Re: [linux-dvb] [patch] dvb_net hotplugging support

2007-08-17 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 8/17/07, Oliver Endriss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: Since this didn't get commented here, Trent did that patch already 2 months ago but it's not included yet. So I recommend to include his patch. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/543689 Acked-by:

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] add device node locking possibility to dvbcore

2007-08-17 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 8/17/07, Oliver Endriss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Toth wrote: Steven Toth wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: On 8/9/07, Steven Toth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: On 8/9/07, Steven Toth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-08-17 Thread Henk
There's also some responsibility by the users: Users should THINK before they buy unsupported devices. If possible buy devices that are supported by mainline. This is the only way we can convince manufactures to contribute to the Linux community. On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 01:09:19AM -0300, Daniel

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-08-17 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 8/17/07, Henk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's also some responsibility by the users: Users should THINK before they buy unsupported devices. If possible buy devices that are supported by mainline. This is the only way we can convince manufactures to contribute to the Linux community.

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-08-17 Thread Henk
The reason is that the linuxtv project depends on people who have their own ideas and do not care about other solutions or temporary solutions to get things done, pulling the drivers to userspace adds more flexibility for upcoming devices. Also it's possible to provide one tuner binary for

Re: [linux-dvb] System load raises when budget_av is loaded

2007-08-17 Thread e9hack
Oliver Endriss schrieb: Jukka Pirinen wrote: As workaround I commented out initialisation of CI interface, that's not a problem because I don't have CI. diff budget-av.c.orig budget-av.c 1175c1175 ciintf_init(budget_av); --- //ciintf_init(budget_av); Could you please try

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] function for checking if the dvb framework is idle

2007-08-17 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 8/17/07, Mauro Carvalho Chehab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allthough this patch is still in the queue of required patches. I would still like to see that one upstream since it would be required by a few drivers for checking if they're really idle. I agree with Obi, Mkrufky and

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] function for checking if the dvb framework is idle

2007-08-17 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Allthough this patch is still in the queue of required patches. I would still like to see that one upstream since it would be required by a few drivers for checking if they're really idle. I agree with Obi, Mkrufky and Christoph. It seems to be better to handle lock control inside your

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-08-17 Thread Steven Toth
If it was not by Markus' effort, I couldn't use my Xceive based board, so I support his initiative. And as far as I know, he's the only programmer working on this specific tuner. To sum up: there's no time to waste. Linux needs more code and less discussion. Code

Re: [linux-dvb] [patch] dvb_net hotplugging support

2007-08-17 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Em Ter, 2007-08-14 às 13:54 +0200, Markus Rechberger escreveu: Since this didn't get commented here, Trent did that patch already 2 months ago but it's not included yet. So I recommend to include his patch. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/543689 Acked-by: Markus Rechberger

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-08-17 Thread Mauro Carvalho Chehab
Binary releases? Not from myself or Hauppauge. Period. Mark my words, you will not see Hauppauge push binary junk at people just because we want Linux support. That's the kind of thing marketing people like to do and it has no respect within the community. Acked. Besides, who needs all

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-08-17 Thread CityK
Dâniel Fraga wrote: While the developers discuss these things, the users are waiting forever. You make it sound as if its a case of bureaucrats discussing policy before opening the bread line. And i think that if Linux really wants to support well most of the devices, something should be

Re: [linux-dvb] Informations/Problems about Asus P7131 Hybrid

2007-08-17 Thread Paolo Dell'Aquila
hermann pitton wrote: No need to upgrade, since you have already updated to recent v4l-dvb code. You might try the attached patch, which sets the other atenna input during digital usage and check if DVB-T reception is /unchanged/better/worse. I've tried your patch for 6/7 hours. It works

Re: [linux-dvb] New Revision of KNC1 DVB-S Plus 1894:0015

2007-08-17 Thread Johannes Deisenhofer
Oliver Endriss wrote: Johannes Deisenhofer wrote: Hi, I have a bunch of KNC1 DVB-S Plus Cards, with Subsystem ID 1894:0015. There are 'Plus' cards, with Phillips SD1878 Tuner and Analog Inputs. (Picture at http://www.vdr-wiki.de/wiki/index.php/Bild:Knc1splusx4.jpg) Is 'KNC1 DVB-S plus X4'

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-08-17 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 8/17/07, CityK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dâniel Fraga wrote: I've been exchanging e-mails with Markus for months and he supported very well my board (cx88 chip with xc2028 tuner). Yes, Markus is very good (exceptionally good in fact) with helping users. But at the same time,

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-08-17 Thread CityK
Dâniel Fraga wrote: I've been exchanging e-mails with Markus for months and he supported very well my board (cx88 chip with xc2028 tuner). Yes, Markus is very good (exceptionally good in fact) with helping users. But at the same time, I noticed that there's a disagreement

Re: [linux-dvb] [patch] dvb_net hotplugging support

2007-08-17 Thread Trent Piepho
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007, Oliver Endriss wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: Since this didn't get commented here, Trent did that patch already 2 months ago but it's not included yet. So I recommend to include his patch. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/543689 Acked-by: Markus

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] add device node locking possibility to dvbcore

2007-08-17 Thread Oliver Endriss
Markus Rechberger wrote: On 8/17/07, Oliver Endriss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Toth wrote: The ts_bus_ctrl function pointer / callback is already in the mainline, check dvb_frontend.c for more details. You shouldn't need a patch from me. ACK, should be enough to do this kind of

