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Just a funny story to this:
Some weeks ago I jammed with a friend, a convinced osx user, at home.
My all purpose notebook was running with openoffice firefox and
thunderbird and eclipse as I worked with it before, so there was a first
strange look
David Robillard:
Let's just fix the interaction between pulse and jack and be done with
it.
That is one solution.
It's harmful to suggest that it things are less than they are
Read the user posts in this thread, or ths post that started it. Things
are as they are. Pretending everything
Patrick Shirkey:
Hi,
For those of you who are not subscribed to LAU, yesterday I had time to
run a test to see how easy and stable it was to run pulseaudio with jack
on Fedora 11.
I had a few problems at first but after upgrading to pulseaudio-0.9.16
(latest dev version) I was able to
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Ralf Mardorfralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
Chris Cannam wrote:
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Raymond Martinlase...@gmail.com wrote:
What possible counter-argument can there be left?
http://lwn.net/Articles/61292/ (same guy you just cited, explaining
why
On Friday 07 August 2009 06:51:08 Paul Davis wrote:
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Ralf Mardorfralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net
wrote:
Chris Cannam wrote:
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Raymond Martinlase...@gmail.com wrote:
What possible counter-argument can there be left?
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 06:51:08AM -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
For emphasis, I just want to paste that sentence (and the following
one) again for Raymond, with attribution:
Eben Moglen, attorney for the FSF: The claim that a GPL violation
could lead to the forcing open of proprietary code that
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Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
Robin Gareus wrote:
Hi Rui et al,
I just found that recent kernel development (merging IRQ threads into
mainline) breaks the rtirq setup script. Basically rtirq does nothing.
[..]
It looks like a new set of regexps for
On Friday 07 August 2009 08:56:30 Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 06:51:08AM -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
For emphasis, I just want to paste that sentence (and the following
one) again for Raymond, with attribution:
Eben Moglen, attorney for the FSF: The claim that a GPL
Raymond Martin wrote:
That's nice, but I would like for someone to show me how this pertains to the
current line of discussion. The fact is that code does become GPL once you
mix it with other GPL code.
Hi Raymond :)
I searched the web and discussed this also off-list.
Today in the early
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On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 03:45:13PM +0100, Dr Nicholas J Bailey wrote:
On Tuesday 04 Aug 2009 09:10:21 Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 08:33:22AM +0100, Nick Bailey wrote:
Well, calling it your own is out of order, but as long as
Robin Gareus wrote:
Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
this issue on 2.6.31-rt has been already reported privately and i'll get
to it as soon i get back home from vacation. meanwhile, it really looks
like a regex trickery is all that's needed,
I'm not so sure, Since 2.6.31 it is also possible to
On 7 Aug 2009, at 12:55, Raymond Martin wrote:
On Friday 07 August 2009 06:51:08 Paul Davis wrote:
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Ralf Mardorfralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net
wrote:
Chris Cannam wrote:
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Raymond Martinlase...@gmail.com
wrote:
What possible
a simple regex oneliner anymore and i'm afraid it might need a
deeper retouch...
not so deeper, more than a simple regex fix but some bash trickery now
added: please, try the attached patch (rtirq-20090807-1.diff) and tell ;)
cheers
--
rncbc aka Rui Nuno Capela
rn...@rncbc.org
--- rtirq-20090626
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:14:23AM -0400, Raymond Martin wrote:
On Friday 07 August 2009 08:56:30 Fons Adriaensen wrote:
Which makes perfect sense. In a civilised society even
a convicted thief retains all the rights to his legally
acquired property. If any of it has to be seized, for
Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:14:23AM -0400, Raymond Martin wrote:
On Friday 07 August 2009 08:56:30 Fons Adriaensen wrote:
Which makes perfect sense. In a civilised society even
a convicted thief retains all the rights to his legally
acquired property. If
On Friday 07 August 2009 10:07:31 Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:14:23AM -0400, Raymond Martin wrote:
On Friday 07 August 2009 08:56:30 Fons Adriaensen wrote:
Which makes perfect sense. In a civilised society even
a convicted thief retains all the rights to his legally
intended (eg. snd = irq/17-HDA
Inte and nothing else)
not just a simple regex oneliner anymore and i'm afraid it might need a
deeper retouch...
not so deeper, more than a simple regex fix but some bash trickery now
added: please, try the attached patch (rtirq-20090807-1.diff) and tell
There are cases in the US, for instance, where people growing marijuana
for their medical conditions have had their homes seized and never returned.
No justice there. That's real police stuff.
Sometimes western civilization behaves like the Third Reich did, but for
FLOSS I never read or
On Friday 07 August 2009 09:51:05 you wrote:
On 7 Aug 2009, at 12:55, Raymond Martin wrote:
On Friday 07 August 2009 06:51:08 Paul Davis wrote:
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Ralf Mardorfralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net
For emphasis, I just want to paste that sentence (and the following
one)
I'm not a developer, just interested in Linux audio development
because I use Linux audio software almost daily, and as such I've been
lurking on this list for awhile. So this is just a practical
suggestion / brainstorming idea, not meant to incur flames (I wish I
could heat my studio by the
Raymond Martin wrote:
On Friday 07 August 2009 09:51:05 you wrote:
On 7 Aug 2009, at 12:55, Raymond Martin wrote:
On Friday 07 August 2009 06:51:08 Paul Davis wrote:
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Ralf Mardorfralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net
For emphasis, I just want to
On Friday 07 August 2009, Jens M Andreasen wrote:
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 00:44 +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
at the risk of starting another zillion-mail thread,
Pamela Jones wrote that You won't get shot at dawn for not
understanding the GPL ..
