Nope, actually a P/390 evolution. Think P/390 with a emulator for the
processor instead of a hardware processor.
it is purely an IBM development (although there are some similarities with
FLEX-ES).
As to cost, it depends... For ISVs, it is generally a little less than
FLEX-ES systems. For RD&T
2012/6/13 Mark Post
>
>
> Those are not the same two mount points.
> /mnt/thin_test_btrfs
> /mnt/thin_test_xfs
>
>
> Mark Post
>
> Ah, but it is just a copy and paste error. I get the same error on both
filesystems (xfs and btrfs)
d2ora000:~ # fstrim /mnt/thin_test_btrfs/
fstrim: /mnt/thin_test_
Hi, Mark.
What does IPL-ing CMS first in a Linux guest to do some setup housework,
building a swap VDSIK in this case, have to do with LGR? Once Linux is
up and running in the guest, what would prevent it from being moved? I
guess I don't understand your question?
DJ
On 06/13/2012 12:59 PM, Mar
There is a zPDT software licenses that runs in a notebook or intel. It´s
priced for devenlopers.
https://www-304.ibm.com/partnerworld/wps/servlet/ContentHandler/pw_com_zpdt
Em 13/06/2012 15:02, Ron Wells escreveu:
Anyone remember P390 ??
Is there something that does something similar today ..
>>> On 6/13/2012 at 06:50 PM, Grzegorz Powiedziuk
>>> wrote:
> /dev/mapper/20017380062aa0048_part1 on /mnt/thin_test_btrfs type btrfs (rw)
>
> d2ora000:/var/log # fstrim /mnt/thin_test_xfs/
> fstrim: /mnt/thin_test_xfs/: FITRIM ioctl failed: Operation not supported
Those are not the same two
> Unfortunately no luck here either. I've mounted XFS filesystem with discard
> option but it doesn't look like it is doing anything. I've created 2 files
> with
> zeros on this fs (100% used space) and than after a while removed them.
> XIV claims that this volume is full in 100% and doesn't lo
On Wednesday, 06/13/2012 at 02:15 EDT, Ron Wells
wrote:
> Anyone remember P390 ??
>
> Is there something that does something similar today ..
>
> To have development/programmers do development for z/OS DB2 CICS...so
on..
IBM Rational Development and Test Environment for System z
http://www.ibm.c
Cross-posted to Linux-390 and IBMVM
All,
I'm developing some internal education on System z for people that don't have
that background. I would like to include a section on tools that a lot of
customers use that they get from somewhere other than SUSE. The first example
that comes to mind is
>>> On 6/12/2012 at 09:46 PM, Grzegorz Powiedziuk
>>> wrote:
> Hi, I am trying to figure out what is best setup for us. We would like to
> use thin provisioning which is available on XIV (on our FCP LUNs).
> Unfortunately it does not work very good with ext3 file system. To reclaim
> some space
> Currently all of my linux guests IPL CMS to create VDISK swap disks and
> signatures. For a linux to work with LGR it must IPL from a device or NSS so
> no CMS if I want to LGR. I've been doing it this way for so long I'm unsure
> of
> how I would create the swap signature in my VDISKs without
2012/6/13 Mark Post
>
> Look at the btrfs file system, and the fstrim command from the util-linux
> package.
>
>
> Mark Post
>
It looks like something is not supported :
/dev/mapper/20017380062aa0048_part1 on /mnt/thin_test_btrfs type btrfs (rw)
d2ora000:/var/log # fstrim /mnt/thin_test_xfs/
I dumped the contents of the swap spaces, at 100K 512 byte sectors and at 200K
512 byte sectors, using both SWAPGEN and mkswap to create them. The
differences in output is interesting, but I can't say I know what they mean.
--- swapgen.100k.hexdump2012-06-13 18:38:12.0 -0400
+++
Hi, Ron.
I believe P390 boxes are still alive and kicking at a number of small
mainframe sites around the world..
