Piping LPD - SFTP

2003-09-18 Thread Lucius, Leland
Anybody know of a simple way of piping data from an LPD server to an SFTP server? I've banged together a simple filter that works, but I was just wondering if I even need to do that. Thanks much, Leland

VM VSE linux/390 Employment Web Page

2003-09-18 Thread Dennis G. Wicks
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Re: FTP server

2003-09-18 Thread Daniel Jarboe
Depending on the functionality you require, you could consider pure-ftpd. For example, it can be configured to run a command/script every time a file upload completes. ~ Daniel -Original Message- From: CGVMER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 11:30 PM To:

Re: swapfile over 2G on 64bit

2003-09-18 Thread James Melin
Actually, you might get more efficient swap activity if you have 4 1 GB swap areas on 4 different devices. That way you're not single threading to a single device. While you're at it, if you have VM, allocate a VM minidisk in memory, say maybe 64 megabytes, and give THAT a higher swap priority

Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-18 Thread Daniel Jarboe
Management here is getting serious about a support contract for linux on the mainframe, and asked me to poll reasons why people/organizations may have chosen one distro over the other on s/390 (specifically RedHat vs SuSE). In the archives most of the arguments in favor of redhat revolve around:

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-18 Thread John Cassidy
Hello, From my experience with a customer in Luxembourg, Suse were quite prompt in answering E-Mail requests / queries etc. Another (not unimportant) point - Nuernberg is not very far from Stuttgart which is not very far from IBM Regards, John D. Cassidy Dipl.-Ing (Informatique)

Re: Piping LPD - SFTP

2003-09-18 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 01:51, Lucius, Leland wrote: Anybody know of a simple way of piping data from an LPD server to an SFTP server? I've banged together a simple filter that works, but I was just wondering if I even need to do that. Netcat? (note: utterly untested)

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-18 Thread Ryan Ware
Actually I think this from the OP answeres the question SuSE arguments typically revolve around: first on s/390, work more closely with s/390 community, and GA SuSE at more current patch-levels than RH (particularly where s/390 or VM is concerned). It sounds like Suse is the better choice for

MQ Server Linux 390

2003-09-18 Thread Geiger, Michael
Anyone know the IBM product number for WebSphere MQ for Linux/390 or Linux for z-series? Looking through the IBM sales manual has not helped any. Thank you, Michael A. Geiger

Re: MQ Server Linux 390

2003-09-18 Thread Sergey Korzhevsky
Look at this http://www-3.ibm.com/software/integration/wmq/v53/g325-1983-02.pdf Program information ? Program number: 5724-B41 ? Part number: BA08TML ? Language features: multilingual ? Available as media packs or software download btw, i've got this link from IBMSoftwareOnLinux.pdf

Re: swapfile over 2G on 64bit

2003-09-18 Thread Post, Mark K
As others have already stated, absolutely. I have to wonder, though, just what kind of performance is going to be achieved if a single Linux/390 system ever has 4GB of storage actually swapped out. That sounds pretty, ummm, _slow_ to me. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Tom

Re: swapfile over 2G on 64bit

2003-09-18 Thread Sergey Korzhevsky
18.09.2003 17:53:18 Post, Mark K wrote: Who said about 4GB? Actually, it will be 7GB :) We are planning to install SAP. I agree with you, Mark, it will be as slow as possible :) As others have already stated, absolutely. I have to wonder, though, just what kind of performance is going to be

Re: MQ Server Linux 390

2003-09-18 Thread Amanda Bright
WebSphere MQ Base V5.3.1 -- part number for the multilingual media pack is BA05TML Cheers, Amanda Bright, Technical Strategist: Linux IBM Software Group--Somers/Toronto Dept. SWG Technical Strategy Tieline: 969-2495 Phone: 905-413-2495 FAX: 905-413-4928 Tieline: 969-4928 Internet: [EMAIL

Re: SLES and non-OSA Ethernet?

