Re: [PATCH] x86: Deprecate a.out support

2019-03-11 Thread Måns Rullgård
Linus Torvalds writes: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 2:34 PM Arnd Bergmann wrote: >> >> The main historic use case I've heard of was running Netscape >> Navigator on Alpha Linux, before there was an open source version. >> Doing this today to connect to the open internet is probably >> a bit

Re: [PATCH] x86: Deprecate a.out support

2019-03-11 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 2:34 PM Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 8:47 PM Måns Rullgård wrote: > > Linus Torvalds writes: > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:08 AM Måns Rullgård wrote: > > >> > > >> The latest version I have is 5.1, and that uses ECOFF. > > > > > > ECOFF _is_ a.out

Re: [PATCH] x86: Deprecate a.out support

2019-03-11 Thread Måns Rullgård
Arnd Bergmann writes: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 8:47 PM Måns Rullgård wrote: >> Linus Torvalds writes: >> > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:08 AM Måns Rullgård wrote: >> >> >> >> The latest version I have is 5.1, and that uses ECOFF. >> > >> > ECOFF _is_ a.out as far as Linux is concerned. >> > >>

Re: [PATCH] x86: Deprecate a.out support

2019-03-11 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 2:34 PM Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > The main historic use case I've heard of was running Netscape > Navigator on Alpha Linux, before there was an open source version. > Doing this today to connect to the open internet is probably > a bit pointless, but there may be other use

Re: [PATCH] x86: Deprecate a.out support

2019-03-11 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 8:47 PM Måns Rullgård wrote: > Linus Torvalds writes: > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:08 AM Måns Rullgård wrote: > >> > >> The latest version I have is 5.1, and that uses ECOFF. > > > > ECOFF _is_ a.out as far as Linux is concerned. > > > > So Linux basically treats ECOFF

Re: [PATCH] x86: Deprecate a.out support

2019-03-11 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 12:47 PM Måns Rullgård wrote: > > Linus Torvalds writes: > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:08 AM Måns Rullgård wrote: > >> > >> The latest version I have is 5.1, and that uses ECOFF. > > > > ECOFF _is_ a.out as far as Linux is concerned. > > > > So Linux basically treats

Re: [PATCH] x86: Deprecate a.out support

2019-03-11 Thread Måns Rullgård
Linus Torvalds writes: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:08 AM Måns Rullgård wrote: >> >> The latest version I have is 5.1, and that uses ECOFF. > > ECOFF _is_ a.out as far as Linux is concerned. > > So Linux basically treats ECOFF as "regular a.out with just some > header extensions". > > We don't

Re: [PATCH] x86: Deprecate a.out support

2019-03-11 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:08 AM Måns Rullgård wrote: > > The latest version I have is 5.1, and that uses ECOFF. ECOFF _is_ a.out as far as Linux is concerned. So Linux basically treats ECOFF as "regular a.out with just some header extensions". We don't have any specific support for ECOFF. I

Re: [PATCH] x86: Deprecate a.out support

2019-03-11 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 9:26 AM Måns Rullgård wrote: > > Linus Torvalds writes: > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 2:37 PM Matt Turner wrote: > >> > >> I'm not aware of a reason to keep a.out support on alpha. > > > > Hmm. I was looking at removing a.out support entirely, but it's > > actually

Re: [PATCH] x86: Deprecate a.out support

2019-03-11 Thread Måns Rullgård
Linus Torvalds writes: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 9:26 AM Måns Rullgård wrote: >> >> Anyone running an Alpha machine likely also has some old OSF/1 binaries >> they may wish to use. It would be a shame to remove this feature, IMO. > > If that's the case then we'd have to keep a.out alive for

Re: [PATCH] x86: Deprecate a.out support

2019-03-11 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 9:26 AM Måns Rullgård wrote: > > Anyone running an Alpha machine likely also has some old OSF/1 binaries > they may wish to use. It would be a shame to remove this feature, IMO. If that's the case then we'd have to keep a.out alive for alpha, since that's the OSF/1

Re: [PATCH] x86: Deprecate a.out support

2019-03-11 Thread Måns Rullgård
Linus Torvalds writes: > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 2:37 PM Matt Turner wrote: >> >> I'm not aware of a reason to keep a.out support on alpha. > > Hmm. I was looking at removing a.out support entirely, but it's > actually fairly incestuous on alpha. > > For example,

[PATCH] y2038: fix socket.h header inclusion

2019-03-11 Thread Arnd Bergmann
Referencing the __kernel_long_t type caused some user space applications to stop compiling when they had not already included linux/posix_types.h, e.g. s/multicast.c -o ext/sockets/multicast.lo In file included from /builddir/build/BUILD/php-7.3.3/main/php.h:468, from

[PATCH] arch: alpha: Kconfig: pedantic formatting

2019-03-11 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
Formatting of Kconfig files doesn't look so pretty, so let the Great White Handkerchief come around and clean it up. Signed-off-by: Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult --- arch/alpha/Kconfig | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/arch/alpha/Kconfig

Re: [PATCH] x86: Deprecate a.out support

2019-03-11 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 11:46 PM Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 2:37 PM Matt Turner wrote: > > > > I'm not aware of a reason to keep a.out support on alpha. > > Hmm. I was looking at removing a.out support entirely, but it's > actually fairly incestuous on alpha. > > For

Re: [PATCH] x86: Deprecate a.out support

2019-03-11 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Linus! On 3/11/19 7:40 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote: > So this attached patch does not compile on alpha, but it's been many > many years since I had an alpha to test with, so I'm stuck. Michael Cree (CC'ed) has several Alpha servers running which are also used for building Debian packages and