Re: IPL parms

2008-08-22 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 8/22/2008 at 4:45 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -snip- > That's the error you get when the virtual machine hasn't activated the > integrated linemode console interface. I know this isn't (necessarily) your area of expertise, but do you have an

Re: IPL parms

2008-08-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 08/22/2008 at 03:56 EDT, Mark Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There should probably be a bug filed against the newer doc, because when I try > to follow the sample on a z/VM 5.1 system, I get this back: > 00: HCPPCX6531E The operating system will not accept commands from the service >

Re: IPL parms

2008-08-22 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 8/22/2008 at 2:40 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brad Hinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Post wrote: > On 8/22/2008 at 1:29 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brad > Hinson >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -snip- >>> Note: The % >>> is an escape character to '#cp vi vmsg'

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-22 Thread Robin Atwood
On Friday 22 Aug 2008, Marcy Cortes wrote: > From /etc/sysconfig/yup > > # There are two options, to get the ID: > # > # 1. use the Machine ID: this value is in > #/etc/zmd/deviceid > #on the machine you registered with. > # > # 2. go to the Novell Customer Center and request > #"mi

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-22 Thread Robin Atwood
On Friday 22 Aug 2008, Mark Post wrote: > >>> On 8/22/2008 at 8:52 AM, in message > > I have set YUP_ID and YUP_PASS to the values in /etc/zmd, so what have I > > missed? > > That looks like the registration failed for some reason. What does "rug > sl" and "rug ca" show you? # rug sl Waking up Z

Re: IPL parms

2008-08-22 Thread Brad Hinson
Mark Post wrote: On 8/22/2008 at 1:29 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brad Hinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -snip- Note: The % is an escape character to '#cp vi vmsg' which sets input to lowercase. Otherwise root= is sent as ROOT=, which Linux doesn't like very much. Hmm. Not on my SLE

Re: IPL parms

2008-08-22 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 8/22/2008 at 1:29 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brad Hinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -snip- > Note: The % > is an escape character to '#cp vi vmsg' which sets input to lowercase. > Otherwise root= is sent as ROOT=, which Linux doesn't like very much. Hmm. Not on my SLES10 SP1 sys

Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version

2008-08-22 Thread Douglas Wooster
I always liked doing my own keypunching -- and I can **still** code better if I scribble the corrections on a fanfold listing! ("multiprocessing": two 360-30's with 14KB (!) DOS supervisors which everybody said was too big) Douglas Re: [LINUX-390] Distribution ages, was: Linux version

Re: IPL parms

2008-08-22 Thread Brad Hinson
Does zipl display a boot menu? If so, you'll need to pass root= to zipl, not IPL. For example, at a prompt like this: 00: zIPL v1.5.3 interactive boot menu 00: 00: 0. default (linux) 00: 00: 1. linux 00: 00: Note: VM users please use '#cp vi vmsg ' 00: 00: Please choose (default will boot in

Re: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make sure you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE you switch

2008-08-22 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 8/22/2008 at 12:51 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Walters, Gene P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, I restored my root partition back to the way it was this morning. > Basically I was going to add DASD, so I took the guest down. I added > the dasd to the user direct, and re-ipl'd. W

Re: Linux Motivational Posters

2008-08-22 Thread Douglas Wooster
Thanks. I think I'll add the Gentoo picture to my screensaver -- maybe I can relabel it for something ubiquitous which comes out of the northwest :) Douglas (personal opinions only, and all that ... :) ) [LINUX-390] Linux Motivational Posters Neale Ferguson to: LINUX-390 08/22/2008 09:35

Re: IPL parms

2008-08-22 Thread Stephen Frazier
Thats what happens when you do it from memory instead of looking it up. :( LOADPARM is limited to 8 characters. Try "IPL 1490 PARM root=/dev/dasd1" That should allow 64 characters. Walters, Gene P wrote: HCPCLT1013E An invalid operand was supplied for LOADPARM - ROOT=/DEV/DASDA1 -- Stephen Fr

Re: Support dates for IBM products on new releases of SLES

2008-08-22 Thread Stephen Frazier
Normally, for most products, IBM tests them on the new release before the availability date. If it runs with no problems then it is supported from day 1. If they have to change something then support may be later. If it is easy to fix they may support it (with the fix) from day 1. Marcy Cortes

