Configuring Hipersockets under z/vm suse 9 (kernel 2.6)

2006-04-27 Thread ING. A. Neij
About a year ago I was succesfull in installing and using hipersockets under SuSe Linux 8 in z/vm guest. Now I try the same but i am not successfull with it in Suse Linux version 9 (kernel 2.6). I should have files like /etc/chandev.conf and /etc/modules.conf but they don't exist in this new

Re: Configuring Hipersockets under z/vm suse 9 (kernel 2.6)

2006-04-27 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 4/27/06, ING. A. Neij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should have files like /etc/chandev.conf and /etc/modules.conf but they don't exist in this new release ?! anyone an idea? With Linux 2.6 kernel the chandev brain damage has gone. You find the corresponding things in the /sys file system.

Re: Configuring Hipersockets under z/vm suse 9 (kernel 2.6)

2006-04-27 Thread David Kreuter
The structures for driving 390 znd z/series devices has changed considerably. Please have a look at the linux on z/series Device Drivers, Features, and Commands reference manual available on the IBM website. It describes all of this. Try:

Installing THE 3.2

2006-04-27 Thread Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission
Hi, I have been trying to install THE (The Hessling Editor) under Centos 4.2. I have installed version 3.0.2 from an ancient RPM, and it works fine. When I install version 3.1 or 3.2 from the tarball, I get garbage on the command line when I edit a file while using a profile. I get the

Install question

2006-04-27 Thread Harting, David
I am installing Marist/LINUX on an IBM Z800 in a Z/VM guest. I am unable to ftp the root file system into the LINUX(page 116 of the Linux for S/390 install/config). I am unable to ping from my PC to the LINUX. I am able to ping from the tcpmaint ID to the LINUX but it seems I can not do

New z9 System BC and System EC plus new VM function

2006-04-27 Thread Richards.Bob
I haven't seen anyone post these here yet. If I missed that post, just hit *DELETE* on this one. z9 System BC - http://www.ibm.com/isource/cgi-bin/goto?it=usa_annredon=106-287 z9 System EC - http://www.ibm.com/isource/cgi-bin/goto?it=usa_annredon=106-293 z/VM 5.2 -

Re: Install question

2006-04-27 Thread Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission
The most common reason for this with someone just starting to use z/Linux is your Linux guest and your VM OSA interface to the rest of the world are on the same subnet, and you have not added PROXYARP to ASSORTEDPARMS in your PROFILE TCPIP. Do it the right way from the beginning, get a new subnet

New z9 models

2006-04-27 Thread Neale Ferguson
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9bc/ http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9ec/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit

What file system type to use for LVM ?

2006-04-27 Thread Bernard Wu
Hi Listserv, Just trying to gauge which is the more popular filesystem type to use for logical volumes, reiserfs or ext3 and why. Seems like reiserfs will allow resizing through the YaST GUI, whilst ext3 filesystems forces CLI interaction. Bernie Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained

Re: Install question

2006-04-27 Thread David Boyes
I am installing Marist/LINUX on an IBM Z800 in a Z/VM guest. Bluntly, give up on the Marist distribution and start with something more modern that supports guest LANs. The Marist code is *ancient* and lacks a number of important things to make it usable for anything. You'll spend more time

Re: New z9 models

2006-04-27 Thread Hannes Reinecke
Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9bc/ http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9ec/ And for those of us who are old enough to remember, this does not derive from BC Mode (S/360) or EC Mode (S/370)! IBM System z9 EC Enterprise Class (formerly IBM System z9 109)

Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change

2006-04-27 Thread Wiggins, Mark
When we set the clocks ahead a couple of weeks ago, we noticed that each Linux image using rmfpms to report to the Performance Toolkit was reporting the wrong time. Restarting the process in Linux resolved the problem, but we'd rather not have to restart these processes on all of our images every

Re: Install question

2006-04-27 Thread Fuzzy Logic
Since the Marist distro is so out-of-date, why is it still up and downloadable without large warnings to get a more modern level? Fuzzy -- Latin: Dum spiro spero. English: While I breathe, I hope. On 4/27/06, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bluntly, give up on the Marist distribution and

Re: Install question

2006-04-27 Thread Harting, David
Thank you for your advice. I will try to install CentOS This is the second time. I have tried to install LINUX in a VM guest. First, I tried Debian. Second, I tried Marist. This proof of concept is talking me a long time! A new release of Z/OS or Z/VM might be easier. All I want to do is get

Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?