2003-09-18 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 09/17/2003 at 03:30 AST, Nick Laflamme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool, I didn't realize OSAs were similar enough to Really Old Technology that this would work. And to tie a bow on it, the IBM 3172 emulated the even older IBM 8232 LAN Channel Station (from which the abbreviation LCS

Re: swapfile over 2G on 64bit

2003-09-18 Thread Rich Smrcina
So how much 'real' storage will it have, how much will it 'need' and what is the requirement for so much swap? On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 09:58, Sergey Korzhevsky wrote: 18.09.2003 17:53:18 Post, Mark K wrote: Who said about 4GB? Actually, it will be 7GB :) We are planning to install SAP. I

Re: MQ Server Linux 390

2003-09-18 Thread Geiger, Michael
Thank you Amanda and Sergey. That is just what I needed. As I have SLES8 I meet all the requirements. Now to determine how to order it via PWD. Michael A. Geiger

Re: swapfile over 2G on 64bit

2003-09-18 Thread Post, Mark K
To a certain extent, but think about it. 7GB (Sergey says 7GB, so I'll go with that) of _swapped_out_storage_. Why is so much storage swapped out? What's in it? What happens if you need it? I find it a little hard to believe that that much storage will be all that idle. Hence, my comment

Re: 2003-09-18 Linux for zSeries code drop to developerWorks

2003-09-18 Thread Post, Mark K
Well, I didn't see anything in here that would address the compilation error in ctrlchar.c when CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ is not set. Is anyone looking at that? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Gerhard Hiller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:34 AM To: [EMAIL

Re: swapfile over 2G on 64bit

2003-09-18 Thread Sergey Korzhevsky
Now, i don't know how much swap space will be used. I've read about this 7GB in ibm's redbook about SAP on zLinux (SAP's redbook wants 20GB :). So, I've started from seven. When i run SAP, i'll see the real requirements. ps: 'real' storage = 512M. WBR, Sergey Post, Mark K [EMAIL

Re: swapfile over 2G on 64bit

2003-09-18 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 11:38, Sergey Korzhevsky wrote: Now, i don't know how much swap space will be used. I've read about this 7GB in ibm's redbook about SAP on zLinux (SAP's redbook wants 20GB :). So, I've started from seven. When i run SAP, i'll see the real requirements. ps: 'real'

Re: Is Linux on z/VM suitable for large workloads

2003-09-18 Thread David Boyes
Having received a response from Mark and Tom I would ask the following question, what is the feeling among the group about consolidating a couple hundred Unix servers running WebSphere and databases onto Linux/390 under z/VM. I guess to better phrase it based on Tom's response, would

Funny comments in /etc/termcap

2003-09-18 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Hi list, I was just grepping through /etc (RHEL-3) for some reason I've already forgotten when I stumbled onto some humorous comments. Enjoy: # COPYRIGHTS AND OTHER DELUSIONS # # The BSD ancestor of this file had a standard Regents of the University of # California copyright with dates from 1980

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-18 Thread Wilson, Eric
My two cents: At this point the differences between the two distributions are fairly negligable. It seems that in the beginning, SuSE had the distinct advantage. but now it just seems like a leap frog of versions and levels. SuSE seems to be somewhat of an early adopter, but the pavlovian

Re: Any new SuSE vs RedHat arguments?

2003-09-18 Thread John Cassidy
Forgive my terrible cringing humility and my four (Euro) cents, But I would go with Software und System Entwicklung, the people they have / had supporting 390 issues, were fit, surprisingly fit. John D. Cassidy Dipl.-Ing (Informatique) S390 zSeries Systems engineering Schleswigstr. 7

chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Little, Chris
I'm trying to change the ownership of a file that I as user oracle own to user u55646 the following occurs -rw-r--r--1 u55646 dba 583 2003-09-18 13:01 rfc1953.log -rw-rw-rw-1 oracle oinstall 418 2003-09-18 12:55 rfc1953.sql -rw-r--r--1 oracle oinstall 583

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Post, Mark K
You need to be root to do that. One user cannot change file ownerships to another user. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Little, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: chown problems I'm trying to change the

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Rich Smrcina
The man page on RHL 9.0 shows the format as: chown u55646:dba rfc1953.sql On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 14:47, Little, Chris wrote: I'm trying to change the ownership of a file that I as user oracle own to user u55646 the following occurs -rw-r--r--1 u55646 dba 583 2003-09-18 13:01

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Operation not permitted Only root can chown. -Mike MacIsaac, IBM mikemac at us.ibm.com (845) 433-7061

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Guillaume Morin
I'm trying to change the ownership of a file that I as user oracle own to user u55646 the following occurs Short version: Linux does not allow non-privileged use of chown. You have to be root to do it. Longer version: Actually Linux supports capabilities. You can give the capability to use

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Rich Smrcina
OK, scratch that... I tried it your way and the period is accepted. On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 14:47, Little, Chris wrote: I'm trying to change the ownership of a file that I as user oracle own to user u55646 the following occurs -rw-r--r--1 u55646 dba 583 2003-09-18 13:01

