BRD wrote:
And the idea that robots and/or autonomous vehicles can predict
> consequences
>
Doesn't a robot - or a human driver - in effect make a prediction when they
apply the brakes? I say "in effect" because the world does not actually
run on "predictions". In Kahneman terms of slow and
On 2016-07-22 10:34 Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote:
> If you live on the Northern Beaches of Sydney (Tony Abbott's and Bronwyn
> Bishop's (old) electorates) there are no trams, no trains and two bridges
> (Spit and Roseville) into the city.
>
> They are building a big new hospital a few km's
On 22/07/2016 10:16 AM, David Lochrin wrote:
> On 2016-07-21 23:54 Stephen Loosley wrote:
>
>> Seems to me that future vehicle “black boxes” will be networked clouds.
>>
>> Properly done, each vehicle will have it’s own IP address, and be connected
>> with and communicate with surrounding
> At 10:27 PM 21/07/2016, Chris Maltby wrote:
> >The other audit capability is the (incomplete) counts of senate
> >first preferences by group that was conducted manually in polling
> >booths on election night. This data is available for statistical
> >comparison with the booth-by-booth final vote
BRD wrote:
> Do you suppose Tesla will be required to make their source code
> available for scrutiny if things get to court?
Do you suppose that anyone could understand it? A multilayer neural
network is essentially a black box. Presumably Tesla's cars have a bunch
of virtual neural
On Thu 2016-07-21 16:59:02 UTC+1000, Jim Birch (planet...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > Do you suppose Tesla will be required to make their source code
> > available for scrutiny if things get to court?
>
>
> Do you suppose that anyone could understand it? A multilayer neural
> network is essentially
On 07/21/2016 05:20 PM, andrew clarke wrote:
On Thu 2016-07-21 16:59:02 UTC+1000, Jim Birch (planet...@gmail.com) wrote:
Do you suppose Tesla will be required to make their source code
available for scrutiny if things get to court?
Do you suppose that anyone could understand it? A
At 17:13 +1000 21/7/16, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote:
>BTW, Asimov's laws of robotics have been well and truly debunked. ...
I was kinder than to say 'debunked' (:-)}
And Asimov's own fiction extended the set from the nominal 3 to 5+2:
http://www.rogerclarke.com/SOS/Asimov.html#LawsExt
>They
On 21/07/2016 4:59 PM, Jim Birch wrote:
> BRD wrote:
>
>
>> Do you suppose Tesla will be required to make their source code
>> available for scrutiny if things get to court?
>
> Do you suppose that anyone could understand it?
So what will the court's reaction be if nobody can understand it?
A
>BRD wrote:
>> Do you suppose Tesla will be required to make their source code
>> available for scrutiny if things get to court?
At 16:59 +1000 21/7/16, Jim Birch wrote:
>Do you suppose that anyone could understand it? A multilayer neural
>network is essentially a black box. Presumably Tesla's
On 2016-07-21 17:13 Bernard Robertson wrote:
> BTW, Asimov's laws of robotics have been well and truly debunked. They fail
> when you instruct several robots to perform certain actions which, to
> individual robots, are innocuous, but when taken in combination, are lethal
And Asimov's "laws of
The key (as David says) is auditability of the process.
The new system of counting is effectively fully electronic, but
scrutineers can watch the data entry process of a clerk which will
be compared with a successful OCR of the scan. The scrutineer can
also request and be shown the physical paper
On 21/07/2016 5:36 PM, David Lochrin wrote:
> On 2016-07-21 17:13 Bernard Robertson wrote:
>
>> BTW, Asimov's laws of robotics have been well and truly debunked. They fail
>> when you instruct several robots to perform certain actions which, to
>> individual robots, are innocuous, but when taken
On 21/07/2016 16:59, Jim Birch wrote:
BRD wrote:
Do you suppose Tesla will be required to make their source code
available for scrutiny if things get to court?
Do you suppose that anyone could understand it? A multilayer neural
network is essentially a black box.
Tinker With a Neural
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