Re: Swap behavior change between SLES 11SP2 and 11SP3?

2014-01-15 Thread Veencamp, Jonathon D.
Ted, I can't speak to the differences between kernels, but also I am very interested in your thread. Our SLES10 and SLES 11 experience has been that even with VDISK as swap on a VM system that is NOT overcommitted on memory, that any linux swapping is just kills us with the same sort of

Re: Swap behavior change between SLES 11SP2 and 11SP3?

2014-01-15 Thread David Boyes
I'm not sure what you would expect VM to be able to do here. All OSes pretty much suspend operations while this kind of what can I do without decision-making is going on inside the kernel. If the Linux kernel is taking it's time sorting out what pages are clean/dirty/pageable, the only thing

Re: Swap behavior change between SLES 11SP2 and 11SP3?

2014-01-15 Thread Barton Robinson
With all of the installations (100s) i've worked with using vdisk for swap, this would be the first complaint i've heard with the exception of some bad configuration defaults. If you had really good performance management tools, I'd be happy to look at the data. On 1/15/2014 5:44 AM, Veencamp,

Re: Swap behavior change between SLES 11SP2 and 11SP3?

2014-01-15 Thread Veencamp, Jonathon D.
Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Barton Robinson Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:23 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Swap behavior change between SLES 11SP2 and 11SP3? With all of the installations (100s) i've worked with using vdisk

Swap behavior change between SLES 11SP2 and 11SP3?

2014-01-14 Thread Ted Rodriguez-Bell
We've noticed something pretty bothersome for our environment when we went from SLES 11SP2 to 11SP3. The penalty for using more virtual memory on a machine than you have real memory allocated to it has gone up dramatically. Have any of you seen anything like this? This has been seen with all