IBM now offers a small system just for development work called the
zPDT...I think the PDT stands for Personal Development Tool. You can
read all about it here:
https://www-304.ib
Mark,
> For a linux to work with LGR it must IPL from a device or NSS
> so no CMS if I want to LGR.
The Cloud Computing Cookbook,
http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/mikemac/CKB-VM62.PDF shows how to IPL CMS,
create VDISKs, IPL Linux and still do LGRs. The CMS disks are simply
detached when Linux star
Thanks for the suggestion, Mark. To partition or not to partition; that
is the question;-)
I also have another change that would remove the requirement for having
the RXDASD package available as well. If we do need to make a change to
SWAPGEN, I'll see about adding that in as well.
DJ
On 06/
> But anyway, my xfs (rw,discard) partition, according to XIV is still fully
> occupied. So it didn't reclaim even one block during last few hours. (it
> can reclaim from ext3 and jfs but vry slowly)
> > Hmm. Weird. I'll go poke at the borrowed XIV we have to see if there's
> > some setting
That used to be the case Steve, but not any more. zPDT (the package you are
thinking of) is now available to any company with a System z mainframe but
it is limited to development and testing only. (Thus the name "Rational
Develop & Test", RD&T).
Licensing for RD&T is somewhat complex (as for al
Billy R. Bingham wrote:
> It's called the zPDT. Go to this sie for more
> information:
>
> http://www.p390.com/zpdt.htm
This looks like a FLEX/ES evolution. I don't even want to think about
how much it must cost.
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2012/6/13 David Boyes
>
> What microcode version is your XIV running? According to the hw guys, our
> box got a recent ucode update, but they didn't record the previous level.
> 8-(.
>
>
I think it is one of the most current one :
Version
11.0.1.a
---
Further investigation reveals that the problem is size-related (somehow). If I
use this command:
swapgen 300 10 (diag
the the swapon command fails. (And I do mean fails, and not just seemingly so.
No swap is added.)
If I use this command:
swapgen 300 20 (diag
Then the swapon command w
>> Currently all of my linux guests IPL CMS to create VDISK swap disks and
>> signatures. For a linux to work with LGR it must IPL from a device or NSS so
>> no CMS if I want to LGR. I've been doing it this way for so long I'm unsure
>> of
>> how I would create the swap signature in my VDISKs wi
>>> On 6/13/2012 at 05:50 PM, Mark Post wrote:
> On SLES11 SP1, "swapon -v" shows the same complaint as on SP2, but the swap
> space is added anyway.
It turns out that on SLES11 SP2, the swap space also gets added, in spite of
the message. So it appears that the difference between SP1 and SP2
>>> On 6/13/2012 at 05:02 PM, David Boyes wrote:
> We're looking at it too. More if we find something.
If modifications become necessary (for whatever reason), it might be a good
idea to change something else as well. For DIAG, SWAPGEN puts the swap
signature at the beginning of the first p
Interesting. On SLES10 SP4 and SLES11 SP1 the swapon command works without
complaint. On SLES10 SP4, the "swap -v" command doesn't produce any more
output than without the -v. On SLES11 SP1, "swapon -v" shows the same
complaint as on SP2, but the swap space is added anyway.
On SLES11 SP2, us
Thanks! I appreciate that!
I've done some research and it looks like Veritas is doing WRITE SAME +
UNMAP operation to unmap unused blocks.
But this can work only if logical block provisioning: lbpme=1.
And in my case it is "0" :
d2ora000:~ # sg_readcap -16 /dev/sda
Read Capacity results:
Prot
Aria,
I ran into this writing the last cookbook. I found this e-mail when
someone in Boeb. debugged it:
I tried to compare the messages from the two scenarios (with and without
SWPAGEN). This is what I found.
