On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 17:06:03 -0500
From: Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux ready for the desktop: IBM
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 07:30:39PM +0800, John
Greetings; (Posted to VMESA-L and VSE-L and LINUX-390)
- - Now in its sixth year! - - Includes VSE and linux/390!
I have set up a public service web page at
http://www.eskimo.com/~wix/vm/
for posting positions available and wanted for VM, VSE and linux/390.
Please visit the web
-Original Message-
From: Phil Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've lain in the bath a few times over the last few months
(no smart remarks - usually I
shower) and contemplated the idea of free software.
I've come to the conclusion that it's inevitable and
unavoidable, and the main
Phil,
My grandfather on my father's side started a second family at 61 and lived
to be 90. My father stared his family in his 30's. Family tradition has is
that my grandfather was a blacksmith who became a car mechanic. I'm not sure
how accurate the family story is but it is a good story. One has
My thanks to those who responded with the info.
For the sake of clarity, I wanted a way to replace
the entire lot. I know the latest version of Samba
will let me do the PDC/BDC stuff, but I didn't
know how to replace the client workstations.
My thanks also to those who contacted me offline,
Other than downloading all the files individually is there another way to
get SP3 ?.
Regards
Gerard
-Original Message-
From: Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 November 2003 04:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SuSE SLES8 SP3 ISO images
For those of you with
Not directly from SuSE without a maintenance contract.
If you DO have a contract, the links to the ISO images are just a little bit down the
page, just under Indications.
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Ceruti, Gerard G
Sent: Thursday,
Thanks Ken
It pays to read the complete page before running off.
Thanks
Gerard
-Original Message-
From: Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 November 2003 03:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SuSE SLES8 SP3 ISO images
Not directly from SuSE without a
A more recent example is in the model railroading field. Not many years ago,
command control systems for model trains were all proprietary, with several
manufacturers offering their own systems. Then an open standard system was
introduced, and now the proprietary systems have disappeared from the
OK, Peter, now tell me how I'm supposed to get any work done today! Great link,
thanks.
Cheers,,,Steve
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission
If you want to wallow in the mud, quotes from SCO.
Hello,
Up until now, I have been dedicating entire 3390 volumes for my linux ROOT. Now I
want to switch to minidisks so that I can share the DASD between multiple Linux
Instances. I would normally use DDR in VM to clone my Image, but DDR is a
byte-by-byte copy. Can I copy from a full
Gene,
Is your minidisk going to be a full volume? If so, then there is no need
to do anything. Just change the directory entry to use an MDISK statement
where the starting cylinder is 0 and the ending cylinder is END. This
assumes that you are using CDL formatted Linux volumes.
I doubt that there
I
would normally use DDR in VM to clone my Image, but DDR is a
byte-by-byte copy. Can I copy from a full volume to a
minidisk using DDR?
Sure, if they are the same size or you know for certain what cylinders the
data actually resides on, DDR will work fine. DDR can't tell the difference
Looks like some of the 'evidence' given to IBM by SCO was the result of a
google search. This is pathetic.
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20031119041719640
On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 10:52, James Melin wrote:
Looks like some of the 'evidence' given to IBM by SCO was the result of a
google search. This is pathetic.
Given the quality of SCO's, ah, evidence so far, they're clearly not
hoping to win this case on its merits.
So here's my question:
What
I doubt that SCO would try to buy the judge, but they may have been able to pick a
judge that knows little about computers. In fact from what I have seen most judges
know nothing about computers. Even with such poor evidence it may be hard for IBM to
disprove the allegations. The attempt at
-Original Message-
From: Fargusson.Alan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SCO Vs IBM
I doubt that SCO would try to buy the judge, but they may
have been able to pick a judge that knows little about
computers.
Thanks, Scott. That is as I suspected. With MVS
periodic DDSR, the VTOC is interrogated and space on
the RVA is freed based on the VTOC map. So, its
absolutely essential that you do not run DDSR on these
packs (VM or Linux CDL).
Would that the developers had used a VTOC that showed
the pack 100%
I don't think that listing all files that have SCO, or SMP in them is due diligence
either, but the judge might if he doesn't really understand how this was done.
