Re: [LINK] AI, consciousness & perception (was Machine Learning)

2016-08-02 Thread Jim Birch
On 2 August 2016 at 23:01, David Lochrin wrote: > Why not make the same claim about other people? After all, they are just > physical stuff - wet logic circuits - they couldn't possibly have conscious > sensation. I mean, how could it work? > > In this case we propose to

Re: [LINK] ABS retribution?

2016-08-02 Thread Jan Whitaker
At 10:03 AM 3/08/2016, David Lochrin wrote: >On 2016-08-02 11:21 Jan Whitaker wrote: > >> BUT the ABS has another rock they can throw. A woman on ABC Melbourne this >> morning said she did a protest form last census and got caught up in the >> "special" census projects where you have to call in

Re: [LINK] All cars on Australian roads will be driverless by 2030 - Telstra

2016-08-02 Thread Jim Birch
Always ask: 90% of what? Jim ___ Link mailing list Link@mailman.anu.edu.au http://mailman.anu.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/link

Re: [LINK] defining a geographic location in three words

2016-08-02 Thread Jim Birch
The words should be Esperanto, to fully remove local ownership. :| Jim On 2 August 2016 at 22:34, Kim Holburn wrote: > https://map.what3words.com/about > > There’s mobile apps etc > > -- > Kim Holburn > IT Network & Security Consultant > T: +61 2 61402408 M: +61 404072753 >

Re: [LINK] All cars on Australian roads will be driverless by 2030 - Telstra

2016-08-02 Thread David Boxall
On 2/08/2016 11:10 PM, David Lochrin wrote: ... following past precedent, ... Only the recent past; after Australia came down with Privatisation Psychosis. ... we could have a Telstra road network, an Optus one, one by NRMA Your precedent would see the most profitable markets served to

Re: [LINK] ABS retribution?

2016-08-02 Thread Roger Clarke
>On 2016-08-02 11:21 Jan Whitaker wrote: >> BUT the ABS has another rock they can throw. A woman on ABC Melbourne this >> morning said she did a protest form last census and got caught up in the >> "special" census projects where you have to call in and tell them stuff >> weekly for MONTHS. At

Re: [LINK] ABS retribution?

2016-08-02 Thread David Lochrin
On 2016-08-02 11:21 Jan Whitaker wrote: > BUT the ABS has another rock they can throw. A woman on ABC Melbourne this > morning said she did a protest form last census and got caught up in the > "special" census projects where you have to call in and tell them stuff > weekly for MONTHS. Can

Re: [LINK] All cars on Australian roads will be driverless by 2030 - Telstra

2016-08-02 Thread JanW
At 07:53 AM 3/08/2016, Nicholas English wrote: >The ancestors of all great Australian adventures in infrastructure are rail >and water. 100 years latter we are still paying to fix them both. >There's no need to learn when an investor can get a return. The 'gift' that keeps on giving - like a

Re: [LINK] All cars on Australian roads will be driverless by 2030 - Telstra

2016-08-02 Thread Nicholas English
>>> “My expectation is that governments will very quickly ­realise that they >>> need to make them mandatory to help overcome the statistic that 90 per cent >>> of road accidents are caused by human error,’’ he said, adding that they >>> would first need to agree on safety and communi­cations

[LINK] AI, consciousness & perception (was Machine Learning)

2016-08-02 Thread David Lochrin
On 2016-08-02 10:11 Jim Birch wrote: > On 28 July 2016 at 16:52, David Lochrin wrote: >> Until quite recently people would have commonly said it arises from your >> immortal soul, and animals are mere machines because they don't have one. >> But I'm not going there. > > >

[LINK] defining a geographic location in three words

2016-08-02 Thread Kim Holburn
https://map.what3words.com/about There’s mobile apps etc -- Kim Holburn IT Network & Security Consultant T: +61 2 61402408 M: +61 404072753 mailto:k...@holburn.net aim://kimholburn skype://kholburn - PGP Public Key on request ___ Link mailing

Re: [LINK] All cars on Australian roads will be driverless by 2030 - Telstra

2016-08-02 Thread Bernard Robertson-Dunn
On 2/08/2016 9:54 PM, Roger Clarke wrote: > At 21:30 +1000 2/8/16, David Boxall wrote: >>> "My expectation is that governments will very quickly °©realise that they >>> need to make them mandatory to help overcome the statistic that 90 per cent >>> of road accidents are caused by human error,''

Re: [LINK] All cars on Australian roads will be driverless by 2030 - Telstra

2016-08-02 Thread JanW
At 09:54 PM 2/08/2016, Roger Clarke wrote: >Alright, I'm up for it. > >I'm prepared to make the prediction that, after autonomous cars take over, 90 >percent of road accidents will be caused by machine error. Made me laugh. Alternative: the network made me do it. Jan I write books.

Re: [LINK] All cars on Australian roads will be driverless by 2030 - Telstra

2016-08-02 Thread Roger Clarke
At 21:30 +1000 2/8/16, David Boxall wrote: >> "My expectation is that governments will very quickly °©realise that they >> need to make them mandatory to help overcome the statistic that 90 per cent >> of road accidents are caused by human error,'' he said, ... Alright, I'm up for it. I'm

[LINK] All cars on Australian roads will be driverless by 2030 - Telstra

2016-08-02 Thread David Boxall
“My expectation is that governments will very quickly ­realise that they need to make them mandatory to help overcome the statistic that 90 per cent of road accidents are caused by human error,’’ he said, adding that they would first need to agree on safety and communi­cations standards before