With SWAPGEN the amount of swap space detected by Linux is as follows:
Adding 2
>>> On 6/13/2012 at 04:43 PM, Dave Jones wrote:
> Yes, Rich Smrcina has reported this problem as well. To the best of my
> knowledge, the 2008-04-16 version of SWAPGEN is the latest. If the fix
> for this problem has already been discovered, please let me know so I
> can add it into the "official
We do #2 and LGR works great. Like this:
/* if disconnected, then just start linux */
if disco == 'DISCONNECTED' then do
queue 'CP DET 190'
queue 'CP DET 19E'
To my knowledge there is no product currently marketed by IBM to
enterprises, etc.
IBM does have a product that is available only to ISV. I think you have
to make a case for the box initially and then it's renewed on an annual
basis.
I read about this last week, kept the documentation but can't fin
> Due to kernel rebase of SLES11 SP2 we found that few of the tools that
> earlier worked with
> SLES11 SP2 (2.6.32 based kernels) had to be modified so that they work with
> 3.x kernels.
> SWAPGEN might as well be another such example which might need
> modification to work with 3.x based kernels.
On Wednesday, 06/13/2012 at 02:55 EDT, Mark Post wrote:
> >>> On 6/13/2012 at 01:59 PM, Mark Pace wrote:
> > Currently all of my linux guests IPL CMS to create VDISK swap disks
and
> > signatures. For a linux to work with LGR it must IPL from a device or
NSS
> > so no CMS if I want to LGR.
>
> T
Hi, Mike.
Yes, Rich Smrcina has reported this problem as well. To the best of my
knowledge, the 2008-04-16 version of SWAPGEN is the latest. If the fix
for this problem has already been discovered, please let me know so I
can add it into the "official" SWAPGEN distribution code at SNA.
Thanks.
D
Yes - I still boot mine.
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Anyone remember P390 ??
I have one in the corner of our machine room. Every time I start it up,
people think there's a jet landing on the roof.
Paul
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I was being stupid, overlooking the fact that I could DETACH all the CMS
minidisks in my EXEC. I work on to many OSes at once. I can't keep
straight what I am working on 1 min to the next. It's like starting to
write code in one language and mid-way through start writing in a different
language,
I've seen this on SLES11-SP2 too... And I saw some other issues with
SP2, like not arp-ing when bringing a interface online, and hanging
the ssh terminal on exit...
I've solved the problem with a script, running after all services. The
script does the mkswap and swapon on them. And works.
Mauro
h
>>> On 6/13/2012 at 02:57 PM, Marcy Cortes
>>> wrote:
> We've always done it in /etc/init.d/boot.local. That way we are safe from
> whatever changes Linux might make...
What kind of changes?
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>>> On 6/13/2012 at 02:35 PM, Aria Bamdad wrote:
> swapon on /dev/dasdc1
>
> swapon: /dev/dasdc1: found swap signature: version 1, page-size 4, same byte
> order
>
> swapon: /dev/dasdc1: pagesize=4096, swapsize=66547712, devsize=66547200
>
> swapon: /dev/dasdc1: last_page 0x03f77000 is larger
Thanks, Marcy - that was the kick in the head i needed to recall that was
how I did it before SWAPGEN.
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Marcy Cortes wrote:
> We've always done it in /etc/init.d/boot.local. That way we are safe
> from whatever changes Linux might make...
>
> Like this
>
> /sbin
>Currently all of my linux guests IPL CMS to create VDISK swap disks and
>signatures. For a linux to work with LGR it must IPL from a device or NSS
>so no CMS if I want to LGR. I've been doing it this way for so long I'm
>unsure of how I would create the swap signature in my VDISKs without IPLing
Absolutely! And it is a descendent of the P390.
Check out zPDT (System z Personal Development tool: for ISVs developing
software to sell) and RD&T (Rational Develop and Test: for "in-house"
developers who want to get off the primary/production System z. )
Take a look at http://www.p390.com/up
>>> On 6/13/2012 at 01:59 PM, Mark Pace wrote:
> Currently all of my linux guests IPL CMS to create VDISK swap disks and
> signatures. For a linux to work with LGR it must IPL from a device or NSS
> so no CMS if I want to LGR.
