Re: Format disk and mount FS : lost space

2004-03-18 Thread Carsten Otte
Daniel wrote: The larger the number of cyls for the device, the worse the ratio gets :(. That's not true: CDL uses track0 and track1 for internal purposes, the rest (number of 4k blocks that fit on a track multiplied with amount of tracks) is available for partitions. For people who do not like

Re: Format disk and mount FS : lost space

2004-03-18 Thread Daniel Jarboe
Carsten Otte wrote: Daniel wrote: The larger the number of cyls for the device, the worse the ratio gets :(. That's not true: CDL uses track0 and track1 for internal purposes, the rest (number of 4k blocks that fit on a track multiplied with amount of tracks) is available for partitions.

Re: Format disk and mount FS : lost space

2004-03-18 Thread Romney White
I assume that other disk architectures simply don't report the amount of waster space per track because it isn't accessible (e.g., on SCSI disk). The very real benefits of being able to write variable-length blocks on a disk is something the Unix crowd hasn't discovered, I guess. Romney On Thu,

Re: Format disk and mount FS : lost space

2004-03-18 Thread Fargusson.Alan
of usable space on drives with 3.5 inch platters. It makes it hard to do the mainframe style track and cylinder allocation though. -Original Message- From: Romney White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Format disk and mount FS

Re: Format disk and mount FS : lost space

2004-03-17 Thread Daniel Jarboe
We have formated a mini disk of 285 Cylinders with : dasdfmt -b 4096 -n 0104 dev2:/mnt# less /proc/dasd/devices 0104(ECKD) at ( 94: 16) is dasde : active at blocksize: 4096, 51300 blocks, 200 MB Going over the numbers, the overhead from dasdfmt is startling. At 849,960 bytes a

Re: Format disk and mount FS : lost space

2004-03-17 Thread Davis, Larry
and mount FS : lost space We have formated a mini disk of 285 Cylinders with : dasdfmt -b 4096 -n 0104 dev2:/mnt# less /proc/dasd/devices 0104(ECKD) at ( 94: 16) is dasde : active at blocksize: 4096, 51300 blocks, 200 MB Going over the numbers, the overhead from dasdfmt is startling

Re: Format disk and mount FS : lost space

2004-03-17 Thread Adam Thornton
On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 08:54, Davis, Larry wrote: I know this has been discussed, but what was the final outcome. Should we use EXT2 or EXT3 block size 1024 or 4096 for space allocation on zlinux Depends. 1K blocks will be slower but less wasteful of space if you have lots of files smaller than

Re: Format disk and mount FS : lost space

2004-03-17 Thread Davis, Larry
a caveat in our POC to discuss future enhancements, such as FCP and SCSI drives. A new and changing world ahead us. Thanks Larry -Original Message- From: Adam Thornton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Format disk and mount FS

Re: Format disk and mount FS : lost space

2004-03-17 Thread Jim Sibley
Adam wrote: Depends. 1K blocks will be slower but less wasteful of space if you have lots of files smaller than 4K. For SCSI devices, I would agree with you. For eckd devices, the overhead on 1K blocks is tremendous so what you make up from small files is lost to eckd overhead. Also, for eckd

Format disk and mount FS : lost space

2004-03-08 Thread Raphael Petitjean
Add information , new version, sorry and thanks for your answer hi list, We have formated a mini disk of 285 Cylinders with : dasdfmt -b 4096 -n 0104 dev2:/mnt# less /proc/dasd/devices 0104(ECKD) at ( 94: 16) is dasde : active at blocksize: 4096, 51300 blocks, 200 MB We have 200 MB

Re: Format disk and mount FS : lost space

2004-03-08 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mon, 2004-03-08 at 09:45, Raphael Petitjean wrote: Why we have lost 26 MB ? 6MB appears to have gone, well, I don't know where; formatting probably reduced the capacity somewhat. The 17M in use is mostly your ext3 journal, and 167+17 = 184, so 10M, or 5%, is reserved for root's use. This is