Re: [LAD] JACK MIDI

2008-01-20 Thread Jay Vaughan
for example, if one needed a higher resolution for a note-on events velocity, the event could be followed by a sysex data with one or two additional 7-bit values. (kind like it's already done with MSB and LSB for some controller values) one word: NRPN. thats what its there for. ; --

Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?)

2008-01-20 Thread Jay Vaughan
Basically we got swindled. ALSA has not been the utopia that it was claimed to be. ALSA sucks. It's not even documented. pulseaudio + midishare == nirvana. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org

Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?)

2008-01-20 Thread victor
Does this mean that pulseaudio is preferred to Jack? Victor - Original Message - From: Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?) Basically we got

Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?)

2008-01-20 Thread Jay Vaughan
On Jan 20, 2008, at 11:11 AM, victor wrote: Does this mean that pulseaudio is preferred to Jack? I currently perfer it, but I'm writing totally new software (for OpenMoko), not trying to use existing software. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___

Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?)

2008-01-20 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
victor wrote: Does this mean that pulseaudio is preferred to Jack? For desktop and user applications yes, for professional audio no. Erik -- - Erik de Castro Lopo -

Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?)

2008-01-20 Thread Jay Vaughan
Does this mean that pulseaudio is preferred to Jack? For desktop and user applications yes, for professional audio no. There should be no distinction. The fact that there is, means that the designs are broken. Audio should just plain work - period. ; -- Jay Vaughan

Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?)

2008-01-20 Thread Jay Vaughan
Hmm. That equation don't hunt here. The MidiShare codebase is in dire need of attention for 32-bit Linux and won't currently compile at all for 64-bits. Ask me, I've been wrestling with its outdated source tree for the past week or so. Yann is planning to fix it, but he's got other

Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?)

2008-01-20 Thread Dave Phillips
Jay Vaughan wrote: Hmm. That equation don't hunt here. The MidiShare codebase is in dire need of attention for 32-bit Linux and won't currently compile at all for 64-bits. Ask me, I've been wrestling with its outdated source tree for the past week or so. Yann is planning to fix it, but he's

Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?)

2008-01-20 Thread Joseph M. Gaffney
Arnold Krille wrote: Am Sonntag, 20. Januar 2008 schrieb Erik de Castro Lopo: victor wrote: Does this mean that pulseaudio is preferred to Jack? For desktop and user applications yes, for professional audio no. If you want to repeat the mistakes of KDE[23] and aRts,

Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?)

2008-01-20 Thread Albert Graef
Dave Phillips wrote: You can look at Albert's patches to see what he fixed that enabled a clean compile. Well, besides the lack of 64 bit support, what makes Midishare so hard to compile and install on Linux right now, is mostly related to getting the Midishare kernel module to work on

Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?)

2008-01-20 Thread Dave Phillips
Albert Graef wrote: Dave, I can't help you right now with getting Midishare to work on 64 bit system, but if you're willing to run it on 32 bit I'll try to help you getting it compiled. Just drop me an email. Thank you, Albert, I did compile it with your patches. :) It's working fine with

Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?)

2008-01-20 Thread Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
On Sun, 2008-01-20 at 21:20 +0100, Albert Graef wrote: Dave Phillips wrote: You can look at Albert's patches to see what he fixed that enabled a clean compile. Well, besides the lack of 64 bit support, what makes Midishare so hard to compile and install on Linux right now, is mostly

Re: [LAD] alsa and OSS (again?)

2008-01-20 Thread Albert Graef
Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: Or, if from the get go it would have been included in the mainline kernel source (after submitting it to the proper channels, etc, etc - difficult but not impossible. Out of mainline kernel drivers have always been a pain...). True, but (1) as you mentioned, the