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-08-17 Thread Markus Rechberger
anyway it's history; we shouldn't waste more time on discussing what happened .. we could fill weeks by doing that. So to clear up some things: * regarding binary userspace drivers, if someone wants to write binary drivers he can do that already if he has enough knowledge and time, even without

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] add device node locking possibility to dvbcore

2007-08-17 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 8/17/07, Oliver Endriss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: On 8/17/07, Oliver Endriss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Toth wrote: The ts_bus_ctrl function pointer / callback is already in the mainline, check dvb_frontend.c for more details. You shouldn't need a

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] add device node locking possibility to dvbcore

2007-08-17 Thread Oliver Endriss
Markus Rechberger wrote: On 8/17/07, Oliver Endriss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: On 8/17/07, Oliver Endriss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Toth wrote: The ts_bus_ctrl function pointer / callback is already in the mainline, check dvb_frontend.c for more

Re: [linux-dvb] [patch] dvb_net hotplugging support

2007-08-17 Thread Oliver Endriss
Trent Piepho wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2007, Oliver Endriss wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: Since this didn't get commented here, Trent did that patch already 2 months ago but it's not included yet. So I recommend to include his patch.

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] add device node locking possibility to dvbcore

2007-08-17 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 8/17/07, Oliver Endriss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: On 8/17/07, Oliver Endriss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: On 8/17/07, Oliver Endriss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Toth wrote: The ts_bus_ctrl function pointer / callback is

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] add device node locking possibility to dvbcore

2007-08-17 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 8/17/07, Markus Rechberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/17/07, Oliver Endriss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: On 8/17/07, Oliver Endriss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: On 8/17/07, Oliver Endriss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Toth

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] add device node locking possibility to dvbcore

2007-08-17 Thread Andreas Oberritter
Hi Oliver, Oliver Endriss wrote: ts_bus_ctrl does a kind of reference counting. For readers: - fe-ops.ts_bus_ctrl(fe,1) is called during open - fe-ops.ts_bus_ctrl(fe,0) is called during close For the one and only writer: - fe-ops.ts_bus_ctrl(fe,1) is called during open -

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] add device node locking possibility to dvbcore

2007-08-17 Thread Markus Rechberger
On 8/17/07, Andreas Oberritter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Oliver, Oliver Endriss wrote: ts_bus_ctrl does a kind of reference counting. For readers: - fe-ops.ts_bus_ctrl(fe,1) is called during open - fe-ops.ts_bus_ctrl(fe,0) is called during close For the one and only writer: -

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-08-17 Thread Dâniel Fraga
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:29:41 +0200 Henk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's also some responsibility by the users: Users should THINK before they buy unsupported devices. If possible buy devices that are supported by mainline. This is the only way we can convince manufactures to contribute

Re: [linux-dvb] System load raises when budget_av is loaded

2007-08-17 Thread Oliver Endriss
e9hack wrote: Oliver Endriss schrieb: Jukka Pirinen wrote: As workaround I commented out initialisation of CI interface, that's not a problem because I don't have CI. diff budget-av.c.orig budget-av.c 1175c1175 ciintf_init(budget_av); --- //ciintf_init(budget_av);

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-08-17 Thread Dâniel Fraga
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:15:21 -0400 CityK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While supporting most devices is an admirable goal (and one which I certainly subscribe to) , what makes you think that pushing something through just for the sake of supporting it is the right course of action? Does Linux

Re: [linux-dvb] New Revision of KNC1 DVB-S Plus 1894:0015

2007-08-17 Thread Oliver Endriss
Johannes Deisenhofer wrote: Oliver Endriss wrote: Johannes Deisenhofer wrote: Hi, I have a bunch of KNC1 DVB-S Plus Cards, with Subsystem ID 1894:0015. There are 'Plus' cards, with Phillips SD1878 Tuner and Analog Inputs. (Picture at

Re: [linux-dvb] [patch] dvb_net hotplugging support

2007-08-17 Thread Trent Piepho
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007, Oliver Endriss wrote: Trent Piepho wrote: On Fri, 17 Aug 2007, Oliver Endriss wrote: Markus Rechberger wrote: Since this didn't get commented here, Trent did that patch already 2 months ago but it's not included yet. So I recommend to include his patch.

Re: [linux-dvb] System load raises when budget_av is loaded

2007-08-17 Thread e9hack
Oliver Endriss schrieb: Most of the debi requests are done with an spinlock held. None of the debiread/write accesses in budget-av uses locks, which is probably a bug. See the other thread. Your are right, but sometimes it is called with nobusyloop = 0. saa7146_wait_for_debi_done() is

Re: [linux-dvb] [PATCH] Userspace tuner

2007-08-17 Thread Tobias Stoeber
Hi, Dâniel Fraga schrieb: Well... if I was a developer, I would knew why I'm doing this. And I would accept the challenge (Man who plays golf in rain get wet balls). So, developing drivers isn't just write code, but to interact with users and see what's their problems. We, the users,

[linux-dvb] Linuxtv/video4linux discussion

2007-08-17 Thread Markus Rechberger
please stop hijacking the userspace tuner thread. I know pretty well what potential is behind a discussion I could spend weeks just with discussing things which are taken to serious here. As from my point I take things serious if there's no other way available _at the moment_ where a solution gets

[linux-dvb] [PATCH] Initial tuning data update for fi-*

2007-08-17 Thread Aapo Tahkola
Hi, This patch updates initial tuning data of all transmitters stated at http://www.digitv.fi/sivu.asp?path=1;8224;9519 . Some of this information is preliminary(marked with red and blue) and might be wrong as far as tuning parameters are concerned. As a side-effect, fi-Kaihuanvaara has been