[LINK] Fwd: Facebook AI is stupid

2020-04-23 Thread jwhit
- Original Message - From: jw...@internode.on.net To: "link" Cc: Sent: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:14:34 +1000 Subject: Facebook AI is stupid Interesting article about Facebook paid ads being allowed that are obviously misinformation. This is scary. Relying on AI is not a good thing when

[LINK] Fwd: More about "that app" - storing in America? Key stored with the database?

2020-04-23 Thread jwhit
- Original Message - From: jw...@internode.on.net To: "Privacy List" , "link" Cc: Sent: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 10:57:03 +1000 Subject: More about "that app" - storing in America? Key stored with the database? Now, what could go wrong.

Re: [LINK] How will the coronavirus app work?

2020-04-23 Thread Harry McNally
On 24/4/20 5:47 am, Tom Worthington wrote: On 23/4/20 9:59 am, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: How will the coronavirus app work? ... It won't work. With only 17% of Singapore residents using a similar app, I would expect the Australian take up to be less than 10%. This is far short of the

Re: [LINK] Fwd: Facebook AI is stupid

2020-04-23 Thread Bernard Robertson-Dunn
It's a long weekend Friday. This might lighten the mood. I wrote it in the early 1990s only a few years after the Expert System/AI/5th Generation/Multi-Function-Polis hype. Artificial Intelligence - A State of the Art For many years philosophers, scientists, engineers and people with nothing

Re: [LINK] How will the coronavirus app work?

2020-04-23 Thread Harry McNally
On 23/4/20 10:17 pm, Glen Turner wrote: Harry McNally wrote: If the phone has logged that anonymous ID as an exposure then the user is notified by the app to seek testing immediately. One of the things we learned during the HIV crisis is that seeking a test has to be combined with education,

[LINK] More about "that app" - storing in America? Key stored with the database?

2020-04-23 Thread jwhit
Now, what could go wrong. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-24/amazon-to-provide-cloud-services-for-coronavirus-tracing-app/12176682 ___ Link mailing list Link@mailman.anu.edu.au http://mailman.anu.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/link

[LINK] Facebook AI is stupid

2020-04-23 Thread jwhit
Interesting article about Facebook paid ads being allowed that are obviously misinformation. This is scary.Relying on AI is not a good thing when the bad results can kill you. We had a funny example today when an English post that included a bunch of names was thought to be Danish and

[LINK] Bluetooth contact tracing needs bigger, better data

2020-04-23 Thread Bernard Robertson-Dunn
[Technically, using Bluetooth isn't as good or easy as the [government would like us to believe. Especially with older phones Bluetooth contact tracing needs bigger, better data https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/22/1000353/bluetooth-contact-tracing-needs-bigger-better-data/ MIT Technology

Re: [LINK] How will the coronavirus app work?

2020-04-23 Thread Harry McNally
Roger, I don't know if this design has been considered (I haven't been following the discussion) but could the marco-polo between phones (that exceeds the 15 minute exposure) log the anonymous ID to the respective phones ? Then, when an infection is detected an anonymous ID is broadcast to

Re: [LINK] How will the coronavirus app work?

2020-04-23 Thread Glen Turner
Harry McNally wrote: > If the phone has logged that anonymous ID as an exposure then the > user is notified by the app to seek testing immediately. One of the things we learned during the HIV crisis is that seeking a test has to be combined with education, counselling and empathy. This argues for

Re: [LINK] How will the coronavirus app work?

2020-04-23 Thread Tom Worthington
On 23/4/20 9:59 am, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: How will the coronavirus app work? ... It won't work. With only 17% of Singapore residents using a similar app, I would expect the Australian take up to be less than 10%. This is far short of the 80% needed for the App to be effective. I