[LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 convolution reverb 1.2.2 & 1.3.2

2012-07-02 Thread Tom Szilagyi
IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb http://factorial.hu/plugins/lv2/ir IR is a no-latency/low-latency, realtime, high performance signal convolver plugin especially for creating reverb effects. This is a much overdue maintenance release with two versions under the dual versioning scheme: 1.2.2 in the 1.2.

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-27 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 06:21:29AM -0500, Thomas Vecchione wrote: > Fons replied off list and we discussed his example some, The situations was > similar to what i had thought, where a 4 point edit was one possible way to > do it, but far from the only.solution, and probably wouldn't be what I > p

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-27 Thread Thomas Vecchione
Yes film and TV post is where I have heard of it being more useful, but since I just got up I will leave that for the moment until my brain is more awake;) Fons replied off list and we discussed his example some, The situations was similar to what i had thought, where a 4 point edit was one possib

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-27 Thread Andres Cabrera
Hi, This feature is actually also very useful in post production for film or TV, where often you get a video edit after you've started doing your mixing, and you have to move big blocks of tracks in time. I'd also like to know if there's a simple way to do this in ardour, or to add my vote for it

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-27 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 02/27/2011 01:05 AM, Thomas Vecchione wrote: Fons Being someone that tracks recordings live constantly, I am curious, if the singer only wanted to overdub one section of their vocals with another, and you are not touching the remainder of the recorded tracks, exactly what stops you from doing

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-26 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 04:18:30PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > I don't give a flip about convolution reverbs, LVL2 gtk vs qt, or > where I host a VST. -:) Strangely enough, this is not about any of these subjects :-) > I do however love a good piece of music. > Thanks for sharing. Verdi, Rigol

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > > A simple case: > > > > After this was edited (9 fragments from 4 takes), the singer wanted > to replace the part "del prigioniere misero conforta l'egra

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-26 Thread Thomas Vecchione
Fons Being someone that tracks recordings live constantly, I am curious, if the singer only wanted to overdub one section of their vocals with another, and you are not touching the remainder of the recorded tracks, exactly what stops you from doing a standard punch in/out in your example? Even if

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-26 Thread Renato
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:52:05 -0500 Paul Davis wrote: > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Fons Adriaensen > wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:39:04PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > > > >> the position that i take with N-point editing is not that there is > >> some other way to do "the following".

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-26 Thread Paul Davis
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:39:04PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > >> the position that i take with N-point editing is not that there is >> some other way to do "the following". There isn't. its that the way of >> approaching the task that lead

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-26 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:39:04PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > the position that i take with N-point editing is not that there is > some other way to do "the following". There isn't. its that the way of > approaching the task that leads to needing to do "the following" is > rooted in an older way o

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-25 Thread Joel Roth
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 02:02:09PM +0100, Jens M Andreasen wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 11:28 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > > > Also noticed 'ingen fara' -> no problem and 'ingen aning' -> no idea. > > > In a compound statement, yes > > And then You have the Scottish Gaelic "inghean" fro

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-25 Thread Paul Giblock
Clear your cookies and try again. Google must know you are involved in Linux Audio ;) On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:50 PM, David Robillard wrote: > >> It's also the company in Jurassic Park. One day I'll make it to #1 >> Google hit. One

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-25 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:50 PM, David Robillard wrote: > It's also the company in Jurassic Park. One day I'll make it to #1 > Google hit. One day! You already have :) Just try it. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ Linux-audio-dev

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-25 Thread David Robillard
On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 00:34 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 06:47:10PM -0500, David Robillard wrote: > > > On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 21:39 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:20:44AM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > [...] > > > > "This is an err

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-25 Thread Jens M Andreasen
On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 11:28 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > Also noticed 'ingen fara' -> no problem and 'ingen aning' -> no idea. > In a compound statement, yes And then You have the Scottish Gaelic "inghean" from Old Irish "ingen" meaning "daughter" which might be related to the Swedish/Norwe

