Re: unlink directory with files (rm -d)

2011-08-14 Thread Sergei Trofimovich
 I wonder if it would be possible to implement instant unlinking
 directory with files in it. Since btrfs is based on b trees it could
 be possible. Filesystem would have to loose all information on
 directory and object in it, and allow overwriting this information.
 This would be great feature, because everyone knows that recursive
 deleting large directories, with milions of files require huge io
 traffic.

I think you'll have to read directory contents anyway in order not
to break permission/vfs-mountpoint/attributes violation.

Consider the following example:

# it's me
$ id
uid=1000(slyfox) gid=100(users)

# fun layout
$ ls -ld test test/root_o test/root_o/root_o 
drwxr-xr-x 3 slyfox users 60 Aug 14 10:56 test
drwxr-xr-x 2 root   root  60 Aug 14 10:56 test/root_o
-rw-r--r-- 1 root   root   0 Aug 14 10:56 test/root_o/root_o

$ rm -rf test/
rm: cannot remove `test/root_o/root_o': Permission denied

We can't delete it because of foreigner in our dir.

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btrfs: failed to read chunk root

2011-08-14 Thread Espen Trydal
Hello,

trying out btrfs on my linux installation. I am running Funtoo with
Linux 3.0 kernel. After a reboot kernel panicked (no access to error
log since it is my root volume that failed). I get this using a rescue
cd (2.6.38, btrfs v 0.19) and then trying to mount :

[  752.129118] btrfs bad tree block start 0 131072
[  752.129152] btrfs: failed to read chunk root on sda5
[  752.132190] btrfs: open_ctree failed
[ 1132.984600] device label deux devid 1 transid 86 /dev/sdb3
[ 1171.796682] device fsid 9d42de57e2bebde7-4824b05acb3c538d devid 1
transid 346 /dev/sda5

Trying btrfsck:
btrfsck: disk-io.c:721: open_ctree_fd: Assertion `!(!chunk_root-node)' failed.

It had worked alright during the last couple of reboots. Before
rebooting I created a new btrfs volume which I am able to mount
without problems in rescue mode.

Thanks for any help,
Espen
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Re: corrupted btrfs volume: parent transid verify failed

2011-08-14 Thread Yalonda Gishtaka
Halp!  I was recently forced to power cycle my desktop PC, and upon
restart, the btrfs /home volume would no longer mount, citing the
error BUG: scheduling while atomic: mount /5584/0x2.  I
retrieved the latest btrfs-progs git repositories from
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mason/btrfs-progs-unstable.git
and http://git.darksatanic.net/repo/btrfs-progs-unstable.git -b
integration-20110805, but when running sudo ./btrfsck -s 1
/dev/mapper/home from either repo builds, I receive the error parent
transid verify failed on 647363842048 wanted 210333 found 210302
(repeated 3x).  I've also tried the flags -s 0, -s 1, and -s 2, all
with the same results.

I take care to complete a full dd copy of my disk every 2 weeks, but
my previous backup is nearly 2 weeks old and I've put in almost 2
weeks of effort on my masters thesis since then.  I'm quite desperate
to recover this volume.  Any help is appreciated, as I've exhausted
the existing suggestions from the mailing list posts to date.  I've
tried to ask in #btrfs, but suspect that they're all sleepy bearded
people :(

Regards,
-Yalonda
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Re: corrupted btrfs volume: parent transid verify failed

2011-08-14 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Yalonda Gishtaka
yalonda.gisht...@gmail.com wrote:
 Halp!  I was recently forced to power cycle my desktop PC, and upon
 restart, the btrfs /home volume would no longer mount, citing the
 error BUG: scheduling while atomic: mount /5584/0x2.  I
 retrieved the latest btrfs-progs git repositories from
 git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mason/btrfs-progs-unstable.git
 and http://git.darksatanic.net/repo/btrfs-progs-unstable.git -b
 integration-20110805, but when running sudo ./btrfsck -s 1
 /dev/mapper/home from either repo builds, I receive the error parent
 transid verify failed on 647363842048 wanted 210333 found 210302
 (repeated 3x).  I've also tried the flags -s 0, -s 1, and -s 2, all
 with the same results.

Is there something in the log about replaying log? If yes, try btrfs-zero-log
https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Problem_FAQ

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Re: corrupted btrfs volume: parent transid verify failed

2011-08-14 Thread Yalonda Gishtaka
Fajar,

Thank you for the suggestion.  Unfortunately, running sudo
./btrfs-zero-log /dev/mapper/home results in the same parent transid
verify failed on 647363842048 wanted 210333 found 210302 errors,
repeated 3 times.

