Re: Processor starvation

2004-03-26 Thread Nick Laflamme
David Boyes wrote: since we're running the CPU at 100%, we don't think the problem is all page waits, although there have been some kernel messages from the Websphere machine in particular that memory allocations for Java processes (tasks?) are failing. Check the max heap size for the JVM.

Re: Processor starvation

2004-03-26 Thread Nick Laflamme
Ferguson, Neale wrote: Yes, but if you're not seeing anything in E3 then I guess those settings aren't problematic (although they are set for a more CMS intensive environment). They're basically unmodified. I haven't had to tune them since we IPL'ed to remove the V=R region. Do you use QUICKDSP?

Re: Processor starvation

2004-03-26 Thread Rob van der Heij
Nick Laflamme wrote: Well, it didn't take long for the problem to reappear this morning So you're spending time in system and not in userspace. The memory numbers look very small, and you have not swapped a dime? Are you sure you *have* swap space defined? You were showing pictures of a

Re: Processor starvation

2004-03-26 Thread Nick Laflamme
Rob van der Heij wrote: Nick Laflamme wrote: Well, it didn't take long for the problem to reappear this morning So you're spending time in system and not in userspace. The memory numbers look very small, and you have not swapped a dime? Are you sure you *have* swap space defined? You were

Re: Processor starvation

2004-03-26 Thread Rich Smrcina
You can tell for sure with the 'free' command. On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 07:54, Nick Laflamme wrote: Rob van der Heij wrote: Nick Laflamme wrote: Well, it didn't take long for the problem to reappear this morning So you're spending time in system and not in userspace. The memory

Re: Processor starvation

2004-03-26 Thread Adam Thornton
On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 07:14, Nick Laflamme wrote: Do I replace the file system with one that's not ReiserFS, or what? Is the JVM max heap size somehow tunable? You might try swapping ext3 for ReiserFS. Are you watching the console? If ReiserFS is blowing up you will see a kernel Oops on the

Re: Processor starvation

2004-03-26 Thread David Boyes
What do your swap rate and vmstat output look like? was1:~ # vmstat [... vmstat output ...] [... problem description ...] That vmstat looks OK. From the problem description it sounds more like it's JVM related than file system though. When the JVM initializes, it mallocs and zeros its

Re: Processor starvation

2004-03-26 Thread Loren Charnley, Jr.
Laflamme [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 3:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Processor starvation We're trying to work with Websphere and Oracle 9i as Linux guests (one for each) on an MP 3000 H30 running z/VM 4.4 as a hypervisor. Admittedly, this is a small box (1

Re: Processor starvation

2004-03-26 Thread Jeremy Warren
Is the JVM max heap size somehow tunable? Yes, but I need to look up the syntax. What version of the JRE are you using? I don't know where you would set this in WAS, but the java commandline arguments are -Xmx (Max Size) -Xms (Starting Size) --- Jeremy Warren

Processor starvation

2004-03-25 Thread Nick Laflamme
We're trying to work with Websphere and Oracle 9i as Linux guests (one for each) on an MP 3000 H30 running z/VM 4.4 as a hypervisor. Admittedly, this is a small box (1 GB of storage, and one CPU that's not even running at full-power for an MP 3000), but we're seeing horrible inconsistent response

Re: Processor starvation

2004-03-25 Thread Ferguson, Neale
What are your SRM settings? -Original Message- Most disturbing have been a couple of episodes in which the Websphere guest just simply stops responding to terminal inputs. Our terminal sessions are via ssh, but these sessions seem to just hang. New connections time out, and logged in

Re: Processor starvation

2004-03-25 Thread Rob Schwartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 3:36 PM Subject: Processor starvation We're trying to work with Websphere and Oracle 9i as Linux guests (one for each) on an MP 3000 H30 running z/VM 4.4 as a hypervisor. Admittedly, this is a small box (1 GB of storage, and one

Re: Processor starvation

2004-03-25 Thread Nick Laflamme
Ferguson, Neale wrote: What are your SRM settings? IABIAS : INTENSITY=90%; DURATION=2 LDUBUF : Q1=100% Q2=75% Q3=60% STORBUF: Q1=125% Q2=105% Q3=95% DSPBUF : Q1=32767 Q2=32767 Q3=32767 DISPATCHING MINOR TIMESLICE = 5 MS MAXWSS : LIMIT=%.. : PAGES=99 XSTORE : 0% Do SRM settings

Re: Processor starvation

2004-03-25 Thread Nick Laflamme
Paging rates are sometimes several hundred pages a second to both e-store and disk. Ugly, but true, and adding the volume seemed to remove a bottleneck that had kept us from maxing out the CPU. Rich Smrcina wrote: You indicate that you are adding paging volumes. What is VM's paging rate when

Re: Processor starvation

2004-03-25 Thread Nick Laflamme
Rob Schwartz wrote: Nick, We had the same episodes with un-responsive guests. These virtual machines ended up on the E3 list. We've adjusted our LDUBUF and STORBUF as show below. This allows users not to get stuck on E3. You can see if users are on E3 by doing the indicate load command.

Re: Processor starvation

2004-03-25 Thread Ferguson, Neale
Yes, but if you're not seeing anything in E3 then I guess those settings aren't problematic (although they are set for a more CMS intensive environment). Do you use QUICKDSP? What else is running? What does IND Q and IND Q EXP report? -Original Message- IABIAS : INTENSITY=90%; DURATION=2

Re: Processor starvation

2004-03-25 Thread David Boyes
since we're running the CPU at 100%, we don't think the problem is all page waits, although there have been some kernel messages from the Websphere machine in particular that memory allocations for Java processes (tasks?) are failing. Check the max heap size for the JVM. If you're running