Re: multipl cpu's

2011-04-26 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:34 AM, rodgerd rodg...@israel.diaspora.gen.nz wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:53:21 +0200, Rob van der Heij rvdh...@velocity-software.com wrote: If it is non-blocking, why would one be concerned about the elapsed time of GC and what would be the interest of having

Re: multipl cpu's

2011-04-26 Thread Richard Gasiorowski
unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. From: Rob van der Heij rvdh...@velocity-software.com To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Date: 04/26/2011 05:34 AM Subject: Re: multipl cpu's On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:34 AM

multipl cpu's

2011-04-25 Thread Dean, David (I/S)
Can some of you weigh in on the merits (demerits) of defining multiple CPU's to virtual Linux boxes? We are heavy WebSphere and have gotten differing opinions. Thank you, David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee -

Re: multipl cpu's

2011-04-25 Thread Mark Post
On 4/25/2011 at 09:34 AM, Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: Can some of you weigh in on the merits (demerits) of defining multiple CPU's to virtual Linux boxes? We are heavy WebSphere and have gotten differing opinions. The typical advice is that if you are driving a single

Re: multipl cpu's

2011-04-25 Thread Ron Foster at Baldor-IS
Hello, We are a SAP shop and do not run WebSphere. However we do run some SAP Java instances. On some of those systems, we have found it beneficial to define two CPUS, and let the garbage collector know about it. Depending on the size of your heap, sometimes the the garbage collection times

Re: multipl cpu's

2011-04-25 Thread Tom Duerbusch
The generic rules of thumb: 1. Don't define more virtual cpus than you have real available. 2. Don't define more virtual cpus than you need. With Websphere: Two cpus or more are best. Websphere has a process, in which two tasks talk to each other. If each process has a cpu then they don't

Re: multipl cpu's

2011-04-25 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Ron Foster at Baldor-IS rfos...@baldor.com wrote: We are a SAP shop and do not run WebSphere.  However we do run some SAP Java instances.  On some of those systems, we have found it beneficial to define two CPUS, and let the garbage collector know about it.

Re: multipl cpu's

2011-04-25 Thread Alan Cox
One of the problems with Java Garbage Collection is that it halts other work in the JVM for the duration of the GC (because you're moving stuff around, you can't have people trying to use it). While GC has improved over time to reduce the amount of objects handled during each scan, my

Re: multipl cpu's

2011-04-25 Thread David Boyes
Schoeberl and Puffitsch for one produced a mostly non blocking garbage collection for Java which only blocks the threads it needs and only at the points it has to. Rather useful for multi-threaded systems. If it is non-blocking, why would one be concerned about the elapsed time of GC

Re: multipl cpu's

2011-04-25 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: One of the problems with Java Garbage Collection is that it halts other work in the JVM for the duration of the GC (because you're moving stuff around, you can't have people trying to use it). While GC has improved over

Re: multipl cpu's

2011-04-25 Thread Richard Gasiorowski
: Re: multipl cpu's One of the problems with Java Garbage Collection is that it halts other work in the JVM for the duration of the GC (because you're moving stuff around, you can't have people trying to use it). While GC has improved over time to reduce the amount of objects handled during

Re: multipl cpu's

2011-04-25 Thread Alan Cox
Schoeberl and Puffitsch for one produced a mostly non blocking garbage collection for Java which only blocks the threads it needs and only at the points it has to. Rather useful for multi-threaded systems. If it is non-blocking, why would one be concerned about the elapsed time of GC and

Re: multipl cpu's

2011-04-25 Thread rodgerd
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 09:34:25 -0400, Dean, David (I/S) david_d...@bcbst.com wrote: Can some of you weigh in on the merits (demerits) of defining multiple CPU's to virtual Linux boxes? We are heavy WebSphere and have gotten differing opinions. For what it's worth we generally allocate vCPUs in

Re: multipl cpu's

2011-04-25 Thread rodgerd
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:53:21 +0200, Rob van der Heij rvdh...@velocity-software.com wrote: If it is non-blocking, why would one be concerned about the elapsed time of GC and what would be the interest of having multiple threads working in parallel on GC. Or would you really have allocation