I am running Arch Linux with the latest 3.0.1 kernel on a x86_64 machine.

Regards,
-Yalonda

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Fajar A. Nugraha l...@fajar.net wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Yalonda Gishtaka
 yalonda.gisht...@gmail.com wrote:
 Halp!  I was recently forced to power cycle my desktop PC, and upon
 restart, the btrfs /home volume would no longer mount, citing the
 error BUG: scheduling while atomic: mount /5584/0x2.  I
 retrieved the latest btrfs-progs git repositories from
 git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mason/btrfs-progs-unstable.git
 and http://git.darksatanic.net/repo/btrfs-progs-unstable.git -b
 integration-20110805, but when running sudo ./btrfsck -s 1
 /dev/mapper/home from either repo builds, I receive the error parent
 transid verify failed on 647363842048 wanted 210333 found 210302
 (repeated 3x).  I've also tried the flags -s 0, -s 1, and -s 2, all
 with the same results.

 Is there something in the log about replaying log? If yes, try btrfs-zero-log
 https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Problem_FAQ

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Re: corrupted btrfs volume: parent transid verify failed

2011-08-14 Thread Yalonda Gishtaka
Soon seems a bit subjective given that the devs have been touting
this since the beginning of time.

/Helpful/ advice would be nice.

This blog posting
(http://stujordan.wordpress.com/2011/06/20/churning-the-butter/)
sounded promising, but none of the superblock copies on my btrfs
volume are ok, as I keep receiving the same parent transid verify
failed messages.  Will be released btrfsck tool handle this case?

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote:
 On 08/14/2011 04:13 PM, Yalonda Gishtaka wrote:

 I'm quite desperate
 to recover this volume.

 You should have had backups.

 Btrfs has no file system repair tool, but it is supposed to be out soon
 (tm). You will have to wait.

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Re: corrupted btrfs volume: parent transid verify failed

2011-08-14 Thread Yalonda Gishtaka
Telling someone (that has a ~2 week stale backup) that they should
have kept backups is hardly constructive.  We're all aware there's no
official btrfs repair tool.  But it appears there has been been some
hard, dedicated work towards this that has resulted in many commits
and patches.  I'm here to find out what there is to know about recent
developments that may help my current situation.  Please consider
offering helpful advice instead of pointing out the obvious about my
backup schedule.

Cheers,
-Yalonda

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:51 AM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote:
 On 08/14/2011 06:32 PM, Yalonda Gishtaka wrote:

 /Helpful/  advice would be nice.

 Being hostile will net you zero advice.

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licenses (for apple OSX and others)?

2011-08-14 Thread ivo welch
curiosity question---could btrfs be licensed in multiple ways to allow
Apple and other vendors to adopt it?  as end users, having one good
file system that works everywhere as a main root system would be
heaven...
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RE: licenses (for apple OSX and others)?

2011-08-14 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
 From: linux-btrfs-ow...@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-btrfs-
 ow...@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of ivo welch
 
 curiosity question---could btrfs be licensed in multiple ways to allow
 Apple and other vendors to adopt it?  

No.  The source code is copyrighted by many different entities, and the only
way to release it under any other license would require all of the
contributors to mutually agree.  It'll never happen.  Likewise, perhaps
Apple could release their code under a license that's compatible with GPL,
but I seriously doubt that would ever happen.


 as end users, having one good
 file system that works everywhere as a main root system would be
 heaven...

Agreed.  But the various producers of filesystems are generally commercial
entities interested in making a profit.  For various reasons, many of them
intentionally don't go this direction.  They're all trying to differentiate
themselves.

Generally speaking, the problem is the requirement to integrate some other
FS into a kernel or other component that requires license compatibility for
booting.  Generally speaking you can circumvent this problem by using things
like Fuse to mount a filesystem in user space, thus not requiring it to be
built into the kernel, thus eliminating any license compatibility problems.

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Re: licenses (for apple OSX and others)?

2011-08-14 Thread ivo welch
thx, ed.

this is a case where I am wondering whether EVERYONE, including all
the commercial contributors to btrfs, would be better off with another
additional license that also allowed kernel integration for companies
like Apple.   the decision-making (and rights) for btrfs are so
dispersed, however, that we may all end up with a worse outcome,
including the commercial and other contributors.  (perhaps, it would
be worth asking them, if a mailing list of contributors to btrfs
existed.)

