Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-10-03 Thread fons
On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 09:36:53AM +0200, Jens M Andreasen wrote: Another example: Play two sinewaves, 1 Hz apart. Every second they will cancel out each other completely - even if they undeniably are both present. Yes, but this is nothing special. The two cancel at exactly one point in each

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-10-02 Thread Renato
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 03:25:50 +0200 Robin Gareus ro...@gareus.org wrote: On Oct 1, 2010, at 2:32 AM, Camilo Polymeris wrote: The original Fourier Transform as invented by the smart French guy of the same name does operate on continuous (as opposed to sampled) data from -inf to +inf.

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-10-01 Thread Jens M Andreasen
On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 23:16 +0200, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: ... Now take a window of say half a second. If it includes a pulse you get more or less the same spectrum again. If it doesn't, you get nothing... even if the frequencies should be there :-) You are now (heading towards)

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-10-01 Thread Folderol
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 09:51:29 +1000 Erik de Castro Lopo mle...@mega-nerd.com wrote: Folderol wrote: Also, he must be getting on a bit now ... at least in his thirties :P Ageism lives I see. I'm in my mid 40s and I still have a passion for coding. I don't do as much audio coding as I

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-10-01 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, October 01, 2010 04:05:37 pm Folderol did opine: On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 09:51:29 +1000 Erik de Castro Lopo mle...@mega-nerd.com wrote: Folderol wrote: Also, he must be getting on a bit now ... at least in his thirties :P Ageism lives I see. I'm in my mid 40s and I

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-10-01 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from gene heskett's message of 2010-10-01 22:07:28 +0200: On Friday, October 01, 2010 04:05:37 pm Folderol did opine: On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 09:51:29 +1000 Erik de Castro Lopo mle...@mega-nerd.com wrote: Folderol wrote: Also, he must be getting on a bit now ... at least in

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-10-01 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, October 01, 2010 05:12:54 pm Philipp Überbacher did opine: Excerpts from gene heskett's message of 2010-10-01 22:07:28 +0200: On Friday, October 01, 2010 04:05:37 pm Folderol did opine: On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 09:51:29 +1000 Erik de Castro Lopo mle...@mega-nerd.com wrote:

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-10-01 Thread Ray Rashif
On 2 October 2010 05:03, Philipp Überbacher hollun...@lavabit.com wrote: I'm 26 now, and I think it's really great that people like you, 50 years older and almost the age of my grandfather, take part in all of this stuff. Everyone has his share of experience, and I believe every generation can

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-10-01 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Folderol wrote: On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 09:51:29 +1000 Erik de Castro Lopo mle...@mega-nerd.com wrote: Folderol wrote: Also, he must be getting on a bit now ... at least in his thirties :P Ageism lives I see. I'm in my mid 40s and I still have a passion for coding. I don't do

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-10-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 17:17 -0400, gene heskett wrote: On Friday, October 01, 2010 05:12:54 pm Philipp Überbacher did opine: Excerpts from gene heskett's message of 2010-10-01 22:07:28 +0200: On Friday, October 01, 2010 04:05:37 pm Folderol did opine: On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 09:51:29 +1000

[LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Louigi Verona
Hey guys! I have two questions. 1. How does Sound Stretch work? It is incredible the way it can produce a tone which has no noticeable vibrations, just a wall of sound. How is that accomplished, in layman terms if possible :) 2. Can this program be jackified and is that a lot of work? --

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On Thu, September 30, 2010 12:01 am, Louigi Verona wrote: Hey guys! I have two questions. 1. How does Sound Stretch work? It is incredible the way it can produce a tone which has no noticeable vibrations, just a wall of sound. How is that accomplished, in layman terms if possible :) It

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Chris Cannam
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Louigi Verona louigi.ver...@gmail.com wrote: 1. How does Sound Stretch work? My (vague) recollection is that it is a phase vocoder in which the phases are randomised. Chris ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Robin Gareus
On 09/30/10 09:40, Patrick Shirkey wrote: On Thu, September 30, 2010 12:01 am, Louigi Verona wrote: Hey guys! I have two questions. 1. How does Sound Stretch work? It is incredible the way it can produce a tone which has no noticeable vibrations, just a wall of sound. How is that

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Dave Phillips
Robin Gareus wrote: In layman terms: There's a smart French guy by the name of Joseph F. sitting inside it: If you play him some audio: He thinks: Hey, this is actually just a few simple sine-waves added together (superpositioned), he quickly calculates their frequencies and amplitudes and

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Louigi Verona
Thanks for all the info guys, I will read about FFT and all that. I hope it will answer my wonders as to why there is no vibration in sound. As for JACK support would anyone be interested in adding it, if it is trivial? Would love to have it in my audio chain. As for real time stretching,

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Robin Gareus
On 09/30/10 13:15, Dave Phillips wrote: Robin Gareus wrote: In layman terms: There's a smart French guy by the name of Joseph F. sitting inside it: If you play him some audio: He thinks: Hey, this is actually just a few simple sine-waves added together (superpositioned), he quickly

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread torbenh
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 07:15:32AM -0400, Dave Phillips wrote: Robin Gareus wrote: In layman terms: There's a smart French guy by the name of Joseph F. sitting inside it: If you play him some audio: He thinks: Hey, this is actually just a few simple sine-waves added together