This needs fixing!!!
So you are in favor of
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 11:02 +0200, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote:
Well, in my opinion, everything really is fantastic right now.
[...]
A person coming directly from win/mac probably wouldn't have
succeeded though, since jack needed to be configured and
I had to manually install the pulseaudio
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:39:44AM -0400, Raymond Martin wrote:
Regardless of all this: a private person or group
can't ever do this. Only law enforcement or the
justice system can, and in the case of the first
it is temporary (for securtiy or investigation),
and if not it needs
Inte and nothing else)
not just a simple regex oneliner anymore and i'm afraid it might need a
deeper retouch...
not so deeper, more than a simple regex fix but some bash trickery now
added: please, try the attached patch (rtirq-20090807-1.diff) and tell ;)
Almost - it fails because HDA
On Friday 07 August 2009 12:40:44 Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:39:44AM -0400, Raymond Martin wrote:
Regardless of all this: a private person or group
can't ever do this. Only law enforcement or the
justice system can, and in the case of the first
it is temporary
2009/8/6 Grammostola Rosea rosea.grammost...@gmail.com:
I don't know if I can really recommend Linux for pro audio to normal
human beings... at least I should say, you need a lot of time, not easy
give up on things and a lot of patience...
How much do normal human beings need pro audio
Just two observations, only generally related:
If you have an OSX system without the installation discs, and you want
to install a free C/C++ compiler, the *only* way I have found is with
a download of several hundred MB from the official OSX website with
*lots* of extra stuff, examples, docs,
(rtirq-20090807-1.diff) and tell ;)
Almost - it fails because HDA Inte has a space in it. So
${NAME2} is only HDA instead of HDA Intel.
I've added quotation marks around ${NAME2} to the rtirq_exec_num and
rtirq_exec_name function calls (line 167 and line 231) and then it works.
However
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 20:10 +0300, Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
How much do normal human beings need pro audio production tools?
According to Apple marketing research, about 10% of perfectly normal
human beings plays an instrument - mostly either guitar or keyboard -
and would also like to use their
On Friday 07 August 2009 13:10:50 Raymond Martin wrote:
Show me where I have done something wrong. I am not seizing anything
by taking what is freely given. Make sense. I showed in another post that
there is nothing wrong with decompilation under GPL
I don't see you as having done something
On Aug 7, 2009, at 2:07 PM, drew Roberts wrote:
Naturally, forking a GPL project is OK.
Forking a project and calling it something nearly identical (removing
a dash) cannot help but generate confusion and is an example of
hostile fork.
Here are some guidelines for forking, which seem
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Robert Kellerkel...@cs.hmc.edu wrote:
Don't bother to reply. I leave this group with a fair amount of
bitterness and disappointment in the way one of your members has
conducted himself.
One of our members? Nobody else on this list had ever heard of him
either,
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:46:42PM +0100, Chris Cannam wrote:
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Robert Kellerkel...@cs.hmc.edu wrote:
Don't bother to reply. I leave this group with a fair amount of
bitterness and disappointment in the way one of your members has
conducted himself.
One of
On Friday 07 August 2009 17:31:36 Robert Keller wrote:
On Aug 7, 2009, at 2:07 PM, drew Roberts wrote:
Naturally, forking a GPL project is OK.
Forking a project and calling it something nearly identical (removing
a dash) cannot help but generate confusion and is an example of
hostile fork.
Forgot to send to the list.
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Thomas Vecchione seabla...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Raymond Martin lase...@gmail.com wrote:
Not at all. There is even evidence in the FSF documentation somewhere
exactly
about this point and they vehemently
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Jens M
Andreasenjens.andrea...@comhem.se wrote:
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 20:10 +0300, Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
How much do normal human beings need pro audio production tools?
According to Apple marketing research, about 10% of perfectly normal
human beings plays
Thomas Vecchione wrote:
Forgot to send to the list.
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Thomas Vecchione seabla...@gmail.com
mailto:seabla...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Raymond Martin lase...@gmail.com
mailto:lase...@gmail.com wrote:
Not at all. There
Once again forgot to hit Reply-All.
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote:
I'm not interested to take sides, I only want to learn about the GPL.
Assumed that Miss B. forks a GPL'd project, as far as I understand the GPL,
Miss R. is allowed to fork a
Damn Reply-To-All, yet again.
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Thomas Vecchione seabla...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Chuckk Hubbard
badmuthahubb...@gmail.comwrote:
I guess my thought was that people who want to use audio
professionally are less likely to make
Thomas Vecchione wrote:
Once again forgot to hit Reply-All.
It's weekend :D.
You are confusing Copyright and Trademark Law. Copyright law says that yes
they can fork the project.
Trademark Law however says that Miss B. is allowed to follow up legally to
prevent a trademark, which can
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:21 PM, James Cameron qu...@us.netrek.org wrote:
The installation discs for Mac OS X already contain software licensed
under the GNU GPL (e.g. bash), so the additional obligations under the
GPL would not have been the reason to exclude a compiler.
It seems much more
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