I am and I am not a fan of Apple.  they scare me.  I am afraid that
Apple will be much worse than IBM and Microsoft ever were.  I would
rather not see them get more than 20% market share.  still, the world
is what it is.

now, specifically, which contributors to btrfs would it hurt if Apple
were allowed to integrate the code into its kernel to make btrfs its
main file system?

I can only think of Microsoft as a company that might be hurt.  FAT is
the universal file system now, and it could lose that status.
Microsoft may not have wanted to contribute to btrfs in this case to
begin with.  did they ever contribute here?

I cannot imagine that any server company, like Sun, Oracle, or IBM,
would be worse off if OSX and linux would both use btrfs.  it would
probably make their life a whole lot easier.

linux on the desktop would be MUCH better off compared to the current
situation with everyone using their own almost-compatible file system,
and more so than OSX on the desktop would be better off.  (linux on
the server would probably be mildly better off, but here one can argue
that Apple would get more than it contributes.)  besides, the btrfs
system would control the evolution of btrfs, not Apple.

just my two cents...

/iaw


On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Edward Ned Harvey ker...@nedharvey.com wrote:
 From: linux-btrfs-ow...@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-btrfs-
 ow...@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of ivo welch

 curiosity question---could btrfs be licensed in multiple ways to allow
 Apple and other vendors to adopt it?

 No.  The source code is copyrighted by many different entities, and the only
 way to release it under any other license would require all of the
 contributors to mutually agree.  It'll never happen.  Likewise, perhaps
 Apple could release their code under a license that's compatible with GPL,
 but I seriously doubt that would ever happen.


 as end users, having one good
 file system that works everywhere as a main root system would be
 heaven...

 Agreed.  But the various producers of filesystems are generally commercial
 entities interested in making a profit.  For various reasons, many of them
 intentionally don't go this direction.  They're all trying to differentiate
 themselves.

 Generally speaking, the problem is the requirement to integrate some other
 FS into a kernel or other component that requires license compatibility for
 booting.  Generally speaking you can circumvent this problem by using things
 like Fuse to mount a filesystem in user space, thus not requiring it to be
 built into the kernel, thus eliminating any license compatibility problems.


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Re: licenses (for apple OSX and others)?

2011-08-14 Thread Billy Crook
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 19:34, ivo welch ivo...@gmail.com wrote:
 curiosity question---could btrfs be licensed in multiple ways to allow
 Apple and other vendors to adopt it?

Great question, Ivo.

And it turns out, btrfs is already licensed to permit commercial use,
integration into other products, and resale.

The license of btrfs isn't stopping Apple or Microsoft from using
btrfs.  All licenses have terms (You should read the terms on some of
Apple and Microsoft's software), but so long as they don't violate any
terms, they are welcome to use all parts of the btrfs code for their
corporation's profit, and their customer's benefit.
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Re: licenses (for apple OSX and others)?

2011-08-14 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Billy Crook billycr...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 19:34, ivo welch ivo...@gmail.com wrote:
 curiosity question---could btrfs be licensed in multiple ways to allow
 Apple and other vendors to adopt it?

 Great question, Ivo.

 And it turns out, btrfs is already licensed to permit commercial use,
 integration into other products, and resale.

 The license of btrfs isn't stopping Apple or Microsoft from using
 btrfs.  All licenses have terms (You should read the terms on some of
 Apple and Microsoft's software), but so long as they don't violate any
 terms, they are welcome to use all parts of the btrfs code for their
 corporation's profit, and their customer's benefit.

... and while some will certainly argue one way or another, this is a
case where (IMO) the code for btrfs (as a module) is clearly distinct
from the OSX kernel (as it was not even designed for it originally)
and would not constitute far reaching public release of Apple IP ...
though tbh i know nothing about OSX kernel and whether it support
things like dynamic modules, so i could be mistaken ...

... but im confident there is a way Apple could wire it up so IP
release could be very small or nonexistent.  or maintain a port if
they so wished.

the real question is whether or not they would even desire using it
with infrastructure around HFS+/etc ... in my observations Apple and
friends are incredibly ... ehm ... selective -- the hardware and
everything above it *must* have the `Seal of Approval` -- maybe to
reduce/isolate their problem pool or maintain it's clique-crazed
chic aura :-), i dont know, but it's not for the end-user's
flexibility -- that's for sure.  the glaring example to me is
virtually the entire mobile/handheld/device industry deciding on
micro-USB as the power+data xchange connection *except* one infamous
product line ...

but meh, who really knows anyway; it certainly would be incredibly
cool to have a common denominator greater than FAT, especially since
commodity flash chips are 8-16GB now.

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