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread fons
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 01:53:44PM +0200, Robin Gareus wrote: Q: Can anyone explain the FFT in simple terms ? A. No. LOL. basically, Fourier proved that any signal can be represented a sum of sine-waves. (well, that's not entirely true: it needs to be a periodic signal, but the

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On Thu, September 30, 2010 3:47 am, Robin Gareus wrote: On 09/30/10 09:40, Patrick Shirkey wrote: On Thu, September 30, 2010 12:01 am, Louigi Verona wrote: Hey guys! I have two questions. 1. How does Sound Stretch work? It is incredible the way it can produce a tone which has no

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Robin Gareus
On 09/30/10 13:35, Louigi Verona wrote: As for JACK support would anyone be interested in adding it, if it is trivial? Would love to have it in my audio chain. At second glance: it's not going to be that easy. The built-in player makes use of mutex-locks which would need to be replaced with

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from fons's message of 2010-09-30 14:29:01 +0200: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 01:53:44PM +0200, Robin Gareus wrote: Q: Can anyone explain the FFT in simple terms ? A. No. LOL. basically, Fourier proved that any signal can be represented a sum of sine-waves. (well,

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Louigi Verona's message of 2010-09-30 09:01:24 +0200: Hey guys! I have two questions. 1. How does Sound Stretch work? It is incredible the way it can produce a tone which has no noticeable vibrations, just a wall of sound. How is that accomplished, in layman terms if

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Louigi Verona
How the heck did you get it to build? It's been how many years since the last release? Ha! This is a nice question. Guys at irc channel #ladi helped me, namely falkTX and nedko. The problem was in some include file which I had to comment out in the source and that's all. I think it is nice in

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Robin Gareus
On 09/30/10 20:52, Philipp Überbacher wrote: Excerpts from Louigi Verona's message of 2010-09-30 09:01:24 +0200: Hey guys! I have two questions. 1. How does Sound Stretch work? It is incredible the way it can produce a tone which has no noticeable vibrations, just a wall of sound. How is

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Robin Gareus
On 09/30/10 20:49, Philipp Überbacher wrote: Excerpts from fons's message of 2010-09-30 14:29:01 +0200: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 01:53:44PM +0200, Robin Gareus wrote: Q: Can anyone explain the FFT in simple terms ? A. No. LOL. basically, Fourier proved that any signal can be represented a

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Robin Gareus's message of 2010-09-30 21:21:49 +0200: On 09/30/10 20:52, Philipp Überbacher wrote: Excerpts from Louigi Verona's message of 2010-09-30 09:01:24 +0200: Hey guys! I have two questions. 1. How does Sound Stretch work? It is incredible the way it can produce a

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Louigi Verona's message of 2010-09-30 20:56:31 +0200: How the heck did you get it to build? It's been how many years since the last release? Ha! This is a nice question. Guys at irc channel #ladi helped me, namely falkTX and nedko. The problem was in some include file

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Robin Gareus's message of 2010-09-30 16:21:27 +0200: On 09/30/10 13:35, Louigi Verona wrote: As for JACK support would anyone be interested in adding it, if it is trivial? Would love to have it in my audio chain. At second glance: it's not going to be that easy. The

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread fons
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 09:23:08PM +0200, Robin Gareus wrote: Back when I was introduced to FT in some Physics lecture I was happy that I was able to use it and completely forgot to check the history :) Probably related to why I favored experimental Physics over Theory. If you're still living

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Folderol
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:41:33 +0200 Philipp Überbacher hollun...@lavabit.com wrote: Excerpts from Robin Gareus's message of 2010-09-30 16:21:27 +0200: On 09/30/10 13:35, Louigi Verona wrote: As for JACK support would anyone be interested in adding it, if it is trivial? Would love to

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Arnold Krille
On Thursday 30 September 2010 23:16:32 f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 09:23:08PM +0200, Robin Gareus wrote: Back when I was introduced to FT in some Physics lecture I was happy that I was able to use it and completely forgot to check the history :) Probably related to

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Robin Gareus
On 09/30/10 22:41, Philipp Überbacher wrote: Excerpts from Robin Gareus's message of 2010-09-30 16:21:27 +0200: On 09/30/10 13:35, Louigi Verona wrote: As for JACK support would anyone be interested in adding it, if it is trivial? Would love to have it in my audio chain. At second

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Folderol wrote: Also, he must be getting on a bit now ... at least in his thirties :P Ageism lives I see. I'm in my mid 40s and I still have a passion for coding. I don't do as much audio coding as I used to but I am a significant contributor to the DDC compiler:

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Camilo Polymeris
The original Fourier Transform as invented by the smart French guy of the same name does operate on continuous (as opposed to sampled) data from -inf to +inf. I understand Fourier invented the Fourier Series only, anyone knows who generalized it to FT? And yes, I think the FT isn't so hard to

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Robin Gareus
On Sep 30, 2010, at 11:16 PM, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 09:23:08PM +0200, Robin Gareus wrote: Back when I was introduced to FT in some Physics lecture I was happy that I was able to use it and completely forgot to check the history :) Probably related to why I

Re: [LAD] Paul's Extreme Sound Stretch

2010-09-30 Thread Robin Gareus
On Oct 1, 2010, at 2:32 AM, Camilo Polymeris wrote: The original Fourier Transform as invented by the smart French guy of the same name does operate on continuous (as opposed to sampled) data from -inf to +inf. I understand Fourier invented the Fourier Series only, anyone knows who