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-25 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 01:42:46AM +0100, Jens M Andreasen wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 00:34 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > > > I learned that 'ingen' is Swedish for 'no, nobody, nothing' or > > similar... > > Nobody it is. Tack :-) Also noticed 'ingen fara' -> no problem and 'ingen an

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Jens M Andreasen
On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 00:34 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > I learned that 'ingen' is Swedish for 'no, nobody, nothing' or > similar... Nobody it is. -- Brand new stockings http://mx44.linux.dk/notturno/brand_new_stockings.mp3 ___ Linux-audio-dev

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 06:47:10PM -0500, David Robillard wrote: > On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 21:39 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:20:44AM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > [...] > > > "This is an error that any DSP student is allowed to make once". > > > > This is abs

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread David Robillard
On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 21:39 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:20:44AM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: [...] > > "This is an error that any DSP student is allowed to make once". > > This is absolutely true for the one I referred to. As absolutely true as when I say the

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 01:05:03AM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > "'True. After all those years none of the 'DSP experts' developing Jamin > has noticed anything wrong when listening to it (it's quite obvious > actually), let alone done a simple measurement that could have revealed > this pr

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/25/11, Fons Adriaensen wrote: >> You know, I find this kind of attitude quite dangerous. > > What attitude ? See below. >> JAMin developers not having clue, > > Didn't write that. *sigh* Really? "'True. After all those years none of the 'DSP experts' developing Jamin has noticed anything

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Nick Copeland
11 21:58:12 + > From: f...@linuxaudio.org > To: p...@linuxaudiosystems.com > CC: linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org > Subject: Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 04:12:58PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 04:12:58PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:39:04PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > > > >> the position that i take with N-point editing is not that there is > >> some other way to do "the followin

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:20:44AM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > You know, I find this kind of attitude quite dangerous. What attitude ? > JAMin developers not having clue, Didn't write that. > Ardour developers not having and clue About one very specfic issue. > "This is an error tha

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/24/11, Fons Adriaensen wrote: >> the position that i take with N-point editing is not that there is >> some other way to do "the following". There isn't. its that the way of >> approaching the task that leads to needing to do "the following" is >> rooted in an older way of thinking about the

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:39:04PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > >> the position that i take with N-point editing is not that there is >> some other way to do "the following". There isn't. its that the way of >> approaching the task that leads

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:39:04PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > the position that i take with N-point editing is not that there is > some other way to do "the following". There isn't. its that the way of > approaching the task that leads to needing to do "the following" is > rooted in an older way

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread drew Roberts
On Thursday 24 February 2011 12:09:19 David Robillard wrote: > This is, of course, a big problem in terms of our greater mission > to provide software that caters to the needs of precisely nobody while > irritating everybody else. > > To resolve this situation, we now have an exciting new Clippy in

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Michael Bechard
: Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Michael Bechard wrote: The amen break has no rights attached to it. It was a gift from the gods. Now >whether or not those gods love or hate us is another matter... > As far as I know the Winstons own the cop

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Harry Van Haaren
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Michael Bechard wrote: > The amen break has no rights attached to it. It was a gift from the gods. > Now > whether or not those gods love or hate us is another matter... > As far as I know the Winstons own the copyright (well... used to anyway, it might have expir

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Michael Bechard
: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb On Thursday 24 February 2011 18:09:19 David Robillard wrote: > To resolve this situation, we now have an exciting new Clippy inspired > assistant that hops around your screen begging you to add MIDI tracks > constantly. Will you call it ardouri

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Arnold Krille > You couldn't get the rights to use the amen-break for this? dude we don't use no breaks unless its "when the levee breaks", is that clear? problem is, jimmy and the boys in zep wouldn't clear the sample for us, so ... we're using a break from bar

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Arnold Krille
On Thursday 24 February 2011 18:09:19 David Robillard wrote: > To resolve this situation, we now have an exciting new Clippy inspired > assistant that hops around your screen begging you to add MIDI tracks > constantly. Will you call it ardourino? > If, after 20 minutes, you have still not create