That doesn't sound right to me. After the Linux guest IPLs itself (
We've always done it in /etc/init.d/boot.local. That way we are safe from
whatever changes Linux might make...
Like this
/sbin/mkswap /dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.ff00-part1
/sbin/mkswap /dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.ff01-part1
/sbin/mkswap /dev/disk/by-path/ccw-0.0.ff02-part1
/sbin/mkswap /dev/disk/
Thanks, Alan. I guess for simplicities sake just detaching all the
minidisks associated with CMS just before IPLing the Liunx system is the
easiest solution.
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Alan Altmark wrote:
> On Wednesday, 06/13/2012 at 02:09 EDT, Mark Pace
> wrote:
> > Currently all of my l
Hi,
I have found a problem with SWAPGEN once I upgraded to SLES11-sp2. I have
no problem with it working on previous including SP1) versions of SLES but
once I upgraded to SP2, I start seeing the following message at Linux boot:
Swap area shorter than signature indicates
Needless to say, t
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Ron Wells wrote:
> Anyone remember P390 ??
What do you mean "remember" :-)
q cpuid
CPUID = FF007490
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 19:27:57
q cplevel
z/VM Version 3 Release 1.0, service level 0501 (32-bit)
Generated at 11/04/05 20:09:12 CET
IPL at 05/05/12 13:26:17
I relocate my Linux systems and I IPL CMS by default so I can use
SWAPGEN too - what is the actual error message you're getting when you
attempt to relocate ?
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On Wednesday, 06/13/2012 at 02:09 EDT, Mark Pace
wrote:
> Currently all of my linux guests IPL CMS to create VDISK swap disks and
> signatures. For a linux to work with LGR it must IPL from a device or
NSS
> so no CMS if I want to LGR. I've been doing it this way for so long I'm
> unsure of how
It's called the zPDT. Go to this sie for more
information:
http://www.p390.com/zpdt.htm
Billy
On 13 Jun 2012 at 13:02, Ron Wells wrote:
> Anyone remember P390 ??
>
> Is there something that does something similar today ..
>
> To have development/programmers do development for z/OS DB2 CICS...s
Anyone remember P390 ??
Is there something that does something similar today ..
To have development/programmers do development for z/OS DB2 CICS...so on..
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Currently all of my linux guests IPL CMS to create VDISK swap disks and
signatures. For a linux to work with LGR it must IPL from a device or NSS
so no CMS if I want to LGR. I've been doing it this way for so long I'm
unsure of how I would create the swap signature in my VDISKs without IPLing
CMS
2012/6/13 David Boyes
> ...
>
> Try xfs. XFS seems to play nice with the XIVs.
> ...
>
Thanks David.
Unfortunately no luck here either. I've mounted XFS filesystem with discard
option but it doesn't look like
it is doing anything. I've created 2 files with zeros on this fs (100%
used space) and
> Hi David, the TSM server is outside the z/VM system. We connect (2 X OSA)
> from the Mainframe to the TSM (Nexus) switch which is layer 2 and the
> TSM server is also connected to this switch.
> I tried adding an explicit route by creating a route-eth0 file in
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts and
> Hi, I am trying to figure out what is best setup for us. We would like to use
> thin provisioning which is available on XIV (on our FCP LUNs).
> Unfortunately it does not work very good with ext3 file system. To reclaim
> some space I have to "zero out" free space first (after removing files) an
Hi David, the TSM server is outside the z/VM system. We connect (2 X OSA) from
the Mainframe to the TSM (Nexus) switch which is layer 2 and the TSM server is
also connected to this switch.
I tried adding an explicit route by creating a route-eth0 file in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts and this s
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