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Ryan Ware
Everybody wang chown tonight ;) -Original Message- From: Michael MacIsaac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 2:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: chown problems Operation not permitted Only root can chown. -Mike MacIsaac, IBM mikemac at

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Post, Mark K
A period works just as well (I use it all the time out of habit). He's not getting a syntax error, it's permissions related. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: chown

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Little, Chris
yuck. coming from HP-UX, it allows you to give a file to another owner. -Original Message- From: Post, Mark K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 2:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: chown problems You need to be root to do that. One user cannot

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 15:00, Little, Chris wrote: yuck. coming from HP-UX, it allows you to give a file to another owner. Huge security hole. Adam

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Little, Chris
yeah. but it is convenient for my HP-UX users and they are now peeved. Another thing to listen to them complain about. -Original Message- From: Adam Thornton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: chown problems On

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Daniel Martin
I believe the ability to give away a file that you intially own is a posix-ism. Not having a copy of the spec handy to look at, I can't cite page-and-paragraph -- but it seems to me that the posix-ish behavior is to not allow non-privileged file owners to chown a file to some other user. I know

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Guillaume Morin
Huge security hole Why ? The systems which allow the non-privileged use of chown drops the setgid and setuid bits when changing the owner. -- Guillaume Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Poughkeepsie SAK Kernel Development On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 15:00, Little, Chris wrote: yuck. coming from HP-UX,

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Rich Smrcina
Actually reading the text of the man page showed me that a period is also acceptable... :) On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 14:57, Post, Mark K wrote: A period works just as well (I use it all the time out of habit). He's not getting a syntax error, it's permissions related. Mark Post -Original

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 15:10, Guillaume Morin wrote: Huge security hole Why ? The systems which allow the non-privileged use of chown drops the setgid and setuid bits when changing the owner. Do all of them? Because, yes, that's the hole I was thinking of. Adam

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Guillaume Morin
yuck. coming from HP-UX, it allows you to give a file to another owner. So install sudo and give those users the right to use chown without any password. Adding something like alias chown='sudo chown'. Linux drops the setuid and setgid bits when changing ownership. Guillaume. -- Guillaume

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Guillaume Morin
Do all of them? Because, yes, that's the hole I was thinking of. I would not bet on the all. It is too easy to get bitten by that one :) But iirc POSIX requires that for unprivileged use. (there is no standard for privileged use). Guillaume. -- Guillaume Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Little, Chris
i just talked to them and introduced the wonderful world of groups and chgrp. that might be better and more organized. -Original Message- From: Guillaume Morin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: chown problems

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Alex deVries
I suppose if you really didn't like this behaviour, you could write your own setuid version of chown. - Alex Little, Chris wrote: yeah. but it is convenient for my HP-UX users and they are now peeved. Another thing to listen to them complain about. -Original Message- From: Adam Thornton

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Guillaume Morin
Dans un message du 18 sep ` 16:24, Alex deVries icrivait : I suppose if you really didn't like this behaviour, you could write your own setuid version of chown. It is best way to open an huge security hole. It is better to use sudo. -- Guillaume Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian - What

Re: chown problems

2003-09-18 Thread Alan Cox
On Iau, 2003-09-18 at 21:06, Daniel Martin wrote: I believe the ability to give away a file that you intially own is a posix-ism. Not having a copy of the spec handy to look at, I can't cite page-and-paragraph -- but it seems to me that the posix-ish behavior is to not allow non-privileged

z/VM and VMware

2003-09-18 Thread Richard Troth
Has anyone done any correlation between VMware and z/VM? I mean ... concepts. We had a list some time back, FREEVM-L, where we discussed a spec (no code, just the high-level stuff) for a common hypervisor design. Some things are common between z/VM and VMware. Many things are unique. I'd

Re: z/VM and VMware

2003-09-18 Thread Rich Smrcina
I've actually just started using VMWare. It is pretty cool, I have 2 W2K machines (one is a template) and a W98 machine. I've been successful at cloning the W2K machine and I want to also be able to clone the W98 machine. I just have to copy the virtual file system and edit a couple of

Re: z/VM and VMware

2003-09-18 Thread David Heilman
I've been running it under Linux for about 4 years now. I started using VMWare when you could get a hobby license. I run Windows NT on my Linux lap top and run 3 different levels and distribution of linux under linux on my desk top along with Windows NT. It all works great. If I had a 390 system I