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 02/24/2011 06:39 PM, Paul Davis wrote: well, panners in a3 are now plugins, of a fashion (they are a bit different from normal plugin APIs for a variety of reasons, primarily the fact that they never do in-place processing). its quite likely that at least the simplest of your ambi LADSPA plugi

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:17:17AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > >> what you don't know (because you're not on IRC) is the question of >> N-point editing comes up a lot. i (and others) have argued (in my >> opinion quite successfully) that fo

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread David Robillard
On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 13:08 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > On 02/24/2011 12:43 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > > > It's also foolish to suggest that the 'all inclusive universal > > DAW' will cater for those needs - just ignore what you don't > > use etc. It most definitely does *not* because it's by

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread David Robillard
On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 11:47 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 05:11:33PM -0500, David Robillard wrote: > > > Entirely Redland free. I hand-wrote a Turtle parser and serialiser. > > > > In short, it's been a PITA for everyone in numerous ways since day one. > > Congratulatio

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:17:17AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > what you don't know (because you're not on IRC) is the question of > N-point editing comes up a lot. i (and others) have argued (in my > opinion quite successfully) that four point editing is a relic of an > older workflow. others who h

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:28 AM, torbenh wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:17:17AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Fons Adriaensen >> wrote: >> > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 08:02:21AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: >> > Well, I could pay or I could offer my time as a deve

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread torbenh
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:17:17AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 08:02:21AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > > Well, I could pay or I could offer my time as a developer. During > > the last five years I have several times

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 08:02:21AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > >> i don't agree with you that its about a type of music. it is about the >> difference between some different ways of producing music, and not >> just two of them. there are ce

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 08:02:21AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > i don't agree with you that its about a type of music. it is about the > difference between some different ways of producing music, and not > just two of them. there are certainly approaches to making music that > are not well served by

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 04:07:41PM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > > > There's no doubt that many users or potential users want the > > 'all integrated' DAW combining audio, sequencing, invasive > > effects, etc. required to produce a

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/02/the-79-virtual-analog-console-now-on-both-mac-and-linux-harrison-mixbus/ > > "Coming from the rarified world of high-end audio systems, we > recognized a lot of the same qualities in Ardour. Some

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > There's no doubt that many users or potential users want the > 'all integrated' DAW combining audio, sequencing, invasive > effects, etc. required to produce a particular type of music > (and some other content, e.g. ads) that happens to ha

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 07:41:56PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > >> and to answer that question: what happened was huge great >> boatloads of data that need to be shovelled around between all the >> relevant components, complicated synchroniza

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 02/24/2011 12:47 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 05:11:33PM -0500, David Robillard wrote: Entirely Redland free. I hand-wrote a Turtle parser and serialiser. In short, it's been a PITA for everyone in numerous ways since day one. Congratulations. I mean it. seconded.

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 02/24/2011 12:43 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: Spending some money on Protools is not really different to doing the same for a kilometer of microphone cable or some XLR plugs. imnsho, this simile only holds if you intend to hang yourself with the microphone cable. __

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
>> And for a professional user that is irrelevant. >> Spending some money on Protools is not really different to doing >> the same for a kilometer of microphone cable or some XLR plugs. > > You pay license fees for cables and plugs and you would never alter them > in any way? Again that differe

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 02/24/2011 12:43 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: It's also foolish to suggest that the 'all inclusive universal DAW' will cater for those needs - just ignore what you don't use etc. It most definitely does *not* because it's by no means as universal as you may think, but rather the reflection of o

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 05:11:33PM -0500, David Robillard wrote: > Entirely Redland free. I hand-wrote a Turtle parser and serialiser. > > In short, it's been a PITA for everyone in numerous ways since day one. Congratulations. I mean it. This is probably the best move in the entire history of L

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 07:41:56PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > and to answer that question: what happened was huge great > boatloads of data that need to be shovelled around between all the > relevant components, complicated synchronization in both the backend > models and the user interfaces of al

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/24/11, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: > It's a DAW. It shouldn't have *any* MIDI beyond control automation and > some idea of sync. Leave that to a sequencer. I think I know your next argument: we don't need virtual instruments as plug-ins, eh? And while at that, let's dump lash/ladish crap alto

