FCP vs EDEV for system - best practice?

2012-03-19 Thread Grzegorz Powiedziuk
Hello everyone. I found a lot of very useful information here but this time I have some doubts so I decided to subscribe and ask. Recently we upgraded our hardware (z9 + DS6000 -> z114 + DS6000 + XIV) and we have to make some choices. There is a chance that at some point we will have to get rid of

Re: Mount an AIX filesystem on zLinux?

2012-03-19 Thread Jerry Park
Actually the customer doesn't want to touch with their production disks even though via network like NFS. So, ... 2012/3/20 Emmett O'Grady : > Can you export the AIX filesystem with NFS and then mount it on your client > (Linux on Z)? > > Emmett > > > - Original Message - > From: jaehwa >

Re: Mount an AIX filesystem on zLinux?

2012-03-19 Thread Emmett O'Grady
Can you export the AIX filesystem with NFS and then mount it on your client (Linux on Z)? Emmett - Original Message - From: jaehwa Sent: 20.03.2012 09:54 ZE9 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Mount an AIX filesystem on zLinux? Hi there, Is it possible to mount an AIX filesystem(J

Re: Mount an AIX filesystem on zLinux?

2012-03-19 Thread Scott Rohling
Googling around looks like SLES doesn't support it - the utilities are no longer included ... but I believe all you'd need is the jfsutils rpm. Anyway - yes - quite possible. I searched on 'jfs s390x' to find info.. Scott Rohling On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Jerry Park wrote: > Hi there

Mount an AIX filesystem on zLinux?

2012-03-19 Thread Jerry Park
Hi there, Is it possible to mount an AIX filesystem(JFS) on zLinux? One of my customer is considering about zLinux as their batch system. Their existing AIX systems are using Oracle, the customer wants to replicate their AIX Oracle disks to disks attached with zLinux, and mount this replicated AI

RES: RES: Emergency

2012-03-19 Thread Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira
Thanks to all that spent time in trying to help me on this issue. 1st time in my DP life (... after 42 years on the road ...) HM -Mensagem original- De: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] Em nome de Doug Enviada em: segunda-feira, 19 de março de 2012 20:24 Para: LINUX-39

Re: RES: Emergency

2012-03-19 Thread Doug
Time to update your Disaster Recover documentation/procedures, get management to back you up! Nothing like the REAL thing to get some focus on the real issue! Rebuild and move on. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2012, at 17:07, RPN01 wrote: > I'm assuming that the disks that were scratched were

Re: RES: Emergency

2012-03-19 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 03/19/2012 at 06:35 EDT, Shane G wrote: > LVM is greatly lauded as an "Enterprise" solution, but the initial design was > terribly flawed, and numerous iterations to rectify it have not been entirely > fruitful. Striping of any stripe (physical or logical) is there to protect you from

Re: RES: Emergency

2012-03-19 Thread Shane G
It doesn't matter much - all the important meta-data is at the "front" and gets clobbered first. Usually. LVM is greatly lauded as an "Enterprise" solution, but the initial design was terribly flawed, and numerous iterations to rectify it have not been entirely fruitful. IMHO of course. Even if on

Re: Emergency

2012-03-19 Thread David Boyes
> Sadly to say, but my reality is that the back-up (which was made in a separate > x86 machine) was neglected by the people in charge. At this point, you're pretty much screwed. With no backup, there's pretty much nothing that can be done. ---

RES: Emergency

2012-03-19 Thread Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira
Ron, I don´t how far the formatting exec went, before the machine hanging. -Mensagem original- De: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] Em nome de Foster, Ron Enviada em: segunda-feira, 19 de março de 2012 16:41 Para: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Assunto: Re: Emergency Did all

RES: RES: Emergency

2012-03-19 Thread Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira
Robert, Yes, I totally agree w/ you. But do you know some saying ... you concentrate all things too much on your hands ... you should delegate ... Helio Mario -Mensagem original- De: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] Em nome de RPN01 Enviada em: segunda-feira, 19 de març

Re: Are your Linux instances healthy?

2012-03-19 Thread CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)
Hendrik (or anyone), Can you help us with one small issue I cannot seem to find the answer on with the install of this neat tool. I am doing the noarch rpm install and getting: rpm -ivh lnxhc-1.0-1.noarch.rpm error: Failed dependencies: rpmlib(PayloadIsLzma) <= 4.4.2-1 is needed by

Re: Emergency

2012-03-19 Thread Foster, Ron
Did all seven disk drives get reformatted? Ron Foster From: Linux on 390 Port [LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] on behalf of Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira [h...@engepel.com.br] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 2:14 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Eme

Re: RES: Emergency

2012-03-19 Thread RPN01
I'm assuming that the disks that were scratched were the ones on the "old" side of the migration, and without useful backups, I'd have to say that you're probably out of luck at this point. I would have thought that there'd have been several points in this process where the system pointed out to th

Re: Are your Linux instances healthy?

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 3/19/2012 at 01:01 PM, "Foster, Ron" wrote: > Does the terminal server use ttys? No, it uses a different program and only virtual devices (not virtualized just virtual). There are two flavors (which I haven't had the time to understand how they differ): iucvtty, and /dev/hvc? names.

RES: Emergency

2012-03-19 Thread Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira
Yes 7 disks. I don´t how far the formatting exec went, before the machine hanging. Sadly to say, but my reality is that the back-up (which was made in a separate x86 machine) was neglected by the people in charge. All this happened during the storage migration SHARK to DS8000. Yes we built a seco

Re: Are your Linux instances healthy?