Re: IPL parms

2008-08-22 Thread Walters, Gene P
HCPCLT1013E An invalid operand was supplied for LOADPARM - ROOT=/DEV/DASDA1 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Frazier Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 1:01 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: IPL parms Did you try - "IPL 1490 LO

OpenSSH vulnerability alert (with detection script)

2008-08-22 Thread Brad Hinson
Please see http://www.redhat.com/security/data/openssh-blacklist.html Note: This applies to any systems downloading packages/updates from *non* Red Hat sources. If you receive your updates from Red Hat Network, this does not apply. Thanks, -- Brad Hinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sr. Support Engineer

Re: IPL parms

2008-08-22 Thread Stephen Frazier
Did you try - "IPL 1490 LOADPARM root=/dev/dasd1" ? What happened? Walters, Gene P wrote: May I should have phrased my question better, I'm losing my mind. Is there a way to pass a Linux boot parm, when typing IPL from VM, such as IPL 1490 root=/dev/dasda1 -- Stephen Frazier Information

Re: IPL parms

2008-08-22 Thread Walters, Gene P
May I should have phrased my question better, I'm losing my mind. Is there a way to pass a Linux boot parm, when typing IPL from VM, such as IPL 1490 root=/dev/dasda1 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of van Sleeuwen, Berry Sent: Friday, A

Support dates for IBM products on new releases of SLES

2008-08-22 Thread Marcy Cortes
Have to do some 2009 planning... How long is it typically between the availability of the next release of SLES (or RHEL for that matter) before IBM will support WAS, DB2, MQ Series on it? Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee

Re: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make sure you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE you switch

2008-08-22 Thread Walters, Gene P
Ok, I restored my root partition back to the way it was this morning. Basically I was going to add DASD, so I took the guest down. I added the dasd to the user direct, and re-ipl'd. When it started coming back up, instead of loading the init from dasdb1, which was what it was doing before, it tri

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-22 Thread Marcy Cortes
>From /etc/sysconfig/yup # There are two options, to get the ID: # # 1. use the Machine ID: this value is in #/etc/zmd/deviceid #on the machine you registered with. # # 2. go to the Novell Customer Center and request #"mirror credentials" to get updates to all your #systems wit

Re: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make sure you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE you switch

2008-08-22 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 8/22/2008 at 10:08 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Walters, Gene P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess I should have been paying more attention to the list before I > added more DASD to one of my guests. Yes, I have done exactly this, > except I compounded it. Thinking I was smart,

Re: IPL parms

2008-08-22 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
Gene, "IPL 190 PARM AUTOCR" or whatever parm you'd like to have. Or in case of a guest OS such as VM "IPL CLEAR LOADPARM 0009". Regards, Berry. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walters, Gene P Sent: vrijdag 22 augustus 2008 18:33 To:

IPL parms

2008-08-22 Thread Walters, Gene P
Is it possible to put in IPL parms when you type IPL in VM? -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/h

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-22 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 8/22/2008 at 8:52 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robin Atwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -snip- > Thanks for the pointer. I have activated the product and configured yup as > documented but when I run it I get a lot of messages: -snip- > I have set YUP_ID and YUP_PASS to the values in

Re: Root filesystem error switches to ReadOnly

2008-08-22 Thread Fargusson.Alan
Unless this changed in 2.6 the block devices go through VFS, and the blocks get cached by the VFS layer. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Perry Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:07 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Root filesys

Re: Root filesystem error switches to ReadOnly

2008-08-22 Thread Fargusson.Alan
I was not referring to the page cache. The block devices still go through VFS, and the blocks get cached by the VFS layer. I can't say I have read the latest kernel source, so I could be wrong if this changed in 2.6. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Safety Reminder: If you are planning disk upgrades, make sure you switch your Linux guests to by-path IDs in /etc/fstab BEFORE you switch

2008-08-22 Thread Walters, Gene P
I guess I should have been paying more attention to the list before I added more DASD to one of my guests. Yes, I have done exactly this, except I compounded it. Thinking I was smart, I mounted the disk to another instance, changed the way it was mounted, to by-path, in the fstab, and did a mkini

Re: z/VM CP commands (LOGON)?

