Re: Future-Watch: Big changes to login and /home directory handling

2020-04-30 Thread Rick Troth
So what I'd like is a POSIX system with a Linux kernel and Gnu userspace. Bitching and moaning aside, what the article describes from 'homed' is already accomplished using 'autofs'. This is another case of SystemD subsuming some satisfactory subsystem. Why? I confess that I didn't follow all the

Re: Fwd: Future-Watch: Big changes to login and /home directory handling

2020-04-30 Thread Cohen, Sam
You sure this article isn't 30 days late? Thanks, Sam (217) 862-9227 (office) (602) 327-2134 (cell) -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Dave McGuire Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 10:11 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Fwd: Future-Watch: Big changes to

Re: Future-Watch: Big changes to login and /home directory handling

2020-04-30 Thread Dave McGuire
On 4/30/20 12:41 PM, Rick Troth wrote: > Bitching and moaning aside, what the article describes from 'homed' is > already accomplished using 'autofs'. This is another case of SystemD > subsuming some satisfactory subsystem. Why? ... > I get a strong sense that someone just dislikes the historical

Re: FW: Dracut error after Booting default (grub) message

2020-04-30 Thread marcy cortes
> you aren't the only one. > > Something's definitely different. Open a case with your Linux support. > > For at least all of the system volumes (ones needed to boot) , consider > erasing the 51-dasd* rules in /etc/udev/rules.d and then using "chzdev -e " > to put back new 41-dasd-eckd* rules. >

Re: Fwd: Future-Watch: Big changes to login and /home directory handling

2020-04-30 Thread Dave McGuire
On 4/30/20 10:31 AM, Dave Jones wrote: > This might be of some interest to the folks that follow this list. > > Scheduled for release this year. If adopted, it has the potential for > good and ill. /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow going away, replaced with > encrypted JSON, and other changes. > >

Re: Fwd: Future-Watch: Big changes to login and /home directory handling

2020-04-30 Thread Gregg Levine
Hello! Um no. They swam off last week, leaving the recently hatched ones to run things. Sorry Dave M, in the world of Linux a really bad penguin joke is normally appropriate for SystemD. Personally, I prefer systems without it, which is why I run Slackware here. The only system I do have is a Pi

Re: Fwd: Future-Watch: Big changes to login and /home directory handling

2020-04-30 Thread Robert J Brenneman
Guys... Linux is not UNIX. It used to kinda sorta be, but it isn't anymore. The people who like the UNIX way are a small minority in the Linux community. Everyone ( besides you ) wants it to go towards the magical MacOS land of 'do what I want without asking me about it all the time' for

Re: Future-Watch: Big changes to login and /home directory handling

2020-04-30 Thread Luciano Mannucci
On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 14:42:33 + David Boyes wrote: >somebody please make it stop > > +1. Devuan on S/360? Freebsd? Luciano. -- /"\ /Via A. Salaino, 7 - 20144 Milano (Italy) \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN / PHONE : +39 2 485781 FAX: +39 2 48578250 X AGAINST HTML

Re: Future-Watch: Big changes to login and /home directory handling

2020-04-30 Thread Robert J Brenneman
[deepest sarcasm voice] excuse me, but the system you refer to as Linux is actually a SystemD system with a Linux kernel and GNU userspace. On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 11:21 AM Luciano Mannucci wrote: > On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 14:42:33 + > David Boyes wrote: > > >somebody please make it stop

Fwd: Future-Watch: Big changes to login and /home directory handling

2020-04-30 Thread Dave Jones
This might be of some interest to the folks that follow this list. Scheduled for release this year. If adopted, it has the potential for good and ill. /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow going away, replaced with encrypted JSON, and other changes.

Re: Fwd: Future-Watch: Big changes to login and /home directory handling

2020-04-30 Thread Dan Horák
On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 07:31:53 -0700 Dave Jones wrote: > This might be of some interest to the folks that follow this list. > > Scheduled for release this year. If adopted, it has the potential for > good and ill. /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow going away, replaced with > encrypted JSON, and other

Re: Fwd: Future-Watch: Big changes to login and /home directory handling

2020-04-30 Thread Rick Troth
somebody please make it stop On 4/30/20 10:31 AM, Dave Jones wrote: > This might be of some interest to the folks that follow this list. > > Scheduled for release this year. If adopted, it has the potential for > good and ill. /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow going away, replaced with > encrypted

Re: Future-Watch: Big changes to login and /home directory handling

2020-04-30 Thread David Boyes
On 4/30/20, 10:41 AM, "Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Rick Troth" wrote: somebody please make it stop +1. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu

Openshift on zlinux

2020-04-30 Thread Peter
Hello Group Apologies for the dumb question. Can we run openshift on zlinux running on top of zVM(z14 hardware) instead of linuxone ? Is there anyone who have tried this ? Or else this is only specific to linuxone box ? Peter

Re: Linux for IBM Z/LinuxONE on a PC or Mac with QEMU

2020-04-30 Thread Timothy Sipples
Dan Horák wrote: >and with virt-manager it should be even easier, it will hide all the low >level details and will present a VM that "just work" Yes, virt-manager is a handy tool (where available). Alan Altmark wrote: >Nice piece of work! (I never realized QEMU was a general purpose >emulator,

Re: Openshift on zlinux

2020-04-30 Thread Dan Horák
On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 11:56:40 +0400 Peter wrote: > Hello Group > > Apologies for the dumb question. > > Can we run openshift on zlinux running on top of zVM(z14 hardware) > instead of linuxone ? Is there anyone who have tried this ? Or else > this is only specific to linuxone box ? yes, z14 with

Re: Openshift on zlinux

2020-04-30 Thread Antonio Jesús Lozano Bonilla
I have one of this, three masters two workers and all over z/VM. El jue., 30 abr. 2020 a las 10:12, Dan Horák () escribió: > On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 11:56:40 +0400 > Peter wrote: > > > Hello Group > > > > Apologies for the dumb question. > > > > Can we run openshift on zlinux running on top of