Re: [LAD] Finding ALSA sequencer client/port numbers

2011-04-22 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 07:55:33PM -0400, David Robillard wrote: > Why do you know the names of the required ports but not the numbers? The names are lust 'Launchpad', the numbers are not fixed AFAIK. > P.S. The direct USB interface to the launchpad is pretty simple, I'm > driving mine without

Re: [LAD] Finding ALSA sequencer client/port numbers

2011-04-22 Thread David Robillard
On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 22:30 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 06:06:54PM -0400, David Robillard wrote: > > > Alsa sequencer names aren't unique or intended for use as identifiers, > > you probably don't want to do this if it's at all possible to avoid... > > If that's true,

Re: [LAD] Finding ALSA sequencer client/port numbers

2011-04-22 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 07:22:59PM -0400, Paul Davis wrote: > i don't think so. but since, as dave pointed out, there is no > particular mapping between client IDs and names, there's really no way > to do this. i think. like i said, i consider the whole design totally > FUBAR'ed. if you use numer

Re: [LAD] Finding ALSA sequencer client/port numbers

2011-04-22 Thread Paul Davis
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > It seems that sending the OSC command /ardour/transport_play > a second time has the effect of locating back to the previous > start position and resuming play from there. Could be useful, > but is this intentional ? The 'Start' widget doe

Re: [LAD] Finding ALSA sequencer client/port numbers

2011-04-22 Thread Paul Davis
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Lieven Moors wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 07:09:24PM -0400, Paul Davis wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Lieven Moors wrote: >> >> > I had a similar problem in my studio when I wanted to restore >> > connections with multiple ZynaddsubFX instances. Al

Re: [LAD] Finding ALSA sequencer client/port numbers

2011-04-22 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 06:55:18PM -0400, Paul Davis wrote: > for myself, i think its reasonable accurate to say that ALSA's > identification of MIDI ports is totally FUBAR'ed. this doesn't help > much. :-) or mayby :-( > i'm not quite sure what you mean about ardour (2's) behaviour, but its >

Re: [LAD] Finding ALSA sequencer client/port numbers

2011-04-22 Thread Lieven Moors
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 07:09:24PM -0400, Paul Davis wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Lieven Moors wrote: > > > I had a similar problem in my studio when I wanted to restore > > connections with multiple ZynaddsubFX instances. All the port names > > were the same, so I had no way of know

Re: [LAD] Finding ALSA sequencer client/port numbers

2011-04-22 Thread Paul Davis
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Lieven Moors wrote: > I had a similar problem in my studio when I wanted to restore > connections with multiple ZynaddsubFX instances. All the port names > were the same, so I had no way of knowing which was which. > And the client ID is not much help either, beca

Re: [LAD] Finding ALSA sequencer client/port numbers

2011-04-22 Thread Lieven Moors
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 10:30:55PM +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 06:06:54PM -0400, David Robillard wrote: > > > Alsa sequencer names aren't unique or intended for use as identifiers, > > you probably don't want to do this if it's at all possible to avoid... > > If that'

Re: [LAD] Finding ALSA sequencer client/port numbers

2011-04-22 Thread Paul Davis
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 06:06:54PM -0400, David Robillard wrote: > >> Alsa sequencer names aren't unique or intended for use as identifiers, >> you probably don't want to do this if it's at all possible to avoid... > > If that's true, what

Re: [LAD] Finding ALSA sequencer client/port numbers

2011-04-22 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 06:06:54PM -0400, David Robillard wrote: > Alsa sequencer names aren't unique or intended for use as identifiers, > you probably don't want to do this if it's at all possible to avoid... If that's true, what purpose do they have at all ? In this concrete case, I have Pyt

Re: [LAD] Finding ALSA sequencer client/port numbers

2011-04-22 Thread David Robillard
On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 21:10 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 04:51:53PM -0400, Paul Davis wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Fons Adriaensen > > wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > after reading ASLA docs for some hours I've not found an > > > answer to the followi

Re: [LAD] Finding ALSA sequencer client/port numbers

2011-04-22 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:24:47PM +0200, Dominic Sacré wrote: > On Friday 22 April 2011 22:45:34 Fons Adriaensen wrote: > > after reading ASLA docs for some hours I've not found an > > answer to the following: > > > > Given the ALSA sequencer client and port _names_, find the > > numbers required

Re: [LAD] Finding ALSA sequencer client/port numbers

2011-04-22 Thread Dominic Sacré
On Friday 22 April 2011 22:45:34 Fons Adriaensen wrote: > after reading ASLA docs for some hours I've not found an > answer to the following: > > Given the ALSA sequencer client and port _names_, find the > numbers required to set up a connection (a 'subscription' > in ALSA lingo). ALSA client an

Re: [LAD] Finding ALSA sequencer client/port numbers

2011-04-22 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 04:51:53PM -0400, Paul Davis wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > after reading ASLA docs for some hours I've not found an > > answer to the following: > > > > Given the ALSA sequencer client and port _names_, find the > >

Re: [LAD] Finding ALSA sequencer client/port numbers

2011-04-22 Thread Paul Davis
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > Hello all, > > after reading ASLA docs for some hours I've not found an > answer to the following: > > Given the ALSA sequencer client and port _names_, find the > numbers required to set up a connection (a 'subscription' > in ALSA lingo).

