Re: [LINK] The NSA Mission Statement

2013-11-24 Thread stephen
Karl thoughtfully writes, > > This NSA document is(was) the National Security > > Agency Mission Statement. > > [...] > > What a laugh, you NSA cowboy idiots. > > .. someone who is trying to shoot you is a very dangerous opponent, > even if, for the moment, their shots are all wide. And someone w

Re: [LINK] The NSA Mission Statement

2013-11-24 Thread jore
On 25/11/2013 1:37 PM, Jan Whitaker wrote: > At 12:09 PM 25/11/2013, jore wrote: >> But if your point is about so-called "al-Qaeda", give me a break. That's >> another million dollar, million page scam that everyone has conviently >> forgot too. And it's another that's well documented: They were fu

Re: [LINK] The NSA Mission Statement

2013-11-24 Thread Jan Whitaker
At 12:09 PM 25/11/2013, jore wrote: >But if your point is about so-called "al-Qaeda", give me a break. That's >another million dollar, million page scam that everyone has conviently >forgot too. And it's another that's well documented: They were funded, >trained and protected by the United States d

Re: [LINK] The NSA Mission Statement

2013-11-24 Thread Karl Auer
On Sun, 2013-11-24 at 11:09 +, step...@melbpc.org.au wrote: > This NSA document is(was) the National Security Agency Mission Statement. > [...] > What a laugh, you NSA cowboy idiots. They may not have succeeded in their stated aims - but they may still be trying to and their stated aims may n

Re: [LINK] The NSA Mission Statement

2013-11-24 Thread jore
On 25/11/2013 7:28 AM, Jan Whitaker wrote: > At 12:10 AM 25/11/2013, jore wrote: >> For example, the best bits I like is evidence of ASIO *supporting* and >> *protecting* terrorist groups such as the Croatian Ustaše by safely >> trafficking them into Australia... > Like they always say, one spook's

Re: [LINK] Kids shoot a hole in LA iPad plan

2013-11-24 Thread Rick Welykochy
Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: > Another, ill conceived technology driven solution to a badly thought > through problem. > > In fact, I don't know what their problem actually is and I doubt that > the LA School District did either. > > The Australian reported this today, but the story has been arou

Re: [LINK] Kids shoot a hole in LA iPad plan

2013-11-24 Thread Bernard Robertson-Dunn
On 25/11/2013 9:31 AM, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote: > Another, ill conceived technology driven solution to a badly thought > through problem. Sorry about the lack of attention to the formatting of that email... Monday morning-itis. -- Regards brd Bernard Robertson-Dunn Sydney Australia email

Re: [LINK] The NSA Mission Statement

2013-11-24 Thread Jim Birch
This is an interesting piece on the uselessness of spying from John Quiggin. His argument is less about moral transgression and more about the practical issue of it being a waste or resources. You don't get a lot for a billion dollars dollars: "I’ve long maintained the view that spies never disc

Re: [LINK] Perfect Forward Secrecy

2013-11-24 Thread Jim Birch
I thought Twitter was for broadcasting to anyone willing to listen? - Jim On 23 November 2013 21:43, Frank O'Connor wrote: > Mmmm, > > Aside from the growing efficacy of brute force decryption and other > methods made available by increasing CPU/GPU grunt, the key storage > vulnerability is the

[LINK] Kids shoot a hole in LA iPad plan

2013-11-24 Thread Bernard Robertson-Dunn
Another, ill conceived technology driven solution to a badly thought through problem. In fact, I don't know what their problem actually is and I doubt that the LA School District did either. The Australian reported this today, but the story has been around for a while. Kids shoot a hole in LA

Re: [LINK] The NSA Mission Statement

2013-11-24 Thread Jan Whitaker
At 12:10 AM 25/11/2013, jore wrote: >For example, the best bits I like is evidence of ASIO *supporting* and >*protecting* terrorist groups such as the Croatian Ustaše by safely >trafficking them into Australia... Like they always say, one spook's terrorist is another spook's freedom fighter, and

Re: [LINK] The NSA Mission Statement

2013-11-24 Thread jore
On 24/11/2013 10:09 PM, step...@melbpc.org.au wrote: > ... > > ... For what it's worth, I regard the NSA as an IDIOT gang of > illegal, criminal thugs. Also perhaps, international terrorists themselves. Totally, indeed, and as we see. One great book (of many) that comes to mind about this very p

[LINK] The NSA Mission Statement

2013-11-24 Thread stephen
This NSA document is(was) the National Security Agency Mission Statement. It was intended to cover the 2012-2016 period, and was written early 2012 just before Snowden’s leaks, so it illuminates NSA official thinking before Snowden upset their political plotting. Bear in mind, when reading it,