2006-04-27 Thread David Boyes
Just trying to gauge which is the more popular filesystem type to use for logical volumes, reiserfs or ext3 and why. Reiserfs is more popular, because it is the default in SuSE. We've observed a fair number of cases where reiserfs fails at very high I/O rates, so we tend to use ext3 in places

Re: Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change

2006-04-27 Thread Fargusson.Alan
The way you put this makes me think you set your hardware clock to local time. This is the wrong approach with Linux (and z/OS actually). If you set your hardware clock to GMT or UTC then use the correct timezone setting the adjustment for daylight savings time is automatic. -Original

Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?

2006-04-27 Thread Jon Brock
I thought there were some data corruption problems with Reiser on s390. Is my impression mistaken? Jon snip Reiserfs is more popular, because it is the default in SuSE. We've observed a fair number of cases where reiserfs fails at very high I/O rates, so we tend to use ext3 in places where we

Re: New z9 models

2006-04-27 Thread Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9bc/ http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9ec/ And for those of us who are old enough to remember, this does not derive from BC Mode (S/360) or EC Mode (S/370)! IBM System z9 EC Enterprise Class (formerly IBM System z9 109) IBM System z9 BC Business Class You can

Re: Install question

2006-04-27 Thread Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission
Everything looks easy in the magazines ;-) Coming from a mainframe background, Linux can be difficult. The installation instructions are not as good as z/VM or other mainframe OSes. You really have to have some kind of a Linux, PC or mainframe, around to help stage the install, since Windows is so

Re: New z9 models

2006-04-27 Thread James Melin
I always thought the IBM machine labeling closely coinceded with a change in VP of marketing. Or is it something like how they determine when Easter is?

Re: Install question

2006-04-27 Thread John Schnitzler Jr
Thank you for your advice. I will try to install CentOS This is the second time. I have tried to install LINUX in a VM guest. First, I tried Debian. Second, I tried Marist. This proof of concept is talking me a long time! A new release of Z/OS or Z/VM might be easier. All I want to do is get

Re: Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change

2006-04-27 Thread Wiggins, Mark
My hardware clock is set to UTC (USA/Eastern). Each Linux image itself maintains the correct time across a time change, it was only the rmfpms reporting process that is not effected unless restarted. Maybe I'm not explaining that right, but when I go to the Performance Toolkit and go to say the

Re: New z9 models

2006-04-27 Thread Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ah, two years have already passed. Time for the biennial IBM machine renumbering. Hannes: Actually, z9-109 was announced July 2006 so that name did not last even 1 year! Jim -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: New z9 models

2006-04-27 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 04/27/2006 at 10:42 EST, James Melin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always thought the IBM machine labeling closely coinceded with a change in VP of marketing. Or is it something like how they determine when Easter is? Actual naming is very complex. Multi-colored wheels with

Re: Install question

2006-04-27 Thread David Boyes
First, I tried Debian. What problems did you have with Debian? This proof of concept is talking me a long time! A new release of Z/OS or Z/VM might be easier. The networking problem you described will occur with any Linux distribution you try. You have to work with your networking people to

Re: Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change

2006-04-27 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 04/27/2006 at 11:47 AST, Wiggins, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My hardware clock is set to UTC (USA/Eastern). Which? UTC is not USA/Eastern. UTC is GMT. The h/w clock should be set to UTC/GMT+0. Use timezones in the operating systems to get the correct local time. Not doing

Re: New z9 models

2006-04-27 Thread Richards.Bob
Don't you just hate when you correct something in writing and induce another error? Actually, z9-109 was announced July *2006* so that name did not last even 1 year! Jim meant 2005. Bob Richards VP, Enterprise Technologist Enterprise Technology Infrastructure SunTrust Banks, Inc. (404)

Re: New z9 models

2006-04-27 Thread Ledbetter, Scott E
I was thinking a better naming nomenclature would have been z9 First Class and z9 Business Class. Then we could have all waited for the z9 Coach Class. Oh well, Scott L. Sun Microsystems -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Melin