[LAD] Finding ALSA sequencer client/port numbers

2011-04-22 Thread Fons Adriaensen
Hello all, after reading ASLA docs for some hours I've not found an answer to the following: Given the ALSA sequencer client and port _names_, find the numbers required to set up a connection (a 'subscription' in ALSA lingo). Anyone knows how to do this ? Ciao, -- FA _

Re: [LAD] Max V. Mathews (1926-2011)

2011-04-22 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, April 22, 2011 04:38:36 PM Brad Garton did opine: > On Apr 22, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Folderol wrote: > > I think it a great shame that none of today's kids seem to be taught > > about these people. or given any clue about how ideas from different > > people build on each other. > > "none"

Re: [LAD] Max V. Mathews (1926-2011)

2011-04-22 Thread Brad Garton
On Apr 22, 2011, at 3:11 PM, Folderol wrote: > I think it a great shame that none of today's kids seem to be taught about > these people. or given any clue about how ideas from different people build on > each other. "none" is kind of broad paintbrush, I think. The above is not true of the clas

Re: [LAD] Max V. Mathews (1926-2011)

2011-04-22 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, April 22, 2011 03:54:36 PM Folderol did opine: > On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:22:31 -0400 > > Paul Davis wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Paul Davis wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Geoff Beasley > > > > > > wrote: > > >> On 04/22/2011 01:28 PM, gene heskett wro

Re: [LAD] Max V. Mathews (1926-2011)

2011-04-22 Thread Ricardus Vincente
On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 20:32 +0200, Ralf wrote: > On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 14:22 -0400, Paul Davis wrote: > > on re-reading this i want to stress that it was absolutely not my > > intention to somehow try to tangle up ardour in mathew's legacy, or > > enjoy the side-effects of his well deserved fame.

Re: [LAD] Max V. Mathews (1926-2011)

2011-04-22 Thread Victor Lazzarini
I'm with you on this: I would not be doing what I am doing if it was not for a similar chain of events. Victor On 22 Apr 2011, at 19:22, Paul Davis wrote: On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Paul Davis > wrote: On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Geoff Beasley wrote: On 04/22/2011 01:28 PM, gene

Re: [LAD] Max V. Mathews (1926-2011)

2011-04-22 Thread Folderol
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:22:31 -0400 Paul Davis wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Paul Davis > wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Geoff Beasley > > wrote: > >> On 04/22/2011 01:28 PM, gene heskett wrote: > >>> > >>> We all should all hold a moment of respectful silence, both >

Re: [LAD] Max V. Mathews (1926-2011)

2011-04-22 Thread Ralf
On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 14:22 -0400, Paul Davis wrote: > on re-reading this i want to stress that it was absolutely not my > intention to somehow try to tangle up ardour in mathew's legacy, or > enjoy the side-effects of his well deserved fame. Well, don't worry. I guess nobody has misconceived your

Re: [LAD] Max V. Mathews (1926-2011)

2011-04-22 Thread Paul Davis
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Paul Davis wrote: > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Geoff Beasley > wrote: >> On 04/22/2011 01:28 PM, gene heskett wrote: >>> >>> We all should all hold a moment of respectful silence, both >>> for the man, and the legacy of his work. > > and to add to some sens

Re: [LAD] Max V. Mathews (1926-2011)

2011-04-22 Thread Ralf
On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 23:28 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > We all should all hold a moment of respectful silence, both > for the man, and the legacy of his work. Yes :). 'Computer performance of music was born in 1957' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Mathews) So he really was one of the pioneer

Re: [LAD] Max V. Mathews (1926-2011)

2011-04-22 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Geoff Beasley wrote: > On 04/22/2011 01:28 PM, gene heskett wrote: >> >> We all should all hold a moment of respectful silence, both >> for the man, and the legacy of his work. and to add to some sense of his legacy: * if there was no max mathews, there would

Re: [LAD] Max V. Mathews (1926-2011)

2011-04-22 Thread Burkhard Wölfel
Am 22.04.2011 um 05:31 schrieb Geoff Beasley: On 04/22/2011 01:28 PM, gene heskett wrote: We all should all hold a moment of respectful silence, both for the man, and the legacy of his work. ahmen to that g - Burkhard. ___ Lin