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Paul Davis wrote: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: > >> What happened to the idea of doing one thing, and doing it well? oh, and to answer that question: what happened was huge great boatloads of data that need to be shovelled around bet

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: > What happened to the idea of doing one thing, and doing it well?  I'm > not even totally sold on the idea of having the recorder and mixer in > the same app... you probably want ayyi then. except ... oh well. > To that end, why has no-o

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 19:11 -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: > > > There is no way in hell I'm going near the utterly fundamentally > > retarded mess of shit and fail that is Ardour 3. > > gordon, we love you too. honest. Oh, that reminds me, i

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread David Robillard
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 22:58 +, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: > On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 19:55 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > > For how many years did we have to use Rosegarden/MusE and Ardour *and* > > Hydrogen simultaneously just to get *basic* DAW functionality only > > because everyone went

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: > There is no way in hell I'm going near the utterly fundamentally > retarded mess of shit and fail that is Ardour 3. gordon, we love you too. honest. > It's a DAW.  It shouldn't have *any* MIDI beyond control automation and > some idea o

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 19:55 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > For how many years did we have to use Rosegarden/MusE and Ardour *and* > Hydrogen simultaneously just to get *basic* DAW functionality only > because everyone went on saying things like "Oh, this is UNIX > philosophy -- do one thing

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread David Robillard
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 20:21 +, Chris Cannam wrote: > On 9 February 2011 16:49, David Robillard wrote: > > new librdf-free slv2 > > Entirely Redland-free, or still using Raptor? Entirely Redland free. I hand-wrote a Turtle parser and serialiser. > And: why? In short, it's been a PITA for ev

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Chris Cannam
On 9 February 2011 16:49, David Robillard wrote: > new librdf-free slv2 Entirely Redland-free, or still using Raptor? And: why? Chris ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-aud

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread David Robillard
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 11:03 +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: > On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:57:25 +0100, torbenh wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 09:03:03AM +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: > >> On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:58:56 -0500, David Robillard > >> wrote: > >> >On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 12:33 +0900, michael

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/23/11, Fons Adriaensen wrote: >> Do you close your eyes and >> pretend not to hear anything when you keep seing new cloud computing >> services popping up with a workiing business model behind them, >> because they contradict your view of a perfect world to live in? > > When I seen somehting

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread David Robillard
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 13:20 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On 2/22/11, David Robillard wrote: > > > I have a working plugin (called "dirg") that provides a UI by hosting a > > web server which you access in the browser. It provides a grid UI either > > via a Novation Launchpad, or in the bro

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread David Robillard
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 09:03 +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: > On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:58:56 -0500, David Robillard > wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 12:33 +0900, michael noble wrote: > >> > >> Speaking of existing work, I vaguely recall mention of a > >> plugin with a Qt GUI? Where

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 04:43:50PM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > Do you close your eyes and > pretend not to hear anything when you keep seing new cloud computing > services popping up with a workiing business model behind them, > because they contradict your view of a perfect world to live

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/23/11, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: >> I'm thinking mostly about blind users when I talk about accessibility, >> and I'm not sure how usable graphical browsers are for the blind. > > Again, it's up to web developers how much efforts they put into making > their apps accessible. Oh, and speaki

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/23/11, Philipp Überbacher wrote: >> > Example number one is the CUPS web interface, accessible using the >> > obvious address http://localhost:631. First of all it gives me the >> > creeps every time I have to use it, because I have to use the browser to >> > modify my system. >> >> So proble

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Folderol
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:39:49 + Fons Adriaensen wrote: > Or elementary security awareness. If exposing the old and deprecated > non-ssh based X11 interface is a bad idea (there's no discussion about > that probably), then storing your data unprotected on a third party > system certainly is. An

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread torbenh
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:03:52AM +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: > On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:57:25 +0100, torbenh wrote: > >On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 09:03:03AM +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: > >>On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:58:56 -0500, David Robillard > >>wrote: > >>>On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 12:33 +0900, mich