Re: Install question

2006-04-27 Thread David Boyes
Since the Marist distro is so out-of-date, why is it still up and downloadable without large warnings to get a more modern level? You'd have to ask Marist, but my guesses are: 1) Hysterical Raisins. Some people get off on retro-computing (this from a person that runs TOPS20 on an emulated KS20

Dumping a LIN-z System

2006-04-27 Thread Tom Shilson
It looks to me that taking a dump of a LIN-z system is a manual process. You either manually IPL a disk, a tape, or you do the VMDUMP command. The automatic dumping after an oops or kernel panic that is available on LINTEL is not available on LIN-z. True? It seems that if I don't want to have a

Re: New z9 models

2006-04-27 Thread Spann, Elizebeth (Betsie)
Would we get meals with the z9-FC and BC machines? Betsie -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ledbetter, Scott E Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:07 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: New z9 models I was thinking a better naming

Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?

2006-04-27 Thread Adam Thornton
On Apr 27, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Bernard Wu wrote: Hi Listserv, Just trying to gauge which is the more popular filesystem type to use for logical volumes, reiserfs or ext3 and why. Seems like reiserfs will allow resizing through the YaST GUI, whilst ext3 filesystems forces CLI interaction. I

Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?

2006-04-27 Thread David Boyes
I thought there were some data corruption problems with Reiser on s390. Is my impression mistaken? That's what I meant by fail. You have to drive it pretty hard to generate the problem though -- it's some kind of race condition in the journal code that only appears at very high load (formatting

Re: New z9 models

2006-04-27 Thread Adam Thornton
On Apr 27, 2006, at 11:10 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: Actual naming is very complex. Multi-colored wheels with spinners, 20 4-sided dice, and 4 20-sided dice are involved. (I think the 20-sided dice explain why certain letters never appear in product names.) Does that mean that the z9BC is a 6

OT: RE: New z9 models

2006-04-27 Thread David Boyes
Would we get meals with the z9-FC and BC machines? No, the machine's just a little bit wider, and the covers recline 3 more inches. You still don't get a blanket, and there's still only peanuts. 8-) -- For LINUX-390

Re: New z9 models

2006-04-27 Thread Jon Brock
Somebody let me know when they get around to cargo class. Jon -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:07 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: OT: RE: New z9 models Would we get meals with the

Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?

2006-04-27 Thread Phil Tully
David Boyes wrote In a earlier life I had implemented Reiserfs for a series large (200Gb ) samba filesystems. We experienced significant problems at the peak access times (9am and 4pm) after many months of hair pulling we found the culprit. The last referenced field was being updated and

Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?

2006-04-27 Thread Hall, Ken (GTI)
Mount options NOATIME and NODIRATIME But I don't see those on the current Reiser doc pages. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phil Tully Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:28 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] What

Re: Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change

2006-04-27 Thread Wiggins, Mark
Alright, when I go to YaST - Clock and Time Zone Configuration, I see Hardware clock set to UTC, I see Region = USA and Time Zone = Eastern. Are we talking about a different hardware clock here? -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan

Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?

2006-04-27 Thread Phil Tully
Hall, Ken (GTI) wrote: Mount options NOATIME and NODIRATIME But I don't see those on the current Reiser doc pages. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phil Tully Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:28 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject:

Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?

2006-04-27 Thread Evans, Kevin R
200Gb is large?...we have a VSAM index file here that just points to records within a VSAM ESDS...the index is over 500Gb g. The keys themselves are from 10 to 30 bytes each (depending on the type). K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hall,

Re: New z9 models

2006-04-27 Thread shogunx
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Adam Thornton wrote: On Apr 27, 2006, at 11:10 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: Actual naming is very complex. Multi-colored wheels with spinners, 20 4-sided dice, and 4 20-sided dice are involved. (I think the 20-sided dice explain why certain letters never appear in product

Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?