2008-08-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 08/21/2008 at 03:14 EDT, Kris Van Hees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Check out the AUTOLOG and XAUTOLOG commands. Focus on XAUTOLOG, not AUTOLOG. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe

Linux Motivational Posters

2008-08-22 Thread Neale Ferguson
A nice parody of those nauseating motivational posters: http://www.besttechie.net/forums/Linux-Humor-t14545.html -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message

Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version

2008-08-22 Thread Evans, Kevin R
Didn't you mean that someone else could make punching mistakes for you? Kevin -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Summerfield Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 8:39 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux ver

Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version

2008-08-22 Thread Evans, Kevin R
Here we go again ... I remember using Hollerith punched card machines. They were little things where you had to punch the zone (10, 11, 12?) and the numeric # to create coded alpha and numerics on the cards. No IBM 026 or 029 card punches in those days. If we made a mistake on the Hollerith, w

Re: DASD problem

2008-08-22 Thread Edmund R. MacKenty
On Friday 22 August 2008 08:13, Stahr, Lea wrote: >I have a SLES 8 system that is coming up with /var not mounted. When I >run a fsck /dev/dasdd1 on it I receive the following: >fsck.reiserfs /dev/dasdd1 failed (status 0x10). Run manually! > >Anything I can do to save it? Umm... You could try run

Re: 3270 console confusion

2008-08-22 Thread Robin Atwood
On Friday 22 Aug 2008, Mark Post wrote: > The first part of my article at > http://www.zjournal.com/index.cfm?section=article&aid=992 talks about how > you register your system. If you follow those directions, the setup is > done for you by the tools. Thanks for the pointer. I have activated the

Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version

2008-08-22 Thread John Summerfield
Mark Perry wrote: Evans, Kevin R wrote: This is getting like Monty Python . One guy says "When we were young, we used to eat the leather from our shoes". The other guy says "You had shoes?". OS/360 - some of you guys make me feel young, thanks ;-) You must be around 60, either that or your s

Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version

2008-08-22 Thread John Summerfield
Robin Atwood wrote: On Thursday 21 Aug 2008, John Summerfield wrote: Evans, Kevin R wrote: Kinda makes one realize how long z/OS (or its ancestors) has been around, doesn't it? MFT? There was something called PCP that predated MFT but I am happy to say I never worked on it! :D See: http://e

DASD problem

2008-08-22 Thread Stahr, Lea
I have a SLES 8 system that is coming up with /var not mounted. When I run a fsck /dev/dasdd1 on it I receive the following: fsck.reiserfs /dev/dasdd1 failed (status 0x10). Run manually! Anything I can do to save it? Lea Stahr Senior Systems Engineer zVM, Linux and zLinux Navistar,

Re: Root filesystem error switches to ReadOnly

2008-08-22 Thread Michael MacIsaac
> I expect the problem is using 'dd' for the copying may not get the > magic signatures Also 'dd' expects a dasdfmt'd disks or it loses its way. Another approach might be to try dasdfmt'ing the disk before 'dd'. "Mike MacIsaac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (845) 433-7061 ---

Re: Root filesystem error switches to ReadOnly

2008-08-22 Thread Carsten Otte
Rob van der Heij wrote: I expect the problem is using 'dd' for the copying may not get the magic signatures that makes the disk a CDL format, so the driver ends up seeing it as LDL and gets things misaligned. But you should be able to notice that when the new system is booting. This is not the c

Re: Root filesystem error switches to ReadOnly

2008-08-22 Thread Carsten Otte
Fargusson.Alan wrote: Doing a dd on a device goes through the cache, so in this case the cache can't be the problem. This is not the case. In fact, the page cache is indexed by address spaces and each file as well as each block device has its own address space. Consequently, Linux cannot tell t

Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version

2008-08-22 Thread Robin Atwood
On Thursday 21 Aug 2008, John Summerfield wrote: > Evans, Kevin R wrote: > > Kinda makes one realize how long z/OS (or its ancestors) has been > > around, doesn't it? > > MFT? There was something called PCP that predated MFT but I am happy to say I never worked on it! :D See: http://en.wikipedia.