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Rui Nuno Capela
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:57:25 +0100, torbenh wrote: On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 09:03:03AM +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:58:56 -0500, David Robillard wrote: >On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 12:33 +0900, michael noble wrote: >> >>Speaking of existing work, I vaguely recall menti

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Alexandre Prokoudine's message of 2011-02-23 10:52:44 +0100: > On 2/23/11, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > > > Again I disagree, in my opinion web UIs have exactly one benefit and > > many drawbacks. The benefit is that they can be accessed from anywhere > > with an internet connection

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:52:44PM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On 2/23/11, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > > > Example number one is the CUPS web interface, accessible using the > > obvious address http://localhost:631. First of all it gives me the > > creeps every time I have to use it, be

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/22/11, David Robillard wrote: > I have a working plugin (called "dirg") that provides a UI by hosting a > web server which you access in the browser. It provides a grid UI either > via a Novation Launchpad, or in the browser if you don't have a > Launchpad. Web UIs definitely have a ton of wi

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread torbenh
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 09:03:03AM +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: > On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:58:56 -0500, David Robillard > wrote: > >On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 12:33 +0900, michael noble wrote: > >> > >>Speaking of existing work, I vaguely recall mention of a > >>plugin with a Qt GUI? Whe

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/23/11, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > Again I disagree, in my opinion web UIs have exactly one benefit and > many drawbacks. The benefit is that they can be accessed from anywhere > with an internet connection and sufficiently capable browser (which is > pretty much everywhere these days) witho

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Rui Nuno Capela
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:58:56 -0500, David Robillard wrote: On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 12:33 +0900, michael noble wrote: Speaking of existing work, I vaguely recall mention of a plugin with a Qt GUI? Where is this, I need one for testing... Take a look at latest svn of CLAM Netwo

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread David Robillard
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 12:33 +0900, michael noble wrote: > > Speaking of existing work, I vaguely recall mention of a > plugin with a > Qt GUI? Where is this, I need one for testing... > > > Take a look at latest svn of CLAM Network Editor. It is apparently > able

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread michael noble
> Speaking of existing work, I vaguely recall mention of a plugin with a > Qt GUI? Where is this, I need one for testing... > > Take a look at latest svn of CLAM Network Editor. It is apparently able to export networks as LV2 with a Qt GUI. See http://clam-project.org/wiki/Development_screenshots

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread David Cornette
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 01:45:35PM +0100, Nick Copeland wrote: > > > ATM it doesn't even provide network transparency. Which means you can't > > even do the equivalent of ssh -X. > > Does anybody even use this feature anymore? > Are you kidding? All the time. _

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Paul Giblock
Yeah, I was thinking the something regarding gtk. Too late to change it though. I suppose the next one will just be versioned. And you are right. Nobody cares about 3 anymore, except for backwards compatibility. There is no reason to pull that into the UI spec, though, as there are no Qt3 lv2 plug

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Tuesday, February 22, 2011 07:20:35 pm David Robillard wrote: > OK, thanks. Does anyone care about 3 any more? No. Qt3 reached EOL a couple years ago, and even the Qt3Support library in Qt4 is (unofficially) deprecated. -gabriel ___ Linux-audio-de

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread David Robillard
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 17:22 -0500, Paul Giblock wrote: > Dave, > > I do some work in Qt. Primarily helping to port Lmms to Qt4. I am now > working on a successor. This host is in Qt4 and uses lv2 as the > primary plugin api. I desire embedded plugins, so this topic is close > to my heart. > > An

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from David Robillard's message of 2011-02-22 21:28:03 +0100: > On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 19:50 +0100, Stefano D'Angelo wrote: > > 2011/2/22 David Robillard : > > > On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 04:52 +, Jeremy Salwen wrote: > > > [...] > > >> Hi David, > > >> > > >> > > >> As a plugin developer, I

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Paul Giblock
Dave, I do some work in Qt. Primarily helping to port Lmms to Qt4. I am now working on a successor. This host is in Qt4 and uses lv2 as the primary plugin api. I desire embedded plugins, so this topic is close to my heart. Anyways, I would name the URI after Qt4 instead of simply Qt. Qt breaks s

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 02/22/2011 01:45 PM, Nick Copeland wrote: > ATM it doesn't even provide network transparency. Which means you can't > even do the equivalent of ssh -X. Does anybody even use this feature anymore? fwiw, 50% of my audio work happens on a laptop that i use to ssh into my audio workstation.