2006-04-27 Thread Phil Tully
Evans, Kevin R wrote: 200Gb is large?...we have a VSAM index file here that just points to records within a VSAM ESDS...the index is over 500Gb g. The keys themselves are from 10 to 30 bytes each (depending on the type). K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL

NetBackup 64bit client

2006-04-27 Thread Kielek, Samuel
Does anyone know if there is a NetBackup client available that is compiled 64bit? It seems that they only have versions compiled against 31bit shared libs. I'm also going to open a ticket with Symantec, but if anyone knows off the top of their head I'd appreciate the info. Thanks, Sam

Re: New z9 models

2006-04-27 Thread Tim Hare
I think we'll see z9-DC3, and they'll be based in older out-of-the-way data centers, held together with baling wire and hope, but delivering the goods all over the place and sometimes under the radar. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 Jon

Re: New z9 models

2006-04-27 Thread Frank Gowdey/Admin/Avery/MCS
will they be like the z9-C47's. Frank Tim Hare [EMAIL PROTECTED] te.fl.us To Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 390 Port

Re: Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change

2006-04-27 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 4/27/06, Wiggins, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright, when I go to YaST - Clock and Time Zone Configuration, I see Hardware clock set to UTC, I see Region = USA and Time Zone = Eastern. Are we talking about a different hardware clock here? That's the way to do it (and I am not sure this

Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?

2006-04-27 Thread Bill Carlson
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Bernard Wu wrote: Just trying to gauge which is the more popular filesystem type to use for logical volumes, reiserfs or ext3 and why. Seems like reiserfs will allow resizing through the YaST GUI, whilst ext3 filesystems forces CLI interaction. I've been happy with xfs,

Re: Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change

2006-04-27 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 04/27/2006 at 11:16 ZE2, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/27/06, Wiggins, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright, when I go to YaST - Clock and Time Zone Configuration, I see Hardware clock set to UTC, I see Region = USA and Time Zone = Eastern. Are we talking

Re: NetBackup 64bit client

2006-04-27 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
It's crazier than that. You just get a tar file and run their './install' You have to reply that you are SLES 2.4 for both SLES8 and SLES9. And you have to replay you are RedHat 2.4 to install on SuSE SLES9 on intel. My wording is probably not quite right but- In other words there are only 2

Re: Dumping a LIN-z System

2006-04-27 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 4/27/06, Tom Shilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks to me that taking a dump of a LIN-z system is a manual process. You either manually IPL a disk, a tape, or you do the VMDUMP command. The automatic dumping after an oops or kernel panic that is available on LINTEL is not available on

Re: New z9 models

2006-04-27 Thread Dave Jones
Yes, except the C-47s will be available only in Army Drab.but both models will have the same advanced rotatory processors.;-) DJ Frank Gowdey/Admin/Avery/MCS wrote: will they be like the z9-C47's. Frank Tim Hare [EMAIL PROTECTED] te.fl.us

Re: Dumping a LIN-z System

2006-04-27 Thread Tom Shilson
Thank you! We have decided to go with VMDUMP rather than disk-based dumps. I will try making vmhalt=VMDUMP. The Dump Tools book seems to be for the October 2005 stream, but I read it anyway. It did help. Thanks again! tom - - - - - - - - - - - - Toto, I have a feeling we're not in the

Re: Dumping a LIN-z System

2006-04-27 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 4/28/06, Tom Shilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have decided to go with VMDUMP rather than disk-based dumps. I will try making vmhalt=VMDUMP. The Dump Tools book seems to be for the October 2005 stream, but I read it anyway. It did help. Thanks again! Be aware that the default does

Re: Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change

2006-04-27 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 4/28/06, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it's important to remember that the TOD doesn't have an intrinsic timezone. Linux has been told to *assume* the TOD is set to UTC, and since a virtual TOD is set from the LPAR TOD, the machine must be set to UTC. Note that the Linux

Re: Installing THE 3.2

2006-04-27 Thread Rick Troth
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission wrote: ... following characters on the command line: 63;1;2;6;7;8;9;11;14c63;1;2;6;7;8;9;11;14c. I've seen this kind of garbage with other curses based apps. I fear that there's something wrong with the 3.1 and 3.2 builds. Could be a

Re: NetBackup 64bit client

2006-04-27 Thread Marcy Cortes
I had to install these SuSE packages to get it to work on 64bit sles9. compat-2004.7.1-1.2 compat-32bit-9-200407011411 Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not