2012-03-19 Thread David Kreuter
The terminal server creates an IUCVTTY device. Really cool. David Kreuter Original Message Subject: Re: Are your Linux instances healthy? From: "Foster, Ron" Date: Mon, March 19, 2012 1:01 pm To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Does the terminal server use ttys?

Re: Emergency

2012-03-19 Thread RPN01
So, you have seven disks involved. Which disk(s) were formatted? Key question: Do you have any sort of backups of the disks, and at what level? (File level or device level) How old are they? How active were (i.e. How much updating was there on) the disks? Do you have a second Linux image on whic

Re: Emergency

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 3/19/2012 at 03:14 PM, Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira wrote: > What was submitted via YAST: > - activate DASD > - format DASD > > During this process this LPAR (named LINUX2) stopped / hanged. > No more jobs were processed in this machine. > > Is there a way to rebuilt the "file

Emergency

2012-03-19 Thread Helio Mario Neves Pimentel de Oliveira
Hi Mark and all listers, We are in a great trouble. A guy of our tech team inadvertently submitted a job to 'format' the disk. So, there was a SUBSTANTIAL & CRITIC DATA LOSS. Scenario: z10 Suse 10 SP4 1 disk for the OS 2 LVMs with 3 disks each Address 0.0.

Re: Are your Linux instances healthy?

2012-03-19 Thread Foster, Ron
Does the terminal server use ttys? From: Linux on 390 Port [LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] on behalf of Mark Post [mp...@novell.com] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 11:20 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Are your Linux instances healthy? >>> On 3/19/2

Re: Cannot add drive to existing LVM SLES 11 SP 1

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Pace
Yes, I did both mkinitrd zipl neither of which helped. The dasd_config was the answer. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Richard Troth wrote: > You probably need to re-stamp the initial RAM disk to know about the > new drive. Barring other requirements, that would be ... > >mkinitrd >

Re: Are your Linux instances healthy?

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 3/19/2012 at 11:22 AM, RPN01 wrote: > The third exception is about having ttys defined, without having programs > running to talk to them. I buy this one. I'm not sure why the zLinux images > define tty devices, when there are no interfaces for these to talk to. They > just waste memory an

Re: Cannot add drive to existing LVM SLES 11 SP 1

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 3/19/2012 at 12:06 PM, Mark Post wrote: > Which will probably fail, since you've already brought it online. (Which > makes me think a "write the udev rules anyway" switch would be a nice > enhancement request.) I have to take that back. The "already online" message is simply informativ

Re: Cannot add drive to existing LVM SLES 11 SP 1

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 3/19/2012 at 09:36 AM, Mark Pace wrote: > I'm having problems with the new disk I just added to an LVM group. When I > reboot the system the new DASD is not online. So I have to do a chccwdev > -e 0.0.0207 How do I make it come online automatically when I boot? If you're talking about

Re: Are your Linux instances healthy?

2012-03-19 Thread RPN01
It called out three exceptions, two of which that I thought were a bit odd, all rated medium. The first is that it found no driver for device 0.0.0009. Since my console, though disconnected, is working just fine, I have to assume that there is some driver active to it, so I'm not sure what the com

Re: Cannot add drive to existing LVM SLES 11 SP 1

2012-03-19 Thread Foster, Ron
Did you do a mkinitrd before you rebooted. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2012, at 8:44 AM, "Mark Pace" wrote: > I'm having problems with the new disk I just added to an LVM group. > When I > reboot the system the new DASD is not online. So I have to do a > chccwdev > -e 0.0.0207 How do

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2012-03-19 Thread Neale Ferguson
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Re: Cannot add drive to existing LVM SLES 11 SP 1

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Pace
Found it. Searched back through old posts and found the answer. On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Mark Pace wrote: > I'm having problems with the new disk I just added to an LVM group. When > I reboot the system the new DASD is not online. So I have to do a chccwdev > -e 0.0.0207 How do I ma

Re: z/VM host FTP hang on SLES11 install with incorrect linux guest I.P. address

2012-03-19 Thread David Boyes
Or use L2 connections and DHCP. They don't get a chance to screw it up then. Or see my other suggestion: separate GLAN/VSWITCH segments. At least the student can only screw themselves that way. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / sig

Re: Cannot add drive to existing LVM SLES 11 SP 1

2012-03-19 Thread Richard Troth
You probably need to re-stamp the initial RAM disk to know about the new drive. Barring other requirements, that would be ... mkinitrd zipl -- R; Rick Troth Velocity Software http://www.velocitysoftware.com/ On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Mark Pace wrote: > I'm having proble

Re: Cannot add drive to existing LVM SLES 11 SP 1

2012-03-19 Thread Mark Pace
I'm having problems with the new disk I just added to an LVM group. When I reboot the system the new DASD is not online. So I have to do a chccwdev -e 0.0.0207 How do I make it come online automatically when I boot? TIA! On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Mark Post wrote: > >>> On 3/15/2012 a

z/VM host FTP hang on SLES11 install with incorrect linux guest I.P. address

2012-03-19 Thread Roy P Costa
Thanks to all of you that provided your input. Looks like there is no very simple way to avoid this. We did use one tactic that was suggested, but did not post on the class wall any threats of physical harm if the wrong I.P. address was used. Roy Costa IBM International Technical Support Organi

Re: z/VM host FTP hang on SLES11 install with incorrect linux guest I.P. address

2012-03-19 Thread Mauro Souza
I was thinking about it yesterday, and come with this: what if you assign the guests to a vswitch with isolation mode turned on and put the FTP server in another interface? The guest with incorrect IP would not "poison" the ARP cache of everybody, and you could configure your gateway to drop any pa