-Original Message-
From: McKown, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:58 AM
To: [EMAIL
Sorry, I think I got some misleading information from
my MVS guy. The CDL VTOC does show 100% FULL.
I logged onto MVS and looked at the VTOC. It showed:
tracks 30,085
%used 100
trks/cyls 15
VTOC 1 track
25% used
Free DSCBs 9
Freespace size 0
Largest 0
Free 0
So I would assume that IXFP would
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Jim Sibley wrote:
Would that the developers had used a VTOC that showed
the pack 100% full and we would have no problem.
A hearty amen to that!
Remember AIX/370? Sure you do, if only because we have
made mention of it here from time to time. AIX/370 did not do
the
Sorry, I think I got some misleading information from
my MVS guy. The CDL VTOC does show 100% FULL.
Oh!
Okay ... that is more of what one would expect.
So I would assume that IXFP would behave correctly.
However, operationally, I don't think I'd like to
expose my RVA CDL volumes to DDSR so
I don't think that listing all files that have SCO, or SMP in them is due diligence
either,
but the judge might if he doesn't really understand how this was done.
A dangerous assumption.
In the Dr Godfrey vs Demon Internet libel case, Demon Internet's case collapsed during
the
pre-trial
I think you should beware of this exposure to RVA space when Linux CDL can
be accessed from MVS. Below is a converstation that I had with Scott
Lederer at Storage Tech on the Marist forum. If the VTOC showed that then
volume was 100% full, there would be no problem, but with it showing 100%
Anyone got an example of a job step that can issue a vary command to bring
devices online prior to a backup step being run?
http://www3.gartner.com/DisplayDocument?doc_cd=118545
Does this exist (yet)?
Marcy Cortes
Wells Fargo Services Company
I thought I had checked that.
At any rate, it is a good idea to exclude these volumes, since there would
be no reason to run DDSR from the MVS side on a CDL volume.
Scott L.
-Original Message-
From: Jim Sibley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:14 PM
To:
Hello (again) from Gregg C Levine
Phil, that sounds familiar to me. Can you post a location for that? I
know, (don't ask me how!), that Demon, is one of the larger UK based
service providers.
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Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CDL Backup - and not exposing the volumes to os/390 24x7
Anyone got an example of a job step that can issue a vary
command to bring
devices
Marcy,
I believe so. I remember seeing an announcement from them a number of
months ago.
Mark Post
-Original Message-
From: Marcy Cortes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Veritas netbackup client for Linux 390
Does
People pay big bucks to hear Gartner say that SCO has no viable software business, and
has gone into the IP litigation business. When will Boies have a seat on the board?
Bill
-Original Message-
From: James Melin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:19 PM
To:
Marcy,
Page 5 of this document
http://eval.veritas.com/downloads/pro/netbackup/nbu_50_ds.pdf
has a footnote 5 that says Includes Linux on IBM zSeries client.
Mark Post
-Original Message-
From: Marcy Cortes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:21 PM
To: [EMAIL
Well, I'm not sure if I'm coming or going on this!
I just formatted a volume CDL on another RVA with
SLES8 SP2 and it shows 0% USED and 50,083 tracks FREE!
The other volume I formatted was with SLES8 SP3 and it
showed 100% USED and 0 tracks FREE!
So the MVS guy wasn't wrong after all! He was
All,
Jim Sibley has contributed a HOWTO titled mkinitrd and cloning notes for
SUSE SLES8 and Red Hat EL3 AS on zSeries. The introduction states:
SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 8 (SLES8) and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3
(RHEL3) both use an initial ramdisk (initrd) during the boot process to
include
We've just become the proud owners of RHEL v 3.0
but, we're having install probs...
anaconda fails w/ the following error:
bega:/home/ewilson $ cat anaconda_error.txt
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/anaconda, line 1081, in ?
intf.run(id, dispatch, configFileData)
For those of you who've been following our fun with roll-your-own
NETDATA from Linux and the VM IMAP server, here's the APAR for the
IMAP server that allows it to tolerate x'01' CCWs such as produced by
the Linux UR driver.
Malcolm Beattie has updated his UR driver to allow specifying the
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/34102.html
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Cheers
John.
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