Re: line end characters (was SFTP versus FTP)

2008-07-14 Thread Douglas Wooster
On 07/14/2008 11:07:41 AM Alan Altmark wrote: > On Monday, 07/14/2008 at 10:58 EDT, Douglas Wooster/Raleigh/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > On 07/14/2008 12:35:26 AM Alan Altmark wrote: > > > OPENVM GETBFS and PUTBFS, as well as XEDIT, allow you to specify the > > > end-of-line sequence. The defaul

Re: line end characters (was SFTP versus FTP)

2008-07-14 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 07/14/2008 at 10:58 EDT, Douglas Wooster/Raleigh/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 07/14/2008 12:35:26 AM Alan Altmark wrote: > > OPENVM GETBFS and PUTBFS, as well as XEDIT, allow you to specify the > > end-of-line sequence. The default is NL (0x15). You can also specify > > CRLF (0x0D25),

Re: line end characters (was SFTP versus FTP)

2008-07-14 Thread Douglas Wooster
On 07/14/2008 12:35:26 AM Alan Altmark wrote: > On Thursday, 07/10/2008 at 01:02 EDT, Douglas Wooster/Raleigh/[EMAIL > PROTECTED] > wrote: > > I got this after I sent my last post. Being a z/OS Unix user, > > I sure *wish* conversions would consistently do EBCDIC NL (x'15') > > to/from ASCII LF (

Re: line end characters (was SFTP versus FTP)

2008-07-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 07/10/2008 at 01:02 EDT, Douglas Wooster/Raleigh/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I got this after I sent my last post. Being a z/OS Unix user, > I sure *wish* conversions would consistently do EBCDIC NL (x'15') > to/from ASCII LF (x'0A') instead of EBCDIC NL to/from ISO8859-1 > NEL (x'85')

Re: line end characters (was SFTP versus FTP)

2008-07-10 Thread Douglas Wooster
On 07/10/2008 12:54:12 PM Stephen Frazier wrote: > The reason for EBCDIC codepoints 15 and 25 is to be compatible > with the IBM Selectric Typewriter. One of them would roll the > paper forward a line with out moving the type ball. The other > would put the type ball at the beginning of the next l

Re: line end characters (was SFTP versus FTP)

2008-07-10 Thread Douglas Wooster
I got this after I sent my last post. Being a z/OS Unix user, I sure *wish* conversions would consistently do EBCDIC NL (x'15') to/from ASCII LF (x'0A') instead of EBCDIC NL to/from ISO8859-1 NEL (x'85'), even though I can understand why that might not be technically correct. Or that z/OS Unix wo

Re: line end characters (was SFTP versus FTP)

2008-07-10 Thread Stephen Frazier
The reason for EBCDIC codepoints 15 and 25 is to be compatible with the IBM Selectric Typewriter. One of them would roll the paper forward a line with out moving the type ball. The other would put the type ball at the beginning of the next line. Also their is another codepoint 0A that moved the

Re: line end characters (was SFTP versus FTP)

2008-07-10 Thread Douglas Wooster
On 07/10/2008 12:24:53 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: > On Wednesday, 07/09/2008 at 07:33 EDT, Douglas Wooster/Raleigh/[EMAIL > PROTECTED] > wrote: > > Added one more line separator to the list below. It usually burns me > > when I use iconv. > > > : > > NEL - New/Next Line (ASCII x'85'). May see thi

Re: line end characters (was SFTP versus FTP)

2008-07-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 07/10/2008 at 11:48 EDT, "Fargusson.Alan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > NEL is defined in ISO8859-1 as code point 0x85. In 8859-1 there are control > characters in the range of 0x80 to 0x9f as well as 0x00 to 0x1f. Lots of > documentation on 8859-1 skip the control characters, so many

Re: line end characters (was SFTP versus FTP)

2008-07-10 Thread Fargusson.Alan
--Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 9:25 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: line end characters (was SFTP versus FTP) On Wednesday, 07/09/2008 at 07:33 EDT, Douglas Wooster/Raleigh/[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: line end characters (was SFTP versus FTP)

2008-07-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 07/09/2008 at 07:33 EDT, Douglas Wooster/Raleigh/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Added one more line separator to the list below. It usually burns me > when I use iconv. > : > NEL - New/Next Line (ASCII x'85'). May see this when EBCDIC > data is translated to ASCII, as with iconv. NEL

Re: line end characters (was SFTP versus FTP)

2008-07-09 Thread Douglas Wooster
mmand to translate them > and transform the end-of-line characters. > > > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Edmund R. MacKenty > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:02 PM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: SFTP versus F

Re: SFTP versus FTP

2008-07-09 Thread Eddie Chen
MARIST.EDU Sent by: Linux cc on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject IST.EDU> Re: SFTP versus FTP 07/09/2008

Re: SFTP versus FTP

2008-07-09 Thread Szwed, Tomasz A CIV USMEPCOM
fixed Thanks again for all the help I got. Tomasz -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stewart Thomas J Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:16 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SFTP versus FTP For reference, these are what you'll be

Re: SFTP versus FTP

2008-07-09 Thread Eddie Chen
Sent by: Linux cc on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject IST.EDU> Re: SFTP versus FTP 07/09/2008 02:02 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Por

Re: SFTP versus FTP

2008-07-09 Thread Stewart Thomas J
s of options for that. We do some transfers where we do binary FTP them to z/OS and then use the iconv and Unix System Services cp command to translate them and transform the end-of-line characters. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edmund R.

Re: SFTP versus FTP

2008-07-09 Thread Henry E Schaffer
Tomasz writes: > I have a file on Unix server. When I transfer that file from Unix to Linux > using FTP - I'm getting file with the same size. > When I use SFTP, I'm getting file smaller by 79 bytes. The file has 79 > lines. > That file is then FTP from Linux to z/OS - using FTP batch job on z/O

Re: SFTP versus FTP

2008-07-09 Thread Douglas Wooster
On 07/09/2008 01:00:22 PM, Szwed, Tomasz A CIV USMEPCOM wrote: > I have a file on Unix server. When I transfer that file from Unix to Linux > using FTP - I'm getting file with the same size. > When I use SFTP, I'm getting file smaller by 79 bytes. The file has 79 > lines. > That file is then FTP

Re: SFTP versus FTP

2008-07-09 Thread Edmund R. MacKenty
On Wednesday 09 July 2008 13:00, Szwed, Tomasz A CIV USMEPCOM wrote: > I have a file on Unix server. When I transfer that file from Unix to Linux >using FTP - I'm getting file with the same size. >When I use SFTP, I'm getting file smaller by 79 bytes. The file has 79 >lines. >That file is then FT

SFTP versus FTP

2008-07-09 Thread Szwed, Tomasz A CIV USMEPCOM
I have a file on Unix server. When I transfer that file from Unix to Linux using FTP - I'm getting file with the same size. When I use SFTP, I'm getting file smaller by 79 bytes. The file has 79 lines. That file is then FTP from Linux to z/OS - using FTP batch job on z/OS (using "get" command).