but Whole Foods can price lower because of quantity. You can see it in food and flower prices. They are a national chain. Codman and local farmers have locally grown food. Farm staff need to be paid fairly for this labor intensive food. And so we can choose, as Sara says. On Wed, Jul

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread Anne Warner
Stepping back from the commentary for a moment: my sister was up visiting me in Lincoln recently, and I took her by Codman Farms. She looked at the pricing, and was actually pretty shocked. The prices were so much higher than even the most expensive of the local markets (Whole Foods) for

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread Margaret Olson
Out of curiosity, I looked at images of chicken for sale at butcher shops in the early 40s (pre-factory farmed chicken). Then I compared 1940 prices to current prices...and discovered that Codman Farm chicken is almost exactly the same price as chicken was in the 1940s. Chicken was once Sunday

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread V Saleme
Someone please poke holes at Costco organic chicken? Been buying there, happy to divert to a better alternative if it exists. Thanks. On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 8:44 AM Lincoln Historical Society < lincolnmahistoricalsoci...@gmail.com> wrote: > Given all Adam has described, yes indeed! > > You

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread Lincoln Historical Society
Given all Adam has described, yes indeed! You have many choices - meat and chicken produced at large, factory farms, will of course be cheaper. Any meat/chicken sold through chain stores will be cheaper. You have that choice -it is locally available at Donelans, Market Basket, Costco. It is

[LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

2021-07-14 Thread garrick niemiec
AdamWhat about the frozen chicken and beef...reasonable? -- The LincolnTalk mailing list. To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. Change your

[LincolnTalk] Wanted: puppy things!

2021-07-14 Thread Elicia Epstein
Hi all, We are welcoming a new puppy to the home and wondering if anyone has some old puppy supplies they are looking to get rid of before we buy new at Petco or the likes! Specifically looking for a leash, collar, harness, treats, and toys in good / usable condition. If you have anything

[LincolnTalk] ISO tobacco pipe

2021-07-14 Thread tom bray
a free tobacco pipe(not a corncob pipe) to be used as a photo prop. Thanks. -- The LincolnTalk mailing list. To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/.