Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-02 Thread Debra Daugherty
Thank you for that information Margaret. The financial considerations I was talking about were those associated with the functioning of the housing complex after it is built. On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 8:25 AM Margaret Olson wrote: > Debra, > > On the town's side, almost every development with

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-02 Thread Debra Daugherty
I'm glad someone is asking about the financial situation for housing complexes with affordable housing units. I feel like people have been talking a lot about what they want in the way of affordable housing without discussing any of the details about how that program works financially. I think you

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread Sara Lupkas
The income thresholds are by area median income across the state, which makes sense as rents and median incomes are very different across Massachusetts: https://www.mass.gov/guides/how-to-apply-for-public-housing#:~:text=To%20be%20eligible%20for%20state,for%20the%20current%20income%20limits. Sara

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread Diana Smith
We are told that to qualify for the affordable units, tenants income can be at 80% of the town's median income which was $145,833 in 2021. So is it correct to assume that we will be subsidizing tenants with incomes up to $116,666? Diana On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 9:43 PM Robert Ahlert wrote: >

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread Robert Ahlert
Ok, not technical site plans. How about some 2D “design concepts” which include the full site? The real answer as to why they don’t have them is because they don’t need to have them. And they don’t need to have them because the plan is to get HCA zoning and then sell the property for top dollar.

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread John Mendelson
Yes, discussions have happened, meetings have taken place, but plans are **not** final. How many times does this need to be repeated? Listen to some Jethro Tull. Vote C. Good night. John On Fri, Dec 1, 2023, 9:32 PM Karla Gravis wrote: > This is absolutely **not** true. > > The HCAWG site

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread ٍSarah Postlethwait
“There are no basic site plans for the mall because there is no redevelopment plan for the mall right now. ” How generous of Andrew Consigli, the owner of Civico Development, to offer his free time to help Lincoln with our rezoning and bylaws out of the goodness of his heart. Also, Michelle

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread Karla Gravis
This is absolutely **not** true. The HCAWG site says the following: "RLF has been working with CIVICO to develop a vision for the Mall." ( https://www.lincolntown.org/1327/Housing-Choice-Act-Working-Group) Ms. Olson confirmed in writing: "The RLF has met with the town to explain what they would

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread Sara Lupkas
There are no basic site plans for the mall because there is no redevelopment plan for the mall right now. The HCA options that we will be voting on tomorrow are to decide where to put the multi-family zoning districts, that's it. There is no development plan for the mall at this time, and no

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread Garrick Niemiec
The system is flawed...our leadership knows it but continues to perpetuate it except for Sara Mattes...she works for democracy On Fri, Dec 1, 2023, 8:03 PM Robert Ahlert wrote: > I can imagine a person that votes for C now in December, but then feels > hoodwinked because he or she later learns

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread Lis Herbert
Yes — total nonsense.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 1, 2023, at 7:18 PM, DJCP wrote:What you're saying isn't even internally consistent. How does the Planning board keep decisions to itself AND put things up to vote at town meeting? On Fri, Dec 1, 2023, 6:03 PM Karla Gravis

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread Robert Ahlert
I can imagine a person that votes for C now in December, but then feels hoodwinked because he or she later learns about other details in the bylaws, that he or she which switch their vote to No in March. It would’ve been much cleaner if the planning board had published their draft bylaws by now.

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread Karla Gravis
With the approach taken, the PB will decide the ONE set of bylaws that will be up for vote in March. Let's see if an example helps. Height restrictions are an important part of the bylaws. Right now, the PB is considering allowing up to 48' (4 stories) in the Village Center. In March, the only

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread DJCP
What you're saying isn't even internally consistent. How does the Planning board keep decisions to itself AND put things up to vote at town meeting? On Fri, Dec 1, 2023, 6:03 PM Karla Gravis wrote: > I am confused with this answer. > > No one is denying zoning bylaws require a town meeting

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread Garrick Niemiec
You are SPOT ON guys...keep up the good work for fairness On Fri, Dec 1, 2023, 4:02 PM Karla Gravis wrote: > I am not suggesting that we bring multiple by-laws for approval at the > March town meeting. > > Tomorrow we are asking residents to express a preference for a set of > bylaws through

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread Robert Ahlert
Karla - think would just have to vote “Restart” (e.g No) in March and start this process all over which I think could be a good thing. Set a special town meeting for December 2024, layout a broader set of compliant options with the bylaws presented in parallel, with site guidelines updated and

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread Karla Gravis
I am confused with this answer. No one is denying zoning bylaws require a town meeting vote. In March, the options will be 1) a certain, specific set of bylaws (currently undetermined) or 2) nothing (aka: non-compliance). Tomorrow, on the other hand, we could have given residents the option to

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread Margaret Olson
Once again, zoning changes require a vote at town meeting. The planning board drafts the zoning and holds public hearings as required by law. The town then votes at town meeting. Once again zoning changes require a vote of town meeting. On Fri, Dec 1, 2023 at 4:53 PM ٍSarah Postlethwait wrote:

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread ٍSarah Postlethwait
The HCA is NOT a set of guidelines. The guidelines were created by the EOHLC. According to Ms Olson, "compliance with the HCA is "exactly zoning by laws". This is why knowing the bylaws for the proposed subdistricts is incredibly important. Why even vote on density and height restrictions

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread Robert Ahlert
Please go back and watch the planning board meetings, this is not obfuscation. These details are important part of the Zoning. Here are four examples of details that are in the zoning bylaws that no one seems to know about. 1 what percentage minimum commercial will be in the Village? 2. What

Re: [LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread John Mendelson
We are NOT being asked to vote on bylaws. The HCA is a set of guidelines and we are being asked to vote for one of 5 zoning options that conform (or perhaps don't confirm in one case) to said guidelines. We've been told repeatedly that bylaws are to follow and we will vote for one fully

[LincolnTalk] Voting on incomplete options

2023-12-01 Thread Karla Gravis
I am not suggesting that we bring multiple by-laws for approval at the March town meeting. Tomorrow we are asking residents to express a preference for a set of bylaws through ranked choice voting, The preferred option would then be presented for approval in March. Options C and D as being voted