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Paul Davis's message of 2011-02-22 17:57:44 +0100: > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Philipp Überbacher > wrote: > > I'm not sure it helps to talk about wayland, it seems to be very much > > future music. It seems ubuntu and fedora talk about a year or so, but > > after reading up

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread David Robillard
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 13:55 -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Stefano D'Angelo > wrote: > > > I didn't follow the whole discussion, but I just want to toss out one > > not-so-stupid-as-it-may-seem possibility: HTML + CSS + JS. Take a look > > at YUI. > > I wrote an XML

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread David Robillard
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 19:50 +0100, Stefano D'Angelo wrote: > 2011/2/22 David Robillard : > > On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 04:52 +, Jeremy Salwen wrote: > > [...] > >> Hi David, > >> > >> > >> As a plugin developer, I'm very much looking forward to this, > >> especially since I proposed something simil

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread David Robillard
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 18:32 +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: > On 02/22/2011 05:38 PM, David Robillard wrote: > > > > Speaking of existing work, I vaguely recall mention of a plugin with a > > Qt GUI? Where is this, I need one for testing... > > > > afaict, there's none > > i recall there are only

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Stefano D'Angelo wrote: > I didn't follow the whole discussion, but I just want to toss out one > not-so-stupid-as-it-may-seem possibility: HTML + CSS + JS. Take a look > at YUI. I wrote an XML schema for plugin GUIs, oh, about 8 years ago. Plugin developers who

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Philipp Überbacher wrote: I'm not sure it helps to talk about wayland, it seems to be very much future music. It seems ubuntu and fedora talk about a year or so, but after reading up about its current state (three years of development so No, it's very much going to happe

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Stefano D'Angelo
2011/2/22 David Robillard : > On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 04:52 +, Jeremy Salwen wrote: > [...] >> Hi David, >> >> >> As a plugin developer, I'm very much looking forward to this, >> especially since I proposed something similar to this a bit ago >> (http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/linux-audio-

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Rui Nuno Capela
On 02/22/2011 05:38 PM, David Robillard wrote: > > Speaking of existing work, I vaguely recall mention of a plugin with a > Qt GUI? Where is this, I need one for testing... > afaict, there's none i recall there are only two lv2 ui (sub)extensions in use, to my knowledge of course, and you proba

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread David Robillard
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 04:52 +, Jeremy Salwen wrote: [...] > Hi David, > > > As a plugin developer, I'm very much looking forward to this, > especially since I proposed something similar to this a bit ago > (http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org/14098999.ht

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread David Robillard
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 12:43 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 09:26:09PM -0500, David Robillard wrote: > > > It is obviously not useful to have hundreds of plugin UI windows open at > > once anyway. > > Unless they are embedded instead of being separate top level windows. >

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread David Robillard
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 09:43 +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: > On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 21:55:04 -0500, David Robillard [...] > You seem to want to argue "against" me, but there's no > > mention > > of my proposed solution at all here... unless new information comes > > up, > > I'll take that as a sig

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Sean Bolton
On Feb 22, 2011, at 4:45 AM, Nick Copeland wrote: > ATM it doesn't even provide network transparency. Which means you can't > even do the equivalent of ssh -X. Does anybody even use this feature anymore? Of course. I very rarely even turn on the monitor of my linux box. Usually I'm using

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Philipp Überbacher wrote: > I'm not sure it helps to talk about wayland, it seems to be very much > future music. It seems ubuntu and fedora talk about a year or so, but > after reading up about its current state (three years of development so > far, pretty much p

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