Re: [LINK] Peter Martin Economist (?) blames Labor for NBN!

2017-08-17 Thread Frank O'Connor
But, an interesting and very-much-to-the-point rant. For the record, the same thing happens to me every time I comment on the LNP's farcical (and tragic for the country) NBN. A waste of money, time, and effort and a compromise of the country's future for the next 20 to thirty years ... all

Re: [LINK] Peter Martin Economist (?) blames Labor for NBN!

2017-08-16 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 10:38:42AM +1000, David Lochrin wrote: > And neither HFC nor the copper network were engineered to be part of a > broadband network in the first place HFC is basically cable TV repurposed for internet use. Which might have made sense in the US where cable tv is almost

Re: [LINK] Peter Martin Economist (?) blames Labor for NBN!

2017-08-09 Thread Andy Farkas
On 10/08/2017 09:50, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Which bit of his argument do you disagree with? "There's nothing inherent in the NBN that's strangling its speed and giving customers grief; it's inherent in the pricing model it adopted to make it look as if it could make money." It's not clear

Re: [LINK] Peter Martin Economist (?) blames Labor for NBN!

2017-08-09 Thread David Boxall
On 10/08/2017 10:38 AM, David Lochrin wrote: On Thursday 10 August 2017 at 09:50 Hamish Moffatt wrote: ... Right up front Peter Martin quotes "Australia's foremost telecommunications analyst" Ian Martin ... Wasn't there an Ian Martin involved in the 2013 strategic review? -- David Boxall

Re: [LINK] Peter Martin Economist (?) blames Labor for NBN!

2017-08-09 Thread Roger Clarke
> On 10/08/17 09:10, Jan Whitaker wrote: >>> I'm in a twitter argument with him. He doesn't understand technology. >>> Please come and help out, set him straight. @1petermartin At 2:06 PM +1000 10/8/17, Kim Holburn wrote: >How many years now have the Libs been managing the NBN? If the Labor

Re: [LINK] Peter Martin Economist (?) blames Labor for NBN!

2017-08-09 Thread David Lochrin
On Thursday 10 August 2017 at 12:05 Jim Birch wrote: > $50 billion for a national FTTN network is a lot of money. This very close > to the Australia's annual expenditure on road infrastructure. The value has > been estimated at $280 billion. I don't have a split for maintenance v. >

Re: [LINK] Peter Martin Economist (?) blames Labor for NBN!

2017-08-09 Thread Kim Holburn
> On 2017/Aug/10, at 9:50 AM, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > On 10/08/17 09:10, Jan Whitaker wrote: >> Did you all see this today: >> http://www.theage.com.au/comment/dodgy-from-the-start-dont-blame-turnbull-for-labors-flawed-nbn-20170809-gxsa5v.html >> >> I'm in a twitter

Re: [LINK] Peter Martin Economist (?) blames Labor for NBN!

2017-08-09 Thread Jim Birch
$50 billion for a national FTTN network is a lot of money. This very close to the Australia's annual expenditure on road infrastructure. The value has been estimated at $280 billion. I don't have a split for maintenance v. improvement. A per premise cost of $4k for FTTN as 25 years loan at 4%

Re: [LINK] Peter Martin Economist (?) blames Labor for NBN!

2017-08-09 Thread David Lochrin
On Thursday 10 August 2017 at 09:50 Hamish Moffatt wrote: > Which bit of his argument do you disagree with? Right up front Peter Martin quotes "Australia's foremost telecommunications analyst" Ian Martin - any relation? "Let's be clear, technology is not